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Peter Jefferson April 7th, 2004 02:22 AM

pls do!!!

it would be great to get a conglomerant (spelling?) down here to demo the new tools...

i used to go to the SoFo support forums for updates and info, but since sony took over, ive been a lil lax...

But in all honesty, theres just so much speculation out there, that i have decided to just wait until its released and i can get my hands on a demo or someone writes up a review :)

Rob Lohman April 7th, 2004 02:48 AM

If you want full movement then the only way is rotoscoping and
adding 3D rendered objects with a 3D package. I remember seeing
a tutorial for Lightwave on such a thing once. But searching on
the world "building" in this regard doesn't yield very usable
results.

Peter Jefferson April 7th, 2004 02:58 AM

Vegas second colour corrector has a masking object which allows you to allocate the colour ( i thnk its the colour from memory, but i believe u can elect to mask an area "area" im not in front of it nwo so im not too sure, its teh eye dropper on teh left hand side...

anways, from here u can creat a mask of the background then crop a layer (for each building)

each building can then be motion tracked and then affected with something like Pixelan flow texture or someone within vegas to create the movement (swirl or tv simulator for teh waxy effect) (for EACH building) and you background will remain ok :)

Last time i did something like this was when V4 first came out, so i may have left out a step, but its similar to rotoscoping in Combustion (which is what i use now)

Peter Jefferson April 7th, 2004 03:06 AM

One thing I have noticed is that if your mpgs are constant bitrate, the degradation is minimized...

Peter Jefferson April 7th, 2004 07:35 AM

Upsampling footage for HD output on DVD
 
okies, i havent really done any research into this, but im lookin at it..

what i want to do is upsample my footage to 1080x720 25p HD

vegas lets me do this with project settings, and then i can edit and output using dvda.. no probs...

but is there something im missing???

something just seems left out.. i mean.. wouldnt dvda drop the resolution back down to 720x576?? UNLESS i specify it to retain the original project settings..


i havent had a chance to experiment.. i was just wondering if anyone had already tried this??

Vince Debart April 7th, 2004 08:42 AM

Audio help
 
I have put together a 4 min. video with cuts 2 transitions and a very basic CG. After render and play out to tape I want to add some music. I go back to the timeline set the courser to the first frame of video insert a new audio track audio #2 ..”#1 is the nat sound from the camera” .. As I try to place the music track on the timeline the video and the audio track get bumped back to the end of the new music track. Can someone tell me why..

And on another matter when I try to rip audio from the CD ROM Vegas sees only my CD/RW drive and it takes a long time to rip the cut. Anyway I can get Vegas to see the CD ROM instead. I looked at the drop down menu it sees the CD/RW or NONE
Thanks

Vince

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 08:57 AM

Try turning OFF Ripple. Either push the button on the toolbar or press CTRL-L.

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 08:59 AM

Re: Audio help
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Vince Debart : And on another matter when I try to rip audio from the CD ROM Vegas sees only my CD/RW drive and it takes a long time to rip the cut. Anyway I can get Vegas to see the CD ROM instead. I looked at the drop down menu it sees the CD/RW or NONE
Thanks

Vince -->>>

WHAT dropdown box did you look at? The one on the CD Capture screen? Or the one in preferences?

Vince Debart April 7th, 2004 09:29 AM

CD I think Iwill check when I get home.. I will try the ripple too


Thanks Edward

Vince

Mark Richman April 7th, 2004 11:47 AM

2 hours of video on DVD
 
Is anyone getting a full 2 hours of video on DVD with Vegas + DVD?

What settings are you using?


Thanks in advance,
Mark

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 11:55 AM

Yes. Read my newsletter. I talk about the settings I use and give a bitrate chart.

http://www.jetdv.com/tts

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 11:57 AM

Mark, I see you're from Orlando. You going to be there on May 21st? I'm working on getting an informal get-together of Vegas users on that day. I'll be arriving in Orlando that afternoon.

Chris Moore April 7th, 2004 12:00 PM

Photo Montage Zoom? Ken Burns Effect
 
Is Vegas The only NLE that can do the zooming into pictures? I have not been able to find any info on other programs able to do this. One guy told me vegas did it easier than other progams.

