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Guest December 29th, 2005 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shannon Rawls
Huh? awww man, it's all good, chillout big pimpin'. I was just tryna understand what you were saying. I didn't detect you saying anything negative my man.

I'm a PC dude, so I don't know much about the FCP workflow. Everyting is good for PC users and 24p from the XL-H1.

- ShannonRawls.com

- Sounds Good

Shannon Rawls December 29th, 2005 09:51 PM

Kaku,

Did your cellphone survive that blow?
it was a cool shot.

- ShannonRawls.com

Michael Pappas December 29th, 2005 09:56 PM

Hey Marc thanks for sharing your space.

Why isn't Chris Hurd hosting these files anyways? Or is he also?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Olivier Chouinard
People have to understand that hosting big file is costly. http://hvx200.moctel.com costed me 50$ just for 10hours of operation. That is over 1500$ per month.

I will have to discontinue this, or make a pay per transfered done. No one will host those huge file for free, and if it cost 50cent per gig of transfer, I wont have any problem pay for a few buck for having highdef, uncompress video.

What about 5$ minus paypal fees (50cent I think). Then 50cent per gig, so 9gig of transfer. I'll cover the user upload cost (ofcouse, since I too want to beable to access it fast too...).

If anyone know of other way to get $ out of this so we lower the cost, Im open for sugestion.


Robert Graf December 29th, 2005 09:58 PM

Chris posted them a bit ago:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=57068

Man, this thread is moving quickly! ;) My gmail indicator keeps beeping like mad!

Chris Hurd December 29th, 2005 10:10 PM

Read the thread... I just got in (to Dallas that is) from the road... will be home tomorrow night.

Kaku Ito December 29th, 2005 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shannon Rawls
Kaku,

Did your cellphone survive that blow?
it was a cool shot.

- ShannonRawls.com

The rider is yugo, I'm on the cam. But he happens to be Ito, too. Hahaha.

Actually, he damage the phone on the second clip first, you see him crash on his butt that is when he ripped his rear pocket. The phone did go off, but it turned on okay that time. Then the whip clip, the cellphone slipped off from the ripped pocket like magic ane he ended up hitting it with his chainstay while he was giving a hip trick!!! What a magic. It all happened without any plan, and I was shooting with 60p so it captured with the level of presiceness. This is a beautiful story.

His cellphone survived, the cover and the battery scattered but not cracked.

Kaku Ito December 29th, 2005 10:34 PM

Use the "Search this thread" feature and you can search the word "Kakgyo HVX200 Clip" to display only the posts with clips.

Kakugyo HVX200 Clip #4 Static Shot of Vehicle passing by 24 version

So far, only workable with MacOS.

It's the static footage with cars passing by horizantally, while the cam is placed on a tripod. I have similar footage with other cams at my site and some here at HDVinfo.net.

This is shot with 1080/24p with cinelike gamma, Auto Iris.
QuickTime DVCPRO HD codec
File size:97.8MB ziped

Video by Kaku Ito/CreativeSuite
Special Thanks to Provideo-Station Shinjuku

Chris Hurd December 29th, 2005 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Use the "Search this thread" feature and you can search the word "Kakgyo HVX200 Clip" to display only the posts with clips.

Actually I gathered all of the clips together and posted them in a new thread here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=57068

Kaku Ito December 29th, 2005 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd
Actually I gathered all of the clips together and posted them in a new thread here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=57068


Yes, I know, but I need to do this so people have better ideas which clip is what. They are all big files and I want to provide better explaining than just a list of links. Can you make a note about this in the link post?

This is important because the riders need credits.

Chris Hurd December 29th, 2005 10:46 PM

Oh yes, I see... I'll edit that post as soon as I can (when I'm back home, tomorrow night) to include all of that information. Thanks again Kaku,

Justyn Rowe December 29th, 2005 11:46 PM

Thanks for the efforts.
 
Great video. Glad there is such a resource and to view some trials riding. I shot a bunch of trials riding with Doug White for a project that went bust so we put it up online. it's at www.xsportstv.com and it's under the video button.

I appreciate the great footage and look forward to participating in the artistic liberation.


