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Edward Troxel April 1st, 2004 09:03 PM

Don, you're at the wrong end of the state. It's nice and peaceful down here in the country. Shoot, I can even see the stars!!!

BTW, Sleep? What is that?

Don Bloom April 1st, 2004 10:09 PM

Edward,
What are stars? All I see is smog!

Awww, maybe it's just automobile emissions! :-)

You know, I've driven thru your part of the state a few times, got a ticket once on 57 way down around Cairo on my way to Memphis.
Man I hate 57.

Pleasant Dreams!
Don B

Randy Stewart April 1st, 2004 10:36 PM

Andy,
If you hold the control key down when opening Vegas, it will restore all of your settings to default. Beware, all of your settings will revert to default so don't do this if you want to save some. Hope this helps.
Randy

George Brackett III April 2nd, 2004 05:37 AM

Here's a great site:

http://www.dafont.com/en/

Todd Metzger April 2nd, 2004 06:55 AM

Just make sure to read the license that comes with the font. It is usually a readme.txt file. Some fonts are only licensed for personal use and require a small fee for commercial use. If you cannot find a license for the font, I would err on the side of caution and simply not use it.

Hugh DiMauro April 2nd, 2004 07:04 AM

I Think Edward Nailed It
 
Hey Edward:

I think you may be right. I had added then decided not to add programs in the past and that may be why some fonts stayed and some didn't. Thanks for all of your help and patience with me.

When dealing with me, does this old adage come to mind?

"A little bit of knowledge in the hands of a moron is dangerous!"

Hugh DiMauro April 2nd, 2004 07:08 AM

One More Thing...
 
Will Vegas 5.0 have any new upgrades making it worth purchasing?

Edward Troxel April 2nd, 2004 08:48 AM

I know that will change all Options - Preferences and screen layout settings but I'm not sure about the "presets". Let us know if it works.

Edward Troxel April 2nd, 2004 08:50 AM

NDA

Vince Debart April 2nd, 2004 08:52 AM

Vegas Ram ?
 
Does the amount of Ram have much to do with playing out to tape?
I know this my be a open-ended question but after the project is rendered and looks good on the PVW mode and loaded in the write to tape section, Does Ram play much of a part ..And on another issue can someone recommend a hard drive for my Dell 2350 running Vegas maybe 160 gig

Thanks
You guys are so helpful

Vince

Edward Troxel April 2nd, 2004 09:03 AM

How much RAM do you have? Generally speaking, no - RAM would not affect the outputting of the file.

Vince Debart April 2nd, 2004 09:51 AM

Thanks Edward ..at this time only 128

Vince

Bill Ravens April 2nd, 2004 10:34 AM

hmmmm....it depends. It takes RAM to render. I used to think 1 Gig was plenty, but, I've since seen some situations, like rendering individual still frames into a sequence, or RAM previewing, that really sucks up RAM. If you render and PTT in a single step, I disagree with Edward. 1 Gig is the minimum I would consider, 2 Gigs is better.

George Brackett III April 2nd, 2004 01:09 PM

I only hane 512, never had a problem. Make sure your page frame is large enough, though...

Glen Elliott April 2nd, 2004 01:21 PM

If you render and PTT in a single step, I disagree with Edward. 1 Gig is the minimum I would consider, 2 Gigs is better

I don't think ram plays a signifigant role in straight render speeds. The single most important factor is CPU. If your doing a ram render, sure it will help. Fast ram, faster ram render- more ram, the longer section you can render to ram.

When it comes to Printing to Tape ram isn't a factor at all. This is an action where you want a fast, defragged hd so you don't drop any frames on export. Though, again you don't "need" a SATA RAID 0 or the like. Things like 2 gigs of ram and Superfast HDs are hardware that will improve OVERALL performance- but in specifics in regards to Rendering to HD, and PTT are negligable.

1 Gig is the minimum I would consider, 2 Gigs is better.
People routinely run much less than 1 gig and render/ptt just fine.

Bill Ravens April 2nd, 2004 01:34 PM

If you turn on the task manager and watch the memory allocation in win XP Pro as it is rendering, you'll see the memory usage displayed. Unfortunately, the display shows total memory, including pagefile. When RAM is full, the system will automatically start swapping out with pagefile. Since the pagefile is really I/O from your hard drive, it's exceedingly slow. So, if you exhaust RAM, you WILL start writing to the pagefile and everything will grind to the speed of molasses. Monitor your memory useage, you'll see when, during the render process, the RAM is exceeded. As I said earlier, it's a function of what kind of rendering is going on. Some transitions and special effects really suck up RAM. For most things, you're right, but, for the few FX that really start crunching, your render time will jump up most noticeably. Agreed, 512 is the MINIMUM I would want to work with, 1 Gig is great if you can afford it, 2 Gig is the best, for those rare FX renders. PTT doesn't require rendering, this is true. but, if you render first, it'll take RAM. BTW, if you're running other programs, they all use RAM. It's possible to have all your RAM committed to other programs and none left for V4. If you have only 512 Megs of RAM, you'd better be real careful about what system utilities and services are running in the background.

