Onboard XLR for power? at DVinfo.net

Ryan Morris · October 22nd, 2003, 11:56 PM

Even though I'm sure it would suck power, can you use one of the XLR connectors on th PDX10 to power a micro Frezzi if it has an XLR connector? This may be a stupid question, so flame me!
Thanks,
Ryan

Chris Long · October 23rd, 2003, 07:56 AM

A neat idea, but not one that will work, I think. I could be completely wrong about this, but the XLR connectors that are used in lighting are a different type--they have 4 or 5 pins. The audio XLR connectors on the PDX-10 (and everything thing else) are the standard 3 pin plugs. So they wouldn't even fit.

I suppose you could wire your own, but I don't think you could pull nearly enough power from the XLR adaptor to run a light. The only power available through the XLR adaptor on the PDX-10 is a relatively small current for microphone phantom power, 48 volts or less.

I'll wait to be corrected, but I think this is accurate. You may have to do the belt-pack battery route. I haven't looked into it, so I don't know, but doesn't Sony sell an accessory light for their cameras? Wonder where they ask that it be plugged in?

A pretty neat idea, though...

Ryan Morris · October 23rd, 2003, 10:52 AM

Should have one a bit more research before asking this question, pin configuration and voltage is all wrong, you'd think it would work because it all hooks up through the hot/smart shoe on top of the camera. Thanks though!
Ryan

Chris Long · October 23rd, 2003, 11:51 AM

Yes, actually, it's a great idea. Need to get Sony on to this...or we need a cool little light that runs on phantom power!

Bryan Beasleigh · October 23rd, 2003, 01:01 PM

You'd pay an arm an a leg for something with that limited a production and as well, most likely burn out the flimsy conductors.

Camera circuitry wasn't built with a heavy current draw in mind.

Ignacio Rodriguez · October 24th, 2003, 12:51 PM

Sony would prefer you to pay an arm and a leg for one of their lights which needs one of their expensive batteries, so you can also spend your other arm and other leg.

I would like to try one of those multi white LED lights... wonder if their are any camera mountable LED lights...

Jay Massengill · October 24th, 2003, 02:01 PM

An LED light would be an excellent idea, although many of the high brightness ones still draw way too much power to run on phantom. The Surefire E2e with KL1 LED head that I carry in my pocket draws 1 full watt and gets hot to the touch in a few minutes. Given how light-sensitive some cameras are you could probably get away with much lower powered multiple LED's.

Ryan Morris · October 25th, 2003, 03:24 AM

How about some of the new high end headlamps used in mountaineering, they are using small arrays of white LEDs. Some sort of universal mount design should be easy enough, don't you think?

Jan Roovers · November 25th, 2003, 01:15 PM

Have you seen this link?

http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/de/infos02c.htm

in english: http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/en/infos02c.htm

Seems very promising to me!

Ignacio Rodriguez · November 25th, 2003, 06:47 PM

I want one I want one I want one.

Viethai Nguyen · November 26th, 2003, 10:24 PM

Fall was over. Where could We buy this LED light????

Jan Roovers · November 27th, 2003, 02:41 PM

Dear Mr Roovers

Thank you very much for your interest in our LED video light "digiNova", code-no. 3282. This new product will be available probably in December 03 / January 04.

Please give us your full address that we can give you the address of our agency in your country.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards

Verena Schaefer (Secretary)

Jan Roovers · December 21st, 2003, 12:30 PM

I got answer again:

The price is € 480,--and it is sold from februari 2004

Jan Roovers · December 23rd, 2003, 10:54 AM

Today I was mailed that they will offer it in febr 2004 for a new price of €149,-!! Very interesting.

They said that the lightcolor is daylight and to be compared with a 7 watt halogen lamp, but because of the colour more effective.

I think i am gonna try it.

Viethai Nguyen · January 2nd, 2004, 12:58 PM

For Whom in USA and waiting :
"The DigiNova should be in next month.

So you are aware some changes have been made. The biggest being that a new LED is now available which is brighter then the 16 that they used in the prototype so the DigiNova will have one LED rather then 16. It will also take replaceable batteries rather then the built-in ones in the prototype. List price will be $153.00."

Jan, Do you have the picture of it??

