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Kaku Ito December 27th, 2005 07:57 PM

It's coming today
 
I just got a call from ProVideo Station Shinjuku. It's in.
It's going to be delivered to me today.
I was the first one on the list.
But today is the last day for the year at my office.
I guess my shooting starts tonight.

Kaku Ito December 27th, 2005 08:11 PM

Evidently, the first batch had a software bug. PVSS had notified before they were coming to deliver to me, so they could do the update and bring it to me.
People who already brought them home, they have to bring them back to the shop to get updated.

Kaku Ito December 27th, 2005 08:23 PM

The condensor microphone was an option, so I had to add to the purchase.
The battery is the same as the ones for DVX series. I was recommended to buy the large capacity since I'm used to the battery characteristics with Sony Lithium ion that lasts longer than typical Panasonic rechargeable batteries.

PVSS does used sales, so I asked them to sell my FX1 and HC1 with wide conversion lenses and they told me that they will be sold over $3000 together. I'm using this money for part of the payment to purchase a HVX200.

Barlow Elton December 27th, 2005 09:04 PM

...waiting to exhale. ;-)

Go Kaku!!

Dean Sensui December 27th, 2005 09:16 PM

Kaku...

If there's a fireworks display in your area, that would be a good test comparison between HDV and the HVX200.

Kaku Ito December 27th, 2005 09:23 PM

Ah, Dean, that is Hawaiian (rather chinese) tradtion. We don't have that for the new year. Maybe at Disneyland Tokyo every night.
Dean, please help me with the quality control of my video. I want to provide as correct as possible to everyone. I will probably get together with Jemore who works close from my office and have him shoot video that might be better. But for my clips, please help.

Ash Greyson December 27th, 2005 09:59 PM

They shipped it with a software bug? Not a huge shock but a bummer... All the more reason to wait a while for some.... All hail to those on the bleeding edge though!



ash =o)

Kaku Ito December 27th, 2005 10:36 PM

Shipping within this year was little premature maybe.
FX1 had a bug and they let everyone know a lot later, causing some problems with people acutally shooting and found out (realizing later that audio format was probably what they didn't expect, 32Khz mode). Panasonic's move was quit I must say.
I guess that is the reason why they ship only limited numbers.

Jemore Santos December 28th, 2005 02:44 AM

kaku good idea ill bring my hd100
when are u available?

Jemore Santos December 28th, 2005 02:51 AM

its on Kaku, hd100 vs hvx 200
 
i smell a comparison challenge, my hd100 versus Kakus hvx200. give me ur keitai email and we'll hook up Kaku

James Darren December 28th, 2005 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Shipping within this year was little premature maybe....

I guess that is the reason why they ship only limited numbers.

Sorry Kaku, i'm a little confused. Do you actually have the camera now or did you return it straight away due to a problem?

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 09:17 AM

Now I got it several hours ago, but my musician friend came by and got reaaaaaaaally drunk. I put him in bed now and started writing here. I don't think I can go out tonight (can't leave a drunk with my wife alone haha).

I will try to learn the cam good tonight. Do initial test in the house and bring the files to Mac, so I can get good ideas to shoot in each mode better.

I would be on ichat for awhile if you want to talk to me.

Jemore, send me an email.

We can get together tomorrow? I'm off from tomorrow to the 3rd.

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Darren
Sorry Kaku, i'm a little confused. Do you actually have the camera now or did you return it straight away due to a problem?

It came in a lot later than we expected, but Panasonic tech went to the dealer and did the update at the shop, then the shop person broght it to me around 6:00pm. So I got the working version now.

Leigh Wanstead December 28th, 2005 12:26 PM

Hi Kaku,

Congratulations ;-)

Regards
Leigh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
It came in a lot later than we expected, but Panasonic tech went to the dealer and did the update at the shop, then the shop person broght it to me around 6:00pm. So I got the working version now.


Alex Melia December 28th, 2005 01:23 PM

Wow... I can't wait for some footage...