Thanks


Justyn

Marc Olivier Chouinard December 30th, 2005 12:27 AM

I couldnt track all the credits for all the clips, if you can send me the one over Im missing, I'll be sure to add them up. You are right, it is important.

http://hvx200.moctel.com/production/....xtream.ne.jp/

I wont show the link of my server after this. Let home the few who remember it will have happy fast access to as much hvx200 I can hold... Will be up for atless until I get my camera or too many user use it ;) Chris got fast connection, so I'll ask user to go there first for the files.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Yes, I know, but I need to do this so people have better ideas which clip is what. They are all big files and I want to provide better explaining than just a list of links. Can you make a note about this in the link post?

This is important because the riders need credits.


Kaku Ito December 30th, 2005 12:39 AM

Marc,

Thanks and it is good enough for now. All of the credit will be notified here, so that should be good. I would also do special edits for these so they will be happy. As far as the main location to provide clips, we should do everything correct. Your effort is much appreciated.

Obin Olson December 30th, 2005 10:05 AM

PC solutions yet?

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 04:11 AM

Use the "Search this thread" feature and you can search the word "Kakgyo HVX200 Clip" to display only the posts with clips.

[url=http://www.hdvinfo.net/media/kakugyo/HVXbamboo108024p.zip]Kakugyo HVX200 Clip #5 Bamboo trees wuthering 24 version[/rul]

So far, only workable with MacOS.

It's the static footage with cars passing by horizantally, while the cam is placed on a tripod. I have similar footage with other cams at my site and some here at HDVinfo.net.

This is shot with 1080/24p with cinelike gamma, Auto Iris.
QuickTime DVCPRO HD codec
File size:97.8MB ziped

Video by Kaku Ito/CreativeSuite
Special Thanks to Provideo-Station Shinjuku

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 04:22 AM

Use the "Search this thread" feature and you can search the word "Kakgyo HVX200 Clip" to display only the posts with clips.

[url=http://www.hdvinfo.net/media/kakugyo/HVXbamboo108024p.zip]Kakugyo HVX200 Clip #5 Bamboo trees wuthering 24 version[/rul]

So far, only workable with MacOS.

The same bamboo trees wuthering from the winds as FX1, HC1 footage I had provided before. The hour is ealier so this clip with HVX200 is a lot brighter.

This is shot with 1080/24p with cinelike gamma, Auto Iris.
QuickTime DVCPRO HD codec
File size:160.4MB ziped

Video by Kaku Ito/CreativeSuite
Special Thanks to Provideo-Station Shinjuku

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 04:23 AM

HVXbamboo108024p.zip
 
Use the "Search this thread" feature and you can search the word "Kakgyo HVX200 Clip" to display only the posts with clips.

Kakugyo HVX200 Clip #5 Bamboo trees wuthering 24 version

So far, only workable with MacOS.

The same bamboo trees wuthering from the winds as FX1, HC1 footage I had provided before. The hour is ealier so this clip with HVX200 is a lot brighter.

This is shot with 1080/24p with cinelike gamma, Auto Iris.
QuickTime DVCPRO HD codec
File size:160.4MB ziped

Video by Kaku Ito/CreativeSuite
Special Thanks to Provideo-Station Shinjuku

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 04:27 AM

oops
 
Chris, I made some mess above. Please ommit the first two.

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 04:59 AM

I'm going to continue the posting at xtream.ne.jp for now. It is too much process to put them here and make necessary credit writings and links.

Chris, we maybe transfer the files after some people make recommendation at my site, and post them here. What do you think?

Michael Pappas January 1st, 2006 06:58 AM

Got it, thanks Kaku.... :-)

Chris, can you delete this now. I used it to contact Kaku about his web site. Thanks

Craig Seeman January 1st, 2006 09:39 AM

Michael,

I had same registration problem. In my case it seemed my password was too short. It seems it must be 6 characters.

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman
Michael,

I had same registration problem. In my case it seemed my password was too short. It seems it must be 6 characters.

Ah, that is not described in English, I would add that soon.
Thanks Craig.

I'm adding one clip right now with one kid playing around with his new mini lite-saber with his dad in front of Kiddyland in Harajuku. Somewhat dark.

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 11:33 AM

many night time clips are added at xtream.ne.jp. Chirs, if you like them, you can transfer them to your ftp.

Lee Faulkner January 1st, 2006 01:22 PM

Thanks for the footage Kaku...

Downloaded it here... unzipped it and straight into FCP5 on my 15"G4 powerbook and playback perfect.

It's eyeopening for me to see the clarity in the Cinema Desktop mode... all off a standard internal drive!

I think the curtains are being rised on something big!

