Handheld x20, what's the future?

Brendan Marnell · May 19th, 2009, 06:50 AM

I fancy this slo-mo feature to lengthen the rare brief good quality clips of fast bird-flight. The output may not be up to native HDV (whatever that is) but it should be better than time-stretching it in post. Does this mean I should go for the V1 because the FX7 can't handle 25p?

Is "peaking" on V1 able to respond instantly or does it take 2 or 3 seconds like zebra lines?

You are being thoughtful and useful, gentlemen, please keep at it.

Jonathan Shaw · May 19th, 2009, 03:57 PM

I haven't heard great things about the slo mo setting on the V1, why not put a post in the V1 section and ask.

A consideration for me would also be the fact that the V1 is now outdated by the Z5 / FX1000, I haven't looked but what is the price difference? The Z5/FX1000 would very very similar performance to the Z7 but cheaper and you could use additional screw on lenses if needs be.

Jon

Mike Beckett · May 20th, 2009, 01:34 AM

The Z5/FX1000 is a bit like the Canon XHA1 - it starts much wider and therefore the 20x zoom doesn't zoom as far. It seems to be designed with the event videographer in mind.

Brendan Marnell · May 21st, 2009, 04:12 AM

I'm learning that video image quality from XHA1, V1 or Z1 are pretty similar, but I suspect that everyone's talking about video filmed using a tripod. Tell me I'm wrong, please?

And has anyone tried Live View handheld using Canon 5D Mark II?

Bob Thompson · May 23rd, 2009, 07:34 AM

Brendan,

I have just noticed that there is a contributor to the 5D Mark 2 forum on this website who is also from Dublin. Maybe give him a PM and see if he can help or give you a demo.

Bob

Brendan Marnell · May 24th, 2009, 03:47 PM

I've tried to contact my fellow citizen, Bob, but without success. Anyway my continued scratching around has brought me no evidence that 5DMk II can handle video requiring active panning. There is no hope of videoing birdflight ... like this gull, for example ...

Tomorrow I'm trying out the V1.

May 19th, 2009, 03:57 PM	#32
Jonathan Shaw Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 552	I haven't heard great things about the slo mo setting on the V1, why not put a post in the V1 section and ask. A consideration for me would also be the fact that the V1 is now outdated by the Z5 / FX1000, I haven't looked but what is the price difference? The Z5/FX1000 would very very similar performance to the Z7 but cheaper and you could use additional screw on lenses if needs be. Jon __________________ www.ginclearfilm.com www.facebook.com/ginclearfilm

May 20th, 2009, 01:34 AM	#33
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	The Z5/FX1000 is a bit like the Canon XHA1 - it starts much wider and therefore the 20x zoom doesn't zoom as far. It seems to be designed with the event videographer in mind. __________________ Irish Railway Videos on Youtube

May 24th, 2009, 03:47 PM	#36
Brendan Marnell Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 938	I've tried to contact my fellow citizen, Bob, but without success. Anyway my continued scratching around has brought me no evidence that 5DMk II can handle video requiring active panning. There is no hope of videoing birdflight ... like this gull, for example ... Tomorrow I'm trying out the V1. Attached Thumbnails

May 19th, 2009, 06:50 AM	#31
Brendan Marnell Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 938	I fancy this slo-mo feature to lengthen the rare brief good quality clips of fast bird-flight. The output may not be up to native HDV (whatever that is) but it should be better than time-stretching it in post. Does this mean I should go for the V1 because the FX7 can't handle 25p? Is "peaking" on V1 able to respond instantly or does it take 2 or 3 seconds like zebra lines? You are being thoughtful and useful, gentlemen, please keep at it.

May 21st, 2009, 04:12 AM	#34
Brendan Marnell Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 938	I'm learning that video image quality from XHA1, V1 or Z1 are pretty similar, but I suspect that everyone's talking about video filmed using a tripod. Tell me I'm wrong, please? And has anyone tried Live View handheld using Canon 5D Mark II?

May 23rd, 2009, 07:34 AM	#35
Bob Thompson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 340	Brendan, I have just noticed that there is a contributor to the 5D Mark 2 forum on this website who is also from Dublin. Maybe give him a PM and see if he can help or give you a demo. Bob