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Rob Lohman March 17th, 2004 10:18 AM

You can always try downloading the latest Windows Media
Player from Microsoft and (re)install that.

Chris Hendrick March 17th, 2004 11:39 AM

Sony $ 50 rebate on Vegas & V5 Upgrade
 
Also Free Vegas 5

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professiona...as_rebate.html

Sony is pleased to announce a rebate on Vegas® 4.0 and Vegas + DVD video® and audio editing software. Version 5.0 is just around the corner but here is a great opportunity to get started on Vegas 4.0 software and save $50.00. In addition, any users who purchased version 4.0 of Vegas or Vegas + DVD software between March 1, 2004 and April 30, 2004 will be entitled to a free upgrade to version 5.0!


:)

VivaVegas

Glen Elliott March 17th, 2004 11:55 AM

I dunno I usually agree with Edward but might have to disagree on this one. Especially after seeing visual abnormalities in some mpgs output in "Good".
The thread is here (along with an example mpg):
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=22076

*no photo pan/crops, etc...in the mpg I posted...just camera movement (renderd using the MPG VCD template, set at "good"*

Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004 12:09 PM

You're not disagreeing with me, I'm just stating the standard answer. However, I've seen it to also be true when going from DV-AVI to DV-AVI. When going to other formats, it may very well help to change to Best.

Glen Elliott March 17th, 2004 04:00 PM

Edward, do you have any idea why I was getting this problem- and how changing it to High or Draft fixed it?! I'm boggled.

Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004 04:22 PM

Hard to say. I always leave mine on Best unless I'm under such a time restraint that I cannot do so. It's just easier that way. I do a weekly edit on another machine that is always left on good. Just a few titles are added and rendered to DV-AVI.

Peter Bock March 17th, 2004 08:33 PM

Credit Roll / Scrolling Right w/o Pause?
 
Is there any way that I can adjust or remove the pause in the "Timed, Scroll Right, on Frosty White" Media Generator?

Or... if somebody can please suggest an alternative method to have scrolling text from left to right, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

John Hudson March 17th, 2004 09:45 PM

Ill take a stab on this one.

There's two ways I can think of:

1. 'S' (Split) the exact frame before titles pause AND 'S' (Split) the exact frame after titles move again. Delete selection in-between Splits and join.

This worked for me perfectly.

2. The other way is most likely the more traditional method and that would be an Event Pan and Crop method.

Don Bloom March 17th, 2004 09:51 PM

Good ideas. You can also use track motion to move your titles and graphics.
Love Vegas, lots of ways to do things.
Don

John Hudson March 17th, 2004 09:56 PM

Track Motion! Yes! Thanks Don!

Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004 09:57 PM

Personally, I wouldn't use that preset. Try this:

Use the standard text generated media. Get on the keyframe at the beginning of the gen media timeline and move the text off the left hand side of the screen. Then move to the end of the gen media timeline and move the text off the right hand side of the screen. This will scroll from left to right without pausing in the middle.

Take a look at the last issue of my newsletter where I talk more about moving text.

Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004 09:59 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Hudson : Track Motion! Yes! Thanks Don! -->>>

Track Motion won't work if the text you want to scroll happens to be longer than the width of the screen. The positioning tab on the text Generated Media works great for this purpose without needing Track Motion OR Pan/Crop.

Graham Bernard March 17th, 2004 10:29 PM

Ah, Edward, "When going to other formats, it may very well help to change to Best." . . . would you recommend going BEST if my final, final render is say WMV or mpeg for DVD?

Grazie

Edward Troxel March 17th, 2004 10:41 PM

I think it's just something you'll need to test for any given circumstance. I don't think you could give an answer that would be 100% correct in all circumstances. You'll need to try different variations on your own.

Graham Bernard March 17th, 2004 10:46 PM

Understood . . thought you might say this .. just wanted an "educated" guess or your own real world experience . . nothing more nothing less . . . Chat room?

