Show Your Work 2007

Brooks Harrington · August 28th, 2007, 08:52 PM

Good stuff there. Cut the music, and get down to the story, following a couple of guys through daily life and what happens to them.

If you show a gun, someones going to get shot!

Andrae Palmer · August 28th, 2007, 08:56 PM

Our short film Retribution made it into the semifinals of iFC's Assassin's Creed Contest. View it online and vote for us.

View it here: http://medialab.ifc.com/film_detail....id=5599&list=1

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Tunde Anjorin · August 28th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Just watched your short....cool, very cool! Great cinematography, acting, and directing. Good luck!!!!!!

Alessandro Machi · August 29th, 2007, 12:10 AM

I posted my comments on YouTube but basically you should consider doing a high quality film transfer of your film original and then lay over the new transfer clips over the existing clips on your time line.

Suddenly you have a slick looking film demo that will stand apart versus doing the original shooting on DV.

Walter McElroy, Jr. · August 29th, 2007, 09:50 AM

Thanks for you insight Justin and Alessandro!

I totally agree with you Alessandro about the xfer method. I was dissapointed myself with the degradation in quality. I was thinking about sending my original footage to a lab for a transfer then re-editing it, but I think I will move on to another project. It was my first time shooting on film and our teacher suggested we xfer this way. It saved time and money but doesn't look as good as it could of. Thanks for viewing my film though I appreciate it!

Alessandro Machi · August 29th, 2007, 10:05 AM

That's one of the problems with the way film is taught. To keep the costs down, shortcuts are taken, which can be a good thing, but...

But then someone actually shoots a film with excellent exposures and they don't take their film to the next level and just make it look nice. I read in the credits that you shot Plus-X black and white.

Super-8 Plus-X black and white looks so good these days that it can pass for 90's 16mm, it's definitely broadcast quality as well. I believe that whenever one does a project that exhibits some level of skills it should be used as a demo piece for future job opportunities. Right now your film may miss the mark because of how it was transferred, and that seems like a waste.

However, I understand your desire to move on and do more. I don't know how much footage you shot but assuming you shot 5 or 6 Super-8 film cartridges you are probably looking at around 175 - 325 dollars for an amazing quality transfer.

Then all you would do is go into your NLE time line and replace the existing shots with the newly transfered version. It is a form of education to see what you orginally did and then see how much better it became after the new transfer.

One final advantage to retransferring your footage is you learn about the film transfer side of filmmaking at a relatively low cost and then that knowledge base will help you in the future should you shoot on film again.

Walter J Walsh · August 29th, 2007, 10:45 AM

Wow that was great. I agree with Tunde great cinematography, acting, and directing.

Steven Bills · August 29th, 2007, 05:45 PM

Alrighty folks, I think that it's about time to let you guys have a sneak peek into our current production, LETHAL ENGAGEMENT.

A little bit about the film: It's meant to be like the visual style of the Bourne movies. A man without a past must fight through a haze of forgetfulness and politics to save the one he loves, and to remember who and what he was. It will be released as four parts, or acts, and each act will be download-able from the site, in both HD and SD versions. More to come about that.

I'm not going to say any more than that, you'll just have to see it when they come out.

Attached is the promo pic for Act III

Alright. On to the previews. (Note: My FTP service is being weird and not letting me upload anything, so I opted for yousendit)

ACT II Preview in HD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...7467C4058E1550

ACT II Preview in SD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...0028B449777C1F

ACT III Preview in HD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...998E5152399080

ACT III Preview in SD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...D861341C2E7438

Remember, these are just previews, and may not be how they will be in the final film. Teasers, if you will.

I will use this thread to post updates and eventually the final film.

Comments welcome.

Steven Bills

Bert Smyth · August 29th, 2007, 05:51 PM

Ryan, there is a great potential for a story with what you're doing, but I agree with what the other guys are saying, its not really revealed yet. I realize this is just a trailer, but make sure your "doc" isn't just a bunch of thugs & gang bangers talking smack. You need to show the background of your subjects. I get the feeling you also need to identify your position on what you're seeing and filming... is it cool? tragic? hip? scary? pathetic? All docs are biased in the sense that the filmmaker chooses to tell a story, which is yours? I hope this isn't sounding harsh, because I think you're on the right track and have real potential.

Those kids, next time, get the camera down at their level, at least that's what I would do.

Ryan, be careful. Guys pulling out guns with silencer's on them, man, that is bad bad bad. Remember that people who are just "covering the story" get killed all the time. I would also consult a lawyer before you go any further. I'm pretty sure that taping illegal activity like that and just saying "hey, I'm just a filmmaker" can get you into trouble. I know its caused problems for people taping illegal car racing. In any event, being around guys with guns like that is not a good idea. Possibly a really great doc in the works, but proceed with caution! Cudos though for having the guts to get out there and shoot that. Didn't it freak you out a little?

Tim Bickford · August 30th, 2007, 09:09 PM

That was funny as hell. Very nice!