Chris Moore April 7th, 2004 12:06 PM

Learning vegas?
 
What is the best product to learn vegas 4.0 throughly? Ive played with the demo. Some things come easy others look like a difficult task. I want something where its not really basic but also not talking about things Ive never heard of. Can anyone help me?

Jean-Philippe Archibald April 7th, 2004 12:26 PM

A good way to do your first steps in vegas is to have a look at this thread http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=20830 and print the quick reference guide.

Keith Loh April 7th, 2004 12:32 PM

After Effects can do that easily.

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 12:33 PM

I would do multiple things. First READ THE MANUAL - that's always a good first step. You can also look at my newsletters http://www.jetdv.com/tts especially at the "Beginner's Corner" sections. Douglas Spotted Eagle has both a book and DVD training set. Gary Kleiner has a DVD training set. And, of course, are forums such as this one.

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 12:36 PM

Vegas does it very easily. I explain how to do it in detail in Vol. 1 Issue #8 of my newsletter http://www.jetdv.com/tts. Other NLE's CAN also do it, however.

Jim Lafferty April 7th, 2004 01:12 PM

Link doesn't work :/

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 02:05 PM

Does for me. Just tried it. How about this one:

http://www.cuibono-soft.com/Products/products.html

Vince Debart April 7th, 2004 02:36 PM

The ripple was It..on the CD it was in the one in preferences

Any ideas

Thanks
Vince

Vince Debart April 7th, 2004 02:41 PM

Chris

I am learning it too the book and this forum are very helpful
So far for me it’s easier then Avid

Good luck
Vince

Jay Mitchell April 7th, 2004 02:51 PM

Free NAB Passes
 
There is still time to register for Free NAB Exhibition Floor Passes.

Just follow the directions, below.

--- In SoCalVegasUsers@yahoogroups.com, "jmstein" wrote:

Here is the Free Registration Link for NAB Exhibition Floor Passes.

1. http://ww4.expocard.com/nab041/ShowOnly

2. Enter Code: JZ10

3. Enter Your Personal Info

4. You will get an email confirmation

You may register as many persons as you need.

--Jay Mitchell

Edward Troxel April 7th, 2004 02:55 PM

Yes, click on Extract Audio from CD. Below the big white area in the middle is a drop down box. It should list both drives.

David Mintzer April 7th, 2004 11:22 PM

Pretty much all the prosumer and up NLE's can do the Ken Burnn's effect---Vegas, in my mind is the most functional in this regard.

Peter Jefferson April 8th, 2004 02:07 AM

strange, i think its actualy the HD configuration...

Theyre ntfs drives, but the only way i can play these files (after being rendered) is within the Vegas timeline (so printing to tape is straigh off avi from teh timeline, not vidcap), no other editor will acknowledge the files actual duration either...

Peter Jefferson April 8th, 2004 02:10 AM

individual clip track motions work wonders here..

another trick is to layer a looping clip under the main image slideshow.. this way any gaps caused will be filled with this.. and another trick is to lower the opacity of the slideshow track and use a light coloured texture animated with pixellan flowtexture... this is good for weddings :)

Rob Lohman April 8th, 2004 03:01 AM

I'm not sure what you are trying to do here Peter. DVD-Video
doesn't support HD resolutions. So yes, DVD Architect will
re-encode the video to 720x576 (PAL) or 720x480 (NTSC).
So all you've done is add hours upon hours of re-encoding and
losing quality to gain absolutely nothing.

The only way to distribute HD to someone else at this point in
time is to use MPEG2-HD (which no DVD player to the best of
my knowledge supports yet including all authoring applications
since it isn't a DVD standard) or WM9 HD. The latter can be
burned on a DVD-Data disc or as an extra file on a DVD-Video
and there 2 players (I belief) out there that can play that back.

Other then that there is also D-VHS which is HD if I'm not mistaken.
Again, not a lot of people have players for that and I'm not sure
how you would get your HD footage from your computer on to it.

Then again, since you are usampling your footage, why not keep
it SD? I don't see any advantage to upsample which costs you a
lot of time and then you basically have nothing to distribute it
on.