Lee

Marc Olivier Chouinard January 1st, 2006 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
many night time clips are added at xtream.ne.jp. Chirs, if you like them, you can transfer them to your ftp.

Great, see you put the descriptions for the other clips too, Im mirroring all that.
I can't wait to beable to play them out on my PC lol ;)

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 10:51 PM

yeah, it's a lot of work. My eyes are killing me since my eyes are suffering from presbyopia and on top of that, I had a tiny metal piece poke my left eyeball few months ago and made it really worse.

Anyhow, I posted a lot more ay my site including various DVCPRO50 formats.

Marc, will the donation give you enough to cover the expenses? Please let me know because I want to know for the future references. My company's server is holding up since I set it through registration scheme to control the traffic.

Lee,
I'm glad that it is working for you.

Jim Arthurs January 1st, 2006 11:24 PM

Kaku, thanks for all your work!

I had a little 3D tracking fun with a section of one of your biking clips over at dvxuser and though you might like to see it, here's the thread...

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=42411

Or, a direct link to the QT I made (8megs)...

http://ftp.datausa.com/imageshoppe/o..._vrs_ROBOT.mov

The HVX provides a MUCH better source for tracking than the Z1... less barrel distortion on the wide angle range of the lens, and the DVCPRO codec beats HDV hands down in frame to frame tracking.

Regards,

Jim Arthurs

Chris Hurd January 1st, 2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
my eyes are suffering from presbyopia

Ack. This is my new nemesis as well. I really hate presbyopia. Not only is it incredibly annoying, it also means that I am not a young man anymore, not by a long shot.

Guest January 1st, 2006 11:29 PM

That's nice Jim! If I did not know it from your post I would have thought it was real. I would have thought it was some sort of movie prop in the middle of the street to promote one of the latest releases or something like that.

Kaku Ito January 1st, 2006 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Arthurs
Kaku, thanks for all your work!

I had a little 3D tracking fun with a section of one of your biking clips over at dvxuser and though you might like to see it, here's the thread...

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=42411

Or, a direct link to the QT I made (8megs)...

http://ftp.datausa.com/imageshoppe/o..._vrs_ROBOT.mov

The HVX provides a MUCH better source for tracking than the Z1... less barrel distortion on the wide angle range of the lens, and the DVCPRO codec beats HDV hands down in frame to frame tracking.

Regards,

Jim Arthurs


Ah, Jim, it's you, I saw your post not wanting to watch me doing the figure 8 in front of my office. That concept is to do the comparisons between the cam and it was the easiest way to get help from my wife to show people something so please understand the situation. My wife is always being alone living here in Japan, not being able to get around by herself because she does not have confidence going around by herself, and often she feels sick getting out but by having her shooting cams with me give her things to do. I'm putting our lives, work, interests, education and my leasure time all together to do this, so I hope you understand my situation. Yes, I'm lucky in the way that I was able to establish what I like to do for living, but it took more than 17 years to do that. I have short comming in my shooting technics but I have access to many things to provide infos and evidences to broadcast. I even hesitated to do this because of your post, but ample of people here encouraged me that they can still figure out the quality of camera even with my limited ability of shooting video. So, I hope I served you better this time and thank you very much for using my clips to do your testing :). That is great. I loved what you did with it!

Jipsi Kinnear January 1st, 2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd
Ack. This is my new nemesis as well. I really hate presbyopia. Not only is it incredibly annoying, it also means that I am not a young man anymore, not by a long shot.


Sadly I'm in the same boat. Nothing like a little blurry vision to remind one that we're not immortal.

PS: Kaku, thanks for all your work over the past several days in regards to the HVX and thanks to everybody else who posted. I'm a "production" person in film not a techie, without all the mostly unbiased info here on dv info net, I would still feel like a little fish drowning in a big techie sea.

Happy New Year's to all out there...on planet earth and beyond.

Jipsi K.

Jim Arthurs January 2nd, 2006 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Ah, Jim, it's you, I saw your post not wanting to watch me doing the figure 8 in front of my office.

Thanks Kaku... that post months ago on dvxuser was done more in frustration, fearing that Panasonic wouldn't first make available pro clips of the HVX in a polished production similar to what Canon did with "The Watchmaker" and is not a reflection on your work.

You have provided a set of first eyes on these cameras, and invaluable help for others trying to make decisions. I'm pretty sure you're at least half responsible for me getting the Z1 based off of the quality of your bike clips, and now with the HVX you're reassuring my mind on this purchase decision as well.