October 22nd, 2003, 11:56 PM	#1
Ryan Morris Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 33	Onboard XLR for power? Even though I'm sure it would suck power, can you use one of the XLR connectors on th PDX10 to power a micro Frezzi if it has an XLR connector? This may be a stupid question, so flame me! Thanks, Ryan

October 24th, 2003, 12:51 PM	#6
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Sony would prefer you to pay an arm and a leg for one of their lights which needs one of their expensive batteries, so you can also spend your other arm and other leg. I would like to try one of those multi white LED lights... wonder if their are any camera mountable LED lights... __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

November 25th, 2003, 01:15 PM	#9
Jan Roovers Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amsterdam NL -Turnhout BE Posts: 158	Have you seen this link? http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/de/infos02c.htm in english: http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/en/infos02c.htm Seems very promising to me! __________________ ___________ Jan Roovers www.jtv.be

November 25th, 2003, 06:47 PM	#10
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	I want one I want one I want one. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

November 27th, 2003, 02:41 PM	#12
Jan Roovers Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amsterdam NL -Turnhout BE Posts: 158	The answer from Kaiser-fototechnik Dear Mr Roovers Thank you very much for your interest in our LED video light "digiNova", code-no. 3282. This new product will be available probably in December 03 / January 04. Please give us your full address that we can give you the address of our agency in your country. Looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards Verena Schaefer (Secretary) __________________ ___________ Jan Roovers www.jtv.be

October 23rd, 2003, 07:56 AM	#2
Chris Long Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Middletown, Maryland USA Posts: 177	A neat idea, but not one that will work, I think. I could be completely wrong about this, but the XLR connectors that are used in lighting are a different type--they have 4 or 5 pins. The audio XLR connectors on the PDX-10 (and everything thing else) are the standard 3 pin plugs. So they wouldn't even fit. I suppose you could wire your own, but I don't think you could pull nearly enough power from the XLR adaptor to run a light. The only power available through the XLR adaptor on the PDX-10 is a relatively small current for microphone phantom power, 48 volts or less. I'll wait to be corrected, but I think this is accurate. You may have to do the belt-pack battery route. I haven't looked into it, so I don't know, but doesn't Sony sell an accessory light for their cameras? Wonder where they ask that it be plugged in? A pretty neat idea, though...

October 23rd, 2003, 10:52 AM	#3
Ryan Morris Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 33	Should have one a bit more research before asking this question, pin configuration and voltage is all wrong, you'd think it would work because it all hooks up through the hot/smart shoe on top of the camera. Thanks though! Ryan

October 23rd, 2003, 11:51 AM	#4
Chris Long Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Middletown, Maryland USA Posts: 177	Yes, actually, it's a great idea. Need to get Sony on to this...or we need a cool little light that runs on phantom power!

October 23rd, 2003, 01:01 PM	#5
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	You'd pay an arm an a leg for something with that limited a production and as well, most likely burn out the flimsy conductors. Camera circuitry wasn't built with a heavy current draw in mind.

October 24th, 2003, 02:01 PM	#7
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	An LED light would be an excellent idea, although many of the high brightness ones still draw way too much power to run on phantom. The Surefire E2e with KL1 LED head that I carry in my pocket draws 1 full watt and gets hot to the touch in a few minutes. Given how light-sensitive some cameras are you could probably get away with much lower powered multiple LED's.

October 25th, 2003, 03:24 AM	#8
Ryan Morris Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 33	How about some of the new high end headlamps used in mountaineering, they are using small arrays of white LEDs. Some sort of universal mount design should be easy enough, don't you think?

November 26th, 2003, 10:24 PM	#11
Viethai Nguyen New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 19	Fall was over. Where could We buy this LED light????

December 21st, 2003, 12:30 PM	#13
Jan Roovers Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amsterdam NL -Turnhout BE Posts: 158	I got answer again: The price is € 480,--and it is sold from februari 2004 __________________ ___________ Jan Roovers www.jtv.be

December 23rd, 2003, 10:54 AM	#14
Jan Roovers Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amsterdam NL -Turnhout BE Posts: 158	Today I was mailed that they will offer it in febr 2004 for a new price of €149,-!! Very interesting. They said that the lightcolor is daylight and to be compared with a 7 watt halogen lamp, but because of the colour more effective. I think i am gonna try it. __________________ ___________ Jan Roovers www.jtv.be

January 2nd, 2004, 12:58 PM	#15
Viethai Nguyen New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 19	For Whom in USA and waiting : "The DigiNova should be in next month. So you are aware some changes have been made. The biggest being that a new LED is now available which is brighter then the 16 that they used in the prototype so the DigiNova will have one LED rather then 16. It will also take replaceable batteries rather then the built-in ones in the prototype. List price will be $153.00." Jan, Do you have the picture of it??