If I can ask I would prefer (as a PC user) 1080p WMV :D


thx in advance

PS: BTW, I am new... Hi to every1

Michael Pappas December 28th, 2005 02:02 PM

It's 5:00 am in Tokyo and Mr. Kaku is sound asleep with his HVX200. Somone call him and wake him up.. Time to film a sunrise......

Steven Thomas December 28th, 2005 02:33 PM

Kaku !


I'm really looking forward to seeing some footage and single frames.

Also, is it possible to shoot an image of the HVX and all of it's accessories it comes with?

Thanks again,

By the way, you're right, never leave a drunk with your wife ! :)
Steve

Jeff Kilgroe December 28th, 2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas
By the way, you're right, never leave a drunk with your wife ! :)

I agree with that as well... However, it could make for some interesting video. ;-)

Chris Hurd December 28th, 2005 03:58 PM

Hello Kaku,

You should be able to upload any video clips you want, to the same account at DV Info Net... same FTP address, same password as before. Let me know if you have any trouble. Thanks again,

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 06:06 PM

Good morning eveyone.

Ah, Michael, I just thought about that when I woke up, but it was 9:00am, darn.

I will do as much as I can. But the drunk is still sleeping in my studio.....

Michael Wisniewski December 28th, 2005 06:12 PM

Well how about filming a drunk-rise? ... ok sorry, we sound like little kids on Christmas.

Dean Sensui December 28th, 2005 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Ah, Dean, that is Hawaiian (rather chinese) tradtion. We don't have that for the new year. Maybe at Disneyland Tokyo every night.
Dean, please help me with the quality control of my video. I want to provide as correct as possible to everyone. I will probably get together with Jemore who works close from my office and have him shoot video that might be better. But for my clips, please help.

Hi Kaku...

I'd be glad to help out.

Let me know what you need and I can see what I can do. Do you have an FTP site I can download the material from?

Michael Pappas December 28th, 2005 06:35 PM

Good Morning Kaku!

Looking forward to your footage. We have been saying for weeks, Kaku will be the first again with footage!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Good morning eveyone.

Ah, Michael, I just thought about that when I woke up, but it was 9:00am, darn.

I will do as much as I can. But the drunk is still sleeping in my studio.....


Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 06:45 PM

I haven't shot anything worth yet, but when I bring in the clips to FCP5 on G5 via Firewire, swithcing to the firewire mode is to press the "mode" button once (to switch to "MCR•VTR") then press/hold the mode button again for a coupld of seconds, so it turns to "PC•DUB". I thought this way is better than some HDV cams that have to toggle the cam/off/video switch .

Working with FCP5 was easy, do that switching above, connect the firewire to Mac, that will automatically mount "unname" volumes (because I have two P2 cards), boot up FCP5 and select "Panasonic P2..." in the import menu.

FCP5 will show a window with contents of the P2 card in vertical list with names, thumbnail, start time and end time. You can select one or multiple, or "all" to bring in to the FCP5's bin.

This is what I see so far.

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Sensui
Hi Kaku...

I'd be glad to help out.

Let me know what you need and I can see what I can do. Do you have an FTP site I can download the material from?

Files are going to be here as Chris is talking about above.

I might call you on international phone while I shoot to make sure some technical stuff. hahaha. I may need your phone number, can you send me an email?

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 06:51 PM

Chris,

What way should I upload the files? Because on Mac's desktop, the P2 card shows multiple folders that contains "audio", "clip", "video" and others with .MXF files. If I bring in to FCP5, they won't be raw clips?

What do you think Michael?

Steven Thomas December 28th, 2005 06:54 PM

Kaku,

How does the footage look? Is it sharp and clean?

Man, I feel like a kid !

Thanks, Steve

Michael Pappas December 28th, 2005 06:59 PM

Kaku do you have FCP 5.0.4?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Chris,

What way should I upload the files? Because on Mac's desktop, the P2 card shows multiple folders that contains "audio", "clip", "video" and others with .MXF files. If I bring in to FCP5, they won't be raw clips?

What do you think Michael?


Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 07:05 PM

Steven,

Probably not sharp as H1 nor Sony HDV with static shot.

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Pappas
Kaku do you have FCP 5.0.4?

