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November 30th, 2010, 04:43 AM | #31 |
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I know this is for what we want to have changed but.... Anyone know if they have a 2.35:1 cropping markers? These are super important and is so easy to implement it would be a REAL let down if they didn't have that option
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Yes it does have 2.35 crop markers. I tested it for this just the other day.
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The F3 has colour peaking, just like the EX1/EX3.
Andy: will we meet tomorrow when I bring over the 3D rig?
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Thanks Alister That's reassuring. Someone else on DVInfo.net said no color peaking or expanded focus button.
I'm glad to see it also has internal ND filters - another big DSLR hassle solved. Is there a waveform or vectorscope available in the camera like there is the Panasonics these days? Well I just got on the waiting list with my dealer - sounds like an absolutely killer product. |
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From the Sydney launch last night.
Different LUTs can be applied to the SDI output compared to what the camera records? The camera has the standard Sony "700" connector. There's a connector to fully sync two F3s for shooting 3D. From the chat after the screening of Compulsion: The EVF is very usefull, using it frees up the monitor for the director to look at. Low power consumption means you can go for hours without changing batteries. It is curious how the Director and DP who come from a film / high end digital background find what we've taken for granted as something quite remarkable in a camera. Pretty well everything else they were excited about has either been mentioned here or is just taken for granted by most of us. The only thing that caught me out watching Compulsion on the big screen was it looked too soft. Turns out almost every shot was overcranked so the whole thing was shot in 720p. At least no one can accuse Sony of staging that shoot :) |
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This video was posted in the other thread but I have something to say.
Watching this, man just look at that poor guy struggle to find some way to hold it. This thing weighs more than an EX3, it will have huge PL glass hanging off the front. WHY did Sony give this the same form factor as a handy cam? Did they do this on purpose? Possibly so when they release one with a proper form factor people who love the images from the F3 will jump on the F5? I wish they would at least explain what they had in mind when they designed it. Sorry, just thinking out loud. Same thing with the 50mbps 4:2:2. just odd to leave it out. I just get the horrible feeling they know exactly what they are doing ha ha. I'll take two. :)
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Yes and the camera in the video is fitted with a very heavy follow focus, steel rails and a large Arri type 19mm base plate and riser. Of course it's awkward to hold.
Do remember that stripped down and with the lightweight Sony PL lenses it is not that much heavier than an EX3. I'm not saying that it's ideal, but what form factor would have been? I regard it as a mini F35, which is also neither truly hand held nor shoulder mount. I don't think it's any worse than the Panasonic AF100 and it's got to be easier to use than a DSLR. Shoulder mount would be too bulky for many people, especially if they are adding external recorders and other accessories. Could it be smaller? Perhaps, but then I'm sure there would be complaints of it being too small and fiddly for serious productions. My biggest gripe is with the tripod mount, which could very easily of been much better.
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Agreed on the tripod mount. Sony told me that because of the plastic construction, they didn't want to over-spec the tripod mount as it would be stronger than the camera body itself. IMO it is best to design both to be strong enough to not break at all!
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The on shoulder position that they played with in the video seemed the most natural for hand held with these lenses. Having additional on board accesories/recordors will make this even more appropriate. I expect some one will supply something that will allow for this.
15mm rods are rather better for hand held, but I suspect they were just testing rigs for a short wide zoom |
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But a shoulder mount camera is difficult to use any way other than shoulder mounted or tripod mounted because of the length.
What I really don't understand about the base is why the 1/4" thread at the rear is off center. It would be so much more useful if it was inline with the others. What the design does do is leave the door wide open for 3rd party adapters.
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The camera doesn't really need to be longer, just a viewing system at the front so that the face is approx level with the front of the camera. The Aaton 16mm camera's V/F more or less gives this, as does the JVC GY HD100 or 200.
The JVC cameras can be used in loads of hand held positions using the side LCD rather than the V/F. |
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Obviously there will be a need for either a Sony or third party standard viewfinder--the flip-out screen is not an ideal setup for serious production work. Being able to put your eye up to a finder in daylight is much preferred to the washed-out image from a flip-out.
True enough about the F35 not being ideal for handheld either--without the deck on the back it's punishingly front-heavy. It took me hours of prep to configure this beast: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/hd-uhd-2...xperience.html
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F3 viewfinder ... adequate?
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I've been following the various posts regarding the soon to be available F3 and one question lingers in my mind, relating specifically to the attached VF. Therefore, for those of you who have had an up-close and personal encounter with the F3, is the attached VF adequate for accurate focus? I'd hate to disturb what already appears to be an awkward, handhold-able device with the added weight and bulk of an onboard monitor (i.e. Marshall). Thank you in advance. |
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