Alex Sprinkle · August 30th, 2007, 11:58 PM

Dude, I love your stuff. I still sing, "I ain't got much of a smile" all the time throughout the day.

Douglas R. Bruce · August 31st, 2007, 08:31 AM

Been a while since I added any new videos to my site.

I just finsihed this one on a very mundane topic - Rice.

It is at the bottom of the list on the following page:

http://www.gaijin-eyes.com/03gallery/0301afh.htm

Hope it interests some of you....

Regards,
Douglas

Brian Posslenzny · August 31st, 2007, 10:56 AM

Thanks for the comments. We're shooting with the JVC HD100 with the Brevis 35mm adapter.

The car crash was a lot easier than we thought. We got both for free, because the director's brother works with cars and has contacts. One car was just going to be scrapped, so we could destroy it (we couldn't touch the other one). The car guys brought their tow trucks, and used it to tip the one car over.

Our crew was minimal. We had a director, DP, gaffer, and about 3 grips. One guy did sound, and then we had someone doing stills.
Thanks for looking!

Chris Barcellos · August 31st, 2007, 11:03 AM

Brian:

I watched the film when you first posted too. Sorry didn't get a chance to comment. You used your contacts well...accident scenes was very convincing. And actress was great !

So when you are shooting with Brevis, it appears from most of shots that you have the prime lens stopped down pretty good. Seems to be around F5.6 to F8. Are you having to fight vignetting issues at all ?

Michael Rapadas · August 31st, 2007, 12:04 PM

My school has a new school-wide prayer. We wanted to promote it through entertainment media before we taught it to other students. As a senior, I'm in a leadership group that promotes ministry in music and other arts. I directed and edited the promo.

HVX200 w/ redrock
Homedepot lights

Any questions or comments welcome. Thanks guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHV5zsTU1co

Better Quality:
http://www.siprep.org/examen/examen.mp4

August 28th, 2007, 08:56 PM	#842
Andrae Palmer Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Posts: 59	Our film RETRIBUTION made the semifinals in iFC's Assassin's Creed contest Our short film Retribution made it into the semifinals of iFC's Assassin's Creed Contest. View it online and vote for us. View it here: http://medialab.ifc.com/film_detail....id=5599&list=1 http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1216/...816af849bd.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1105/...822623a9c6.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1379/...0363e99a8e.jpg __________________ Andrae Palmer Creative Director http://www.facetmedia.com/ Facet Media LLC

August 29th, 2007, 12:10 AM	#844
Alessandro Machi Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 553	You did a terrific job getting such good exposures.. I posted my comments on YouTube but basically you should consider doing a high quality film transfer of your film original and then lay over the new transfer clips over the existing clips on your time line. Suddenly you have a slick looking film demo that will stand apart versus doing the original shooting on DV. __________________ https://alexlogic.blogspot.com/ Los Angeles Emmy Winner (yes, used a video edit controller and loved doing so.)

August 29th, 2007, 10:05 AM	#846
Alessandro Machi Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 553	That's one of the problems with the way film is taught. To keep the costs down, shortcuts are taken, which can be a good thing, but... But then someone actually shoots a film with excellent exposures and they don't take their film to the next level and just make it look nice. I read in the credits that you shot Plus-X black and white. Super-8 Plus-X black and white looks so good these days that it can pass for 90's 16mm, it's definitely broadcast quality as well. I believe that whenever one does a project that exhibits some level of skills it should be used as a demo piece for future job opportunities. Right now your film may miss the mark because of how it was transferred, and that seems like a waste. However, I understand your desire to move on and do more. I don't know how much footage you shot but assuming you shot 5 or 6 Super-8 film cartridges you are probably looking at around 175 - 325 dollars for an amazing quality transfer. Then all you would do is go into your NLE time line and replace the existing shots with the newly transfered version. It is a form of education to see what you orginally did and then see how much better it became after the new transfer. One final advantage to retransferring your footage is you learn about the film transfer side of filmmaking at a relatively low cost and then that knowledge base will help you in the future should you shoot on film again. __________________ https://alexlogic.blogspot.com/ Los Angeles Emmy Winner (yes, used a video edit controller and loved doing so.)

August 29th, 2007, 05:45 PM	#848
Steven Bills Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vineyard, Utah Posts: 192	Lethal Engagement Previews Alrighty folks, I think that it's about time to let you guys have a sneak peek into our current production, LETHAL ENGAGEMENT. A little bit about the film: It's meant to be like the visual style of the Bourne movies. A man without a past must fight through a haze of forgetfulness and politics to save the one he loves, and to remember who and what he was. It will be released as four parts, or acts, and each act will be download-able from the site, in both HD and SD versions. More to come about that. I'm not going to say any more than that, you'll just have to see it when they come out. Attached is the promo pic for Act III Alright. On to the previews. (Note: My FTP service is being weird and not letting me upload anything, so I opted for yousendit) ACT II Preview in HD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...7467C4058E1550 ACT II Preview in SD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...0028B449777C1F ACT III Preview in HD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...998E5152399080 ACT III Preview in SD: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...D861341C2E7438 Remember, these are just previews, and may not be how they will be in the final film. Teasers, if you will. I will use this thread to post updates and eventually the final film. Comments welcome. Steven Bills Attached Thumbnails

August 30th, 2007, 09:09 PM	#850
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	That was funny as hell. Very nice! __________________ Tim Bickford

August 28th, 2007, 08:52 PM	#841
Brooks Harrington Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 152	Good stuff there. Cut the music, and get down to the story, following a couple of guys through daily life and what happens to them. If you show a gun, someones going to get shot!