Edward Troxel April 2nd, 2004 01:43 PM

Now that we know how much you have, yes, you can probably improve some performance with more RAM.

If Vegas, you'll find you need the most need for RAM is when doing RAM Previews. For other activities such as rendering and PTT, it's only working on a limited number of frames at any one time and, therefore, doesn't require much memory.

I have one machine with 256 Meg and one with 1 Gig. Render time IS faster on the 1 Gig machine but the processor is over 4 times faster as well. For rendering and PTT, I'd look at CPU speed and drive access speed first.

Jamison Olivieri April 2nd, 2004 06:02 PM

Can someone tell me were to download the script to run "WAX"?

Jean-Philippe Archibald April 2nd, 2004 07:44 PM

Follow up.

Rob, thak you, I have reinstalled Directx 9 and WMP and all is working fine now! But I don't know why........

Andy Shrimpton April 2nd, 2004 09:26 PM

Thanks Randy,

I'll give it a go when I get home tonight and post tomorrow.

cheers,

Andy

P.S. Edward: I got the DOT NET Framwork happening, will be diving into scripts soon. Thanks to all and sundry for help on this one.

Also Edward, got another question to post in a few hours, if you have time would appreciate your input on that one too.

Edward Troxel April 2nd, 2004 09:43 PM

You mean the .NET framework? It's at www.microsoft.com

Jamison Olivieri April 2nd, 2004 11:14 PM

Yeah i have net. framework but don't you also need scripts?

Peter Wright April 2nd, 2004 11:16 PM

Scripts are part of Vegas 4. No installation required, once .NET framework is.

Jay Mitchell April 3rd, 2004 01:20 AM

Some Really Great - Vegas News !
 
Dear Group,

I have some really great advance news that I would like to share with you - regarding Vegas and Vegas Group Activities at NAB.

First, I would like to say that I am proud to be a Loyal Vegas User and Supporter. And, I am also very proud of Sony Pictures Digital for Their committment to Vegas and the Product Line.

This year at NAB is going to be Extra Special for Vegas Users - Sony, is showing It's Support and Appreciation to Vegas Users by Hosting a Vegas Users Informal Meeting and Gettogether at the Paris Hotel on Monday Night April 19th from 7:30 to 9:30. There will be Coctails, Hors D'oeures and Great Vegas Conversation.

Everyone, will have a chance to meet Sony Electronics and Sony Pictures Digital Management Teams, including Sales, Marketing, Product Management, Training and Engineering Personnel.

Expect the formal announcement and rsvp info from Sony, shortly.

The Vegas Presentation Area on the Exhibit Show Floor is going to blow everyone's expectations away. Sony, is going all out to show off Vegas 5 and DVDA2. You can expect a very interactive and hands on learning experience.

I am glad to have had a small part in making this happen, for all of us. And, I am ecstatic with the marketing direction that Sony Pictures Digital is Taking!

--Jay Mitchell

Southern California Vegas Users Group


Edward Troxel April 3rd, 2004 07:12 AM

There's LOTS of scripts available. I have a large list of script sites at http://www.jetdv.com/tts/forums.htm. You will find the big scripts like Excalibur, Tsunami, and Neon as well many small free scripts.

Vince Debart April 3rd, 2004 09:26 AM

Wow thanks for all the info guys… Edward what is "drive access speed"

Sorry for all the dumb questions but I am migrating to Vegas from the Casablanca Avio so I have a lot to learn, but I must say Vegas is very impressive.

Thanks to all this is a very helpful community

Vince

Bill Ravens April 3rd, 2004 09:48 AM

If you look at your hard drive specs, one of the parameters they list is "Drive Access Speed" It should be in milliseconds and relates to the time it takes the read head to travel across the platter to the address where the data your trying to read is stored

Douglas Spotted Eagle April 3rd, 2004 11:19 AM

New VASST Training DVD
 
"Killer 3D Graphics and Lower Thirds" from VASST is just about ready to ship, and may be pre-ordered at a large discount for the DVInfo.net community. http://www.vasst.com/dvdproducts/cool3d.htm will get you to the site where you can watch a short stream of one of the training module sections.
With the release of Satish's brilliant WAX application, Vegas users can now import 3Ds models to the timeline without rendering, making this a great time to learn Cool 3D Production Studio.
The Sound Forge 7 DVD will also be shipping right after NAB, and we'll shortly announce another DVD we can't say much about right now.