Yep, I made a clip using export with not conversion (self content). But it would be QT. Many people would complain that way.

Antoine Fabi December 28th, 2005 07:43 PM

Kaku,

How is the noise level at 0 db compared to the XLH1 and Z1 ?

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 07:44 PM

Now, I'm leaving to shoot some, I will be back not too long. Downloading files from P2 to iPod worked, so for now, I wil travel light, HVX200 and iPod (One generation back) instead of taking my PowerBook G4 12inch.

Kaku Ito December 28th, 2005 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antoine Fabi
Kaku,

How is the noise level at 0 db compared to the XLH1 and Z1 ?

I didn't have Z1 (had FX1), but XLH1's night clip I have shows amazing low noise level, so can't compared to that I think. I do see noises in dark shooting.

Shannon Rawls December 28th, 2005 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
XLH1's night clip I have shows amazing low noise level.

I hope the HVX-200 low light noise performance is as good as it is on the XL-H1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Downloading files from P2 to iPod worked, so for now, I wil travel light.

That is EXCELLENT news Kaku. Did it take long to transfer the files? Maybe I can have the AC transfer files to a couple of iPods if we have time in-between takes. That might be easier then buying & bringing a PowerBook and hiring a PA to do it. iPods are crazy inexpensive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Probably not sharp as H1 nor Sony HDV with static shot.

Really?? I can see the XL-H1 being sharper & cleaner then the HVX200, but you think the Sony is also?

Either way....take your time Kaku. Have Fun & let us know what you think.

- ShannonRawls.com

Jemore Santos December 28th, 2005 08:10 PM

Kaku whats your email addy? better yet get me on this addy, jemore@sakproductions.net
I'll be snowboarding for the next day or 2 so how about we meet up then, are you super busy this holidays?

Michael Pappas December 28th, 2005 10:25 PM

That's the way to do it Kaku! On the phone with Barlow he agrees with this as well. They end up as ( .mov ) files just like the ones we posted....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Yep, I made a clip using export with not conversion (self content). But it would be QT. Many people would complain that way.


Barry Green December 28th, 2005 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Downloading files from P2 to iPod worked

Hey Kaku, is your ipod still an ipod? Or did you have to format the entire drive?

I'm working with a preproduction version (don't have a serial-numbered unit like you do) and on the preproduction version at least, it requires you to format the external drive, which wipes out everything on the drive (which means it would erase the ipod operating system, etc). Did you have to do that?

Michael Pappas December 28th, 2005 11:44 PM

Barry do you need a certain ipod model for this to work?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Green
Hey Kaku, is your ipod still an ipod? Or did you have to format the entire drive?

I'm working with a preproduction version (don't have a serial-numbered unit like you do) and on the preproduction version at least, it requires you to format the external drive, which wipes out everything on the drive (which means it would erase the ipod operating system, etc). Did you have to do that?


Barry Green December 29th, 2005 01:20 AM

From what I have been experimenting with, *no* ipod should work -- the HVX would format its drive, thus rendering it no longer an ipod. That's why I'm curious as to what Kaku did, because if he just formatted the drive totally then it makes sense, but if he was somehow able to use it without formatting the drive in the ipod, then that's a new capability that my prerelease camera doesn't have, so I'm most curious about it.

Kaku Ito December 29th, 2005 01:34 AM

I'm back for the daylight session...
 
Barry is correct, I had to format my iPod. But it worked really nice. It takes about 10 minutes or so (I will be more precise on this later) to copy both P2 4GB cards. My iPod wasn't fully charged, so the battery ran out doing the two cards downloading twice (that means 16GB downloading), but thanks to iPod being really poplular among young people, the bikeshop that I was shooting video at had a cradle to charge! How about that!

I'm going to select some files to upload. They consist of fast urban BMX tricks with 720/60p and 1080i, and some static product shots with 1080/24p.

ADDED INFO.
The time took for one 4GB P2 card to iPod connected by firewire was 5min.50sec..
It is 60GB iPod, so I can feel confortable with enough storage space, but it seems I might run out of iPod battery and won't be able to use full 55.6GB (formatted).


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