August 28th, 2007, 10:33 PM	#843
Tunde Anjorin Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: atlanta ga Posts: 52	Just watched your short....cool, very cool! Great cinematography, acting, and directing. Good luck!!!!!!

August 29th, 2007, 09:50 AM	#845
Walter McElroy, Jr. Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Posts: 32	Thanks for you insight Justin and Alessandro! I totally agree with you Alessandro about the xfer method. I was dissapointed myself with the degradation in quality. I was thinking about sending my original footage to a lab for a transfer then re-editing it, but I think I will move on to another project. It was my first time shooting on film and our teacher suggested we xfer this way. It saved time and money but doesn't look as good as it could of. Thanks for viewing my film though I appreciate it!

August 29th, 2007, 10:45 AM	#847
Walter J Walsh Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Frankfort, IL Posts: 28	Wow that was great. I agree with Tunde great cinematography, acting, and directing.

August 29th, 2007, 05:51 PM	#849
Bert Smyth Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 178	Ryan, there is a great potential for a story with what you're doing, but I agree with what the other guys are saying, its not really revealed yet. I realize this is just a trailer, but make sure your "doc" isn't just a bunch of thugs & gang bangers talking smack. You need to show the background of your subjects. I get the feeling you also need to identify your position on what you're seeing and filming... is it cool? tragic? hip? scary? pathetic? All docs are biased in the sense that the filmmaker chooses to tell a story, which is yours? I hope this isn't sounding harsh, because I think you're on the right track and have real potential. Those kids, next time, get the camera down at their level, at least that's what I would do. Ryan, be careful. Guys pulling out guns with silencer's on them, man, that is bad bad bad. Remember that people who are just "covering the story" get killed all the time. I would also consult a lawyer before you go any further. I'm pretty sure that taping illegal activity like that and just saying "hey, I'm just a filmmaker" can get you into trouble. I know its caused problems for people taping illegal car racing. In any event, being around guys with guns like that is not a good idea. Possibly a really great doc in the works, but proceed with caution! Cudos though for having the guts to get out there and shoot that. Didn't it freak you out a little?

August 30th, 2007, 11:58 PM	#851
Alex Sprinkle Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moore, Oklahoma Posts: 408	Dude, I love your stuff. I still sing, "I ain't got much of a smile" all the time throughout the day.

August 31st, 2007, 08:31 AM	#852
Douglas R. Bruce Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kumamoto City, Japan Posts: 136	Latest from my Japan videos Been a while since I added any new videos to my site. I just finsihed this one on a very mundane topic - Rice. It is at the bottom of the list on the following page: http://www.gaijin-eyes.com/03gallery/0301afh.htm Hope it interests some of you.... Regards, Douglas __________________ I was produced in Scotland, edited in Sweden, and am now showing in Japan. http://www.gaijin-eyes.com

August 31st, 2007, 10:56 AM	#853
Brian Posslenzny Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 28	Thanks for the comments. We're shooting with the JVC HD100 with the Brevis 35mm adapter. The car crash was a lot easier than we thought. We got both for free, because the director's brother works with cars and has contacts. One car was just going to be scrapped, so we could destroy it (we couldn't touch the other one). The car guys brought their tow trucks, and used it to tip the one car over. Our crew was minimal. We had a director, DP, gaffer, and about 3 grips. One guy did sound, and then we had someone doing stills. Thanks for looking! __________________ Brian Posslenzny http://www.CineVeraPictures.com

August 31st, 2007, 11:03 AM	#854
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Brian: I watched the film when you first posted too. Sorry didn't get a chance to comment. You used your contacts well...accident scenes was very convincing. And actress was great ! So when you are shooting with Brevis, it appears from most of shots that you have the prime lens stopped down pretty good. Seems to be around F5.6 to F8. Are you having to fight vignetting issues at all ? __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 31st, 2007, 12:04 PM	#855
Michael Rapadas Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South San Francisco, CA Posts: 91	A Trailer/Promo for my High school My school has a new school-wide prayer. We wanted to promote it through entertainment media before we taught it to other students. As a senior, I'm in a leadership group that promotes ministry in music and other arts. I directed and edited the promo. HVX200 w/ redrock Homedepot lights Any questions or comments welcome. Thanks guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHV5zsTU1co Better Quality: http://www.siprep.org/examen/examen.mp4 Last edited by Michael Rapadas; September 1st, 2007 at 02:44 AM.