Sunny Dhinsey April 3rd, 2004 11:56 AM

External Monitor Setup
 
Hi Guys,

I was wondering if I can somehow use my LCD FPD Monitor as an external monitor in Vegas (to replace the preview window on screen)

I have a conventional CRT monitor and an LCD Panel connected via the DVI output on my graphics card. I know that Vegas allows external monitor connection via a firewire link, but my LCD FPD doesn't have that and am currently using my Sony PC110E Camcorder to relay the firewire signal to my LCD FPD via an S-Video Connection.

Is there anyway I can connect my LCD FPD to use as an external monitor without having to use my camera to relay the signal.

I hope I'm making sense and would be grateful is somebody could offer some advice.

Glenn Chan April 3rd, 2004 12:37 PM

You should do external previews using a TV (preferably a NTSC monitor). There are many reasons for this, including:
A- overscan/underscan
B- a TV shows interlacing.
C- color accuracy- LCDs are not very accurate compared to just any TV. Any TV will be somewhat ok, but I wouldn't trust it.
D- different color schemes- LCDs use RGB and TVs YUV. Computer colors are really illegal for television.
E- a TV has crappy speakers to check if your mix translates ok. (but don't mix on crappy speakers)

A good setup would be:
dual monitors hooked up to your computer's video card
computer hooked up via firewire to your deck/camera, and a TV or NTSC monitor hooked up to your deck/camera.

Edward Troxel April 3rd, 2004 01:55 PM

You also need to look also at the speed in which the data is actually transferred to the computer. For example, compare the speed of data access when in PIO mode compared to DMA mode. PIO is MUCH slower - when using the SAME drive.

Rob Lohman April 3rd, 2004 04:21 PM

Something was just messed up. That can happen. It might even
be some installation that did it, or who knows. Most important
thing is that it works again now. Glad to hear this fixed it, and
much appreciated that you did a follow up. Thanks.

Peter Jefferson April 3rd, 2004 08:57 PM

any news on an aussie get together?

Jay Mitchell April 3rd, 2004 10:36 PM

Peter,

You might want to contact David Hague and Peter Wright. Peter, is a member of the SoCal Vegas Users Group and David Hague can be found on DMN Vegas. They both live in Austrailia and are active Vegas Users.

If you'll put another shrimp on the Bar B' - I'd be glad to come down.

Regards,

Jay Mitchell

Peter Jefferson April 4th, 2004 12:42 AM

im getting strange results...

i finished a clip which runs for 4 mins and due to not wanting to recompress again, i did a render (to go into steadyhand) using uncompressed format.

when i put this file in vegas, it plays fine..

when i put the same file in steadyhand it only gives me 26 seconds.

THEN when i attempt to play the fle using media player, again, 26 seconds...

now all my drives are NTFS, so i dont know what the issue is.. my captures direct from tape play fine as AVI at their true duration (these are raws from tape) but i cant play back a vegas clip...

i dont knwo if its the codec, but i doubt it.. i have no idea and its really frustrating...

Peter Wright April 4th, 2004 03:41 AM

Peter - you are probably thousands of miles away, but keep the OzVegas flag flying wherever you are.

We have a small monthly group here in Perth - about 20 each meeting, but numbers have nothing to do with how enjoyable it is to edit with Vegas.

Peter Jefferson April 4th, 2004 04:07 AM

Hey Pete and jay
thanks for the info, id love to set up a get together for sydney and canberra users!

Curt Kay April 4th, 2004 04:26 AM

Free DVD that I made with Vegas
 
Hey everyone,

A while back I made a football DVD with Vegas 4.0 and I was wondering if anyone wanted to review my footage and give me some feedback. There are so legality issues with the video that I am aware (music and logos) of and I'm trying to fix them in the future. I have about 5 extra DVD's if anyone is interested.

Send me a PM if you would like to review it. Thanks!
EDIT: I just realized this board does not have a PM feature... drop me an email at curt@<fighthespam>curtkay.com

(any comment is worth hearing in my opinion, only was I'll get better at this)

-Kay

Andy Shrimpton April 4th, 2004 06:00 AM

For those following this thread:

Nope, starting Vegas with Control depressed DOESN"T reset the presets.

I also uninstalled and re-intalled, but that didn't do it either.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Andy

Edward Troxel April 4th, 2004 06:30 AM

About the only other thing I could suggest is:

Uninstall again, delete any Vegas folders that might remain, delete any Vegas registry entries that might remain, and then reinstall. Otherwise, I suggest contacting Tech Support.


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