Thanks again, and I hope you keep doing what you do with each new camera that comes out. Taking the time to share your experiences is valuable to many. The video you provided from the expo with hands on the HVX was very helpful as well! I must have watched it four or five times.

With regards,

Jim Arthurs

Michael Pappas January 2nd, 2006 01:00 AM

Nice work Jim. What 3d sw? I use EIAS and Silo!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Arthurs
Kaku, thanks for all your work!

I had a little 3D tracking fun with a section of one of your biking clips over at dvxuser and though you might like to see it, here's the thread...

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=42411

Or, a direct link to the QT I made (8megs)...

http://ftp.datausa.com/imageshoppe/o..._vrs_ROBOT.mov

The HVX provides a MUCH better source for tracking than the Z1... less barrel distortion on the wide angle range of the lens, and the DVCPRO codec beats HDV hands down in frame to frame tracking.

Regards,

Jim Arthurs


Michael Pappas January 2nd, 2006 01:01 AM

Nice work Jim. What 3d sw did you use? I use EIAS and Silo!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Arthurs
Kaku, thanks for all your work!

I had a little 3D tracking fun with a section of one of your biking clips over at dvxuser and though you might like to see it, here's the thread...

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=42411

Or, a direct link to the QT I made (8megs)...

http://ftp.datausa.com/imageshoppe/o..._vrs_ROBOT.mov

The HVX provides a MUCH better source for tracking than the Z1... less barrel distortion on the wide angle range of the lens, and the DVCPRO codec beats HDV hands down in frame to frame tracking.

Regards,

Jim Arthurs


Jim Arthurs January 2nd, 2006 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Pappas
Nice work Jim. What 3d sw did you use? I use EIAS and Silo!

Thanks Michael... I used Icarus (now called PFTrack) and Lightwave with a stock model to do the 3D... radiosity rendered with a plugin called FPrime. Composited in After Effects. Took a couple hours from start to finish, with only about 40 minutes to render the element at 960 by 720.

Originally I was just going to try the raw track and lay down a simple grid, then the track turned out nice and I started adding stuff...

I hear good things about Silo.

The HVX is gonna be a huge boon for a personal HD camera... can't wait to try a greenscreen shot!

Jim Arthurs

Kaku Ito January 2nd, 2006 01:32 AM

Ah, Jim,

I happened to have the reflecmedia with green light here. Hehe.

What should we shoot for this collaboration?

Marc Olivier Chouinard January 2nd, 2006 07:43 AM

Donation slowed down my lost alittle, it help to keep it up. Cost is 92 $ so far, total donation is 16$. It not much but I apreciate alot people who did contribute. There is less traffic also, that helping rightnow. It started with 150gig/day. That mean 11 donation per day of 4$ would have been needed to cover the cost. Paypal also take 42cent per transaction !!!

Im still thinking of a $ subscription based system, so people pay for their traffic, so I'll be sure not to lose anything.

Im mirroring those new files again ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
yeah, it's a lot of work. My eyes are killing me since my eyes are suffering from presbyopia and on top of that, I had a tiny metal piece poke my left eyeball few months ago and made it really worse.

Anyhow, I posted a lot more ay my site including various DVCPRO50 formats.

Marc, will the donation give you enough to cover the expenses? Please let me know because I want to know for the future references. My company's server is holding up since I set it through registration scheme to control the traffic.

Lee,
I'm glad that it is working for you.


Jim Arthurs January 2nd, 2006 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito
Ah, Jim,

I happened to have the reflecmedia with green light here. Hehe.

What should we shoot for this collaboration?

That is right, I forgot about your rig! I remember it from your FX1 testing. You could always get the singer back, and tell her it's for a good cause! :)

Seriously, anything is fine as a subject, just turn the camera detail down to, say, -5 as Barry Green suggests. And no hurry, we've got lots to look at thanks to you.

Jim Arthurs

Kaku Ito January 3rd, 2006 04:37 AM

Jim,

I will do something tomorrow, I hope.

Our reflecmedia is with 2m x 2m chromatte, so can't do anything large (especially the video being 16x9), so it will be bust and up.
Why don't I shoot someone on one side of the screen, and you can put the back ground and a CG cast on the other side?

......to do this, I should start a new thread. Please respond to the new thread for this particular collaboration.

Kaku Ito January 4th, 2006 08:04 AM

I posted a comparison zip file with 0 gain and +12db at my site (this is FCP files).


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