People with HD TV's or projectors might have a DVD player that
will upsample (in realtime) the SD footage to HD or have a special
upsampler in their chain.

Rob Lohman April 8th, 2004 03:15 AM

Also see this thread

Peter Jefferson April 8th, 2004 03:40 AM

much appreciated rob.. i guess therres alot i gotta learn about hd :)

Jim Lafferty April 8th, 2004 09:39 AM

Might've just been down -- anyhow it works fine now -- thanks!

Jamison Olivieri April 8th, 2004 03:58 PM

Capturing Problems
 
Hey Im having a problem with capturing my footage. I cue my devie and start capturing and after about 20 second absolutley everything stalls even the mouse and keyboard i can't even shut down i have to turn off the power switch. I have lost many files over this and i really would like to know what to do to fix this problem. If i uninstall and reload the software do i loose my vegas files? Is there anyother way i could fix this?

Steve Leone April 8th, 2004 05:54 PM

re: Vegas EDL
 
The OMF files are in fact the MEDIA files that AVID uses.....it is a proprietary media format
Unlike othe NLE's, Avid does not use the OS native filing system...instead it creates a chain of arbitrarily named
OMF files...I believe Avid developed this system because 10 years ago quicktime and Video for Windows did not have the stuff to do real NTSC video....

....if you wish to recreate the project on your Vegas machine, try having your client output a generic(text) edl, then import that into your vegas project as an edl...then re-digitise the media onto your system...if all you are doing is scoring, it wont matter much if the transition s are the same type; Vegas will replace any transition other than a cut with a dissolve by default, but you can always change that if you like.
The other thing you can do is have the client export the timeline as an avi or MPG-2 file, then burn it on a disc(DVD?) ..then just drop the file onto your timeline and start to score.....that would only work if the aquistion footage timecode is not critical.
Good Luck

Edward Troxel April 8th, 2004 07:42 PM

Uninstalling and reinstalling will not remove or harm any of your AVI files. As for what's causing the problem, it's very hard to say.

Jamison Olivieri April 8th, 2004 09:15 PM

Yeah i know that uninstaling the program won't remove my avi but will it remove my project files? If so could i save my project files on a disk and when im done uninstalling and reinstalling could i load my saved files from a cd?

Emre Safak April 9th, 2004 12:20 AM

An error occurred starting Vegas
 
I recently had to format the HD. After reinstallation I now get the message

"An error occurred starting Vegas. The reason for the error could not be determined."

It was working fine before...should I reinstall it yet again?

James Nyfeler April 9th, 2004 04:46 AM

Online music purchases: using in my NLE
 
I'm working on a short video montage for my daughter's 16th birthday. There are a small number of songs that I'd like to include, but I don't want to buy the whole CD, so I thought "hey, perfect. I'll just download each individual track for a buck off of one of the many sites out there." So, I download a song or two, and try to import the media into my NLE (Vegas), and I get an error due to the fact that the file has copy protection. Is there any way I can use this song in my NLE, or do I have to purchase the CD? Is there a site that offers non-copy protected versions? I don't mind paying more, I just want the file to be useful.

I know all about the copyright issues, but this production truly is for personal use only.

Nick Jushchyshyn April 9th, 2004 05:25 AM

But the music DOES play from your MP3 device, right ??
You could get a wire to connect the output of this to your sound card and record the audio to an AVI.
Not "perfect" duplicate, but it should take care of the video.

Have fun.

Rob Lohman April 9th, 2004 05:55 AM

No, it will not remove your project files either. But to be safe it is
always good to back those up anyway (to a CD for example).

Let's return to the basics first:

1) what computer hardware do you have (brand, CPU, memory, harddisk(s) [brand, size], other equipement like burners, extra expansion cards like capture boards etc.

2) which operating system and what version are you running

3) what card are you using to capture? (full blown capture card, el cheapo firewire card, builtin firewire port etc.)

My first thought would be whether you have DMA enabled. But
such things are really impossible to tell with an as detailed as
possible description from you regarding what you have in your
system, what you run and how you use it.

Rob Lohman April 9th, 2004 05:59 AM

What OS are you running? I re-install can't hurt, so try it out.


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