Grazie

John Hudson March 17th, 2004 11:27 PM

Thanks Edward and tks for the article.

Don Bloom March 18th, 2004 03:46 AM

Ahhhh Edward,
As usual to my rescue ;-)

I forgot about the longer text. Since I almost never do anything that long or scroll across I had forgotten.

3 lashes with an old Avid dongle for me.

Don

Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004 10:37 AM

Special Effects
 
Is there some secret way to allow Vegas 4.0 to add special effects like machine gun muzzleblast on prop guns or adding a third eye to the forehead of a walking character or a hole on a body part?

Rob Lohman March 18th, 2004 10:41 AM

There isn't a magic button or plugin for such work. It usually
requires seperate plates (footage, like the eye or a muzzle blast)
which can be shot or perhaps rendered (3D program) or painted
(2D paint program) and are then composited into the rest of
the scene.

If you have the footage like a muzzle flash it should be possible
to do it in Vegas. Although such rotoscoping, tracking and
compositing is a tedious job!

Keith Loh March 18th, 2004 10:45 AM

Photoshop and AE
 
Hugh, I did this with several frames using Photoshop and then compositing using AfterEffects. You should be able to do the same thing with Photoshop and Vegas Video.

You can see it here:
http://www.pyroglyphfilms.com/galler...oting_test.mov

I should have made the flashes a bit brighter and added another triangular element over it in retrospect.

Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004 10:45 AM

Boy that was fast!
 
Rats! What about a program like Pinnacle Commotion? Isn't that what it does? Can I import the effects to that or does Pinnacle not play nice with Vegas? ALSO, editing in Vegas is fabulous and I'll probably never use another program. HOWEVER... like a dunce I failed to purchase Vegas 4.0 with the DVD program so now I wonder if I can edit in Vegas and then open the finished product in Pinnacle Edition 5.0 which does have a DVD authoring program?

Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004 10:47 AM

Thanks Keith!
 
What does Adobe Photoshop go for?

Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004 10:48 AM

By the way I can't bring your website up to look at your screen shots. Bah!

Sunny Dhinsey March 18th, 2004 11:34 AM

I found that if I render the portions of the VOB file as an .avi file the quality of video is very good. I'm assuming that I'll lose some quality from the original .VOB file, but so far on playback tests, I have seen hardly any deviation from the original source

Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004 12:05 PM

Jean-Philippe: Deinterlacing in Vegas works FABULOUS. I just tested it two days ago with a Sony 1 CCD consumer camcorder and it looks awesome.

1) File>Properties> set to NONE-Progressive scan. Then set DEINTERLACE METHOD to BLEND

2) When you RENDER, go to CUSTOM>and change to NONE-PROGRESSIVE SCAN. It increases render time but it looks great.

Edward Troxel March 18th, 2004 12:06 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Sunny Dhinsey : I found that if I render the portions of the VOB file as an .avi file the quality of video is very good. I'm assuming that I'll lose some quality from the original .VOB file, but so far on playback tests, I have seen hardly any deviation from the original source -->>>

Where you'll see a bigger difference is if you look at the ORIGINAL AVI file that created the VOB file in the first place and compare it to your new AVI file.

Kim Kinser March 18th, 2004 12:10 PM

you might want to look at a product called alamdv for adding those kind of effects.

It's pretty inepensive and does a reasonably good job. I am by no means proficient at any of this video stuff but I added some effects in a home movie. the actual editing was done in vegas.

Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004 12:18 PM

WOW!
 
That was cute as hell! I just might try out that program. What I would like to use it for is to avoid using actual blank rounds and bullet hits for a project I am working on. I really don't like gunplay in my projects but this particular project does call for it.

Hugh DiMauro March 18th, 2004 12:21 PM

did you now there's a free download to ALAMDV?

Keith Loh March 18th, 2004 12:28 PM

Re: Thanks Keith!
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Hugh DiMauro : What does Adobe Photoshop go for? -->>>

If you are doing any kind of heavy duty art for video, film or any kind of digital work, you must have Photoshop. It's the starting point for a lot of work.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html

I've seen AlamDV and it's pretty neat. I would use AlamDV as a starting point and then go in with Photoshop to tweak it. The price is good too.

Were you referring to my screenshots? Which page were you trying to view it on? I'll need to go fix it.

By the way, here is a thread on another board that talks about DIY gun effects (you can sign in as guest).

http://forums.delphiforums.com/DVDA/messages?msg=83.8

I was basically asking the same question and researching it.

Here is some gunflashes that I was trying to do for a music video:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/DVDA/messages?msg=384.15

Jean-Philippe Archibald March 18th, 2004 12:38 PM

Thanks Hugh,

I have made some test and this is what I have concluded myself.

Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004 04:30 PM

size matters ? (monitor,hard drive)
 
1)Tell me if my laptop is really capable to work with Vegas:

Microsoft XP
mobileAMD Athlon XP1800+ (processor)
654 MHZ
480 MB of RAM
40 hard drive
Int. Explorer 6.0


2) So, working on my laptop I will use one monitor (JVC broadcast) But 9'' is big enough?

What size in your experience is minimum?

2) I will buy external hard drive - 60 GB
I will have about 3 hrs raw footage.

Is it big enough?

3) Do you guys know if maybe it's better to buy Direct Capture Hard Drive(30 GB for 600$) I could save capturing time right? Gimme your thoughts about replacing external hard drive by this device.



I am waiting for your reply. Thanks.

Voytek

Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004 04:33 PM

vegas on amazon
 
Guys, would you reccomend to buy Vegas on amazon.com?
I've found the best prices there.

Thanks,

Voytek

Mike Moncrief March 18th, 2004 05:12 PM

Hello,

i found and purchased my version on ebay.. If you are carefull and make sure the seller is legit, and that the version is not the acadhemic version of vegas, then you can find very good deals there..

Mike

Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004 06:31 PM

379 $ FOR VEGAS DVD
 
So the price for Vegas DVD on amazon is :

$379.99
New Seller: software-now (Safe buying guarantee)
Rating: 5.0 stars over the past twelve months (2 ratings). Seller has 2 lifetime ratings.
Availability: Item usually ships in 1-2 business days; Ships from CA, United States; Expedited shipping available.
See shipping rates

Comments: Brand New NOT ACADEMIC, NEVER REGISTERD, CAN BE REGISTERD! sealed with RECEIPT for proof of purchase in original packaging with Acid 4.0 and Vision Series Free delivery confirmation same day.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? did YOU SEE BETTER OFFER?

THANKS,
VOYTEK

John Hudson March 18th, 2004 09:02 PM

Voytek

Are you a student or do you know one?

http://store.yahoo.com/studentsoftwarestore/index.html

Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004 09:10 PM

i just got myself academic vegas for 280$
 
So, I asked the seller if it's true that I will not be able to register academic version with SONY.

He emailed me that there will not be a problem so I bought VEGAS DVD on ebay for 280$. Few minutes ago.

Now I am waiting for my VEGAS!!!

VOYTEK

Chris Kirby March 18th, 2004 09:12 PM

I bought my academic and registered it with no problems.

Federico Dib March 18th, 2004 09:13 PM

1.) I have less ram than you and 1Gb processor and Vegas handles pretty well, in fact it´s faster than Premier 6.5, and if in relation... I think it works better than Photoshop and all my music apps.

3.) I think 60gb Hard Drive is not enough.. If I were you I´d go for at least the double.. Video can eat space pretty quickly.

Voytek Stitko March 18th, 2004 09:17 PM

i just got VEGAS DVD for 280$
 
Yes I got it!

So, I am happy my laptop is good for editing.

As you advice I will buy external hard drive at least 120GB.

What company and model would you reccomend? And where to buy one?

Thanks!

VOYTEK


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