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Edward Troxel January 4th, 2005 01:30 PM

Yes. You don't have the proper codec installed for Vegas to use to read this file. Did this file happen to come from a camera? If yes, you need to download an MJPEG codec. I have full information about this in the Vegas FAQ at the link below my name.

Tim Kay January 4th, 2005 02:21 PM

yes it came from a camera but it isn't a still photo (thus being .avi like your page said).

i think i found the link on your page

http://thetroxels.com/vegas/forum/vi...ht=mjpeg+codec

is this the one i need to download? It is a movie file and this makes reference to a still. The computer is not at my house so i want to have as much info before i leave and try to trouble shoot but this sounds like the problem. I'll keep you posted when i get back.

thanks

Edward Troxel January 4th, 2005 03:29 PM

That's the correct link. You can either download the one referenced there or look at the other references for other options.

Milt Lee January 4th, 2005 05:50 PM

spliting multiple tracks
 
Hi - While it's not critical, it would be very convenient if I could split (s key) more than one track at one. I'm editing a project where I've put 4 tracks above each other synced together. One is a video and one is a video of a person watching that video ( a reaction shot) Now I'm editing out large portions of it because I just want a few minutes.

So when I get to an edit point, I split the first track, select the next track, move the cursor to the same point, split the second track etc etc. Is there some easier way. Could I create a region that I could remove? Or does Vegas have a way to move to a different track without moving the cursor?

Thanks!
Milt Lee

Tim Kay January 4th, 2005 06:43 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : That's the correct link. You can either download the one referenced there or look at the other references for other options. -->>>

Ok so that worked, AWESOME! Couldn't believe how easy it was. Just when i was happy that it all worked, a new problem emerged.

I want to use the "print to tape" option but it kept telling me file type wasn't recoginzed, yet i could play it in vegas (tried .wmv, .avi & .mpeg). Why would i get the error message? The tape was new, camera was in tape mode, yet i couldn't print or preview.


My explanation is kind of vauge so if you need more info let me know

thanks

Fred Finn January 4th, 2005 09:48 PM

You can download 3D LE plugin from the original page, but they don't offer support for it. http://www.debugmode.com/bin/download.php?pluginpac.zip

Edward Troxel January 4th, 2005 10:19 PM

If you want ALL tracks split, either CTRL-A to select all events or CTRL-SHIFT-A to deselect all events. If you only want specific tracks split, CTRL-Click each event you want split before pressing "S".

Splitting is very logical:
Nothing selected - everything is split
Something selected - only selected events are split

Edward Troxel January 4th, 2005 10:20 PM

Camera should be in VTR mode.

Ineta Salna January 5th, 2005 01:38 AM

Vegas 5 crashing during rendering process
 
Hello everyone!!!

Can someone please help me - I recently bought Vegas 5 (I was working with Vegas 4.0 till then) and was unpleasantly surprised when it started crashing down during the rendering process of a 6 min long video clip. I have never had such problems with Vegas 4 and I don't think the problem is in my compi (I'm sure of that) - I do suspect that the new plugins (Adorage and Pixelan) might be the case, but I'm not sure for when I render just a small part of the project it works fine - but when I want to save all the video the program usually crashes around 90%. I even installed the updates - but in vain.

Please help!!!!!

Ineta

Rob Lohman January 5th, 2005 04:08 AM

Welcome aboard DVInfo.net Ineta!

What operating system version would you be on? Are those
plugins certified to be used with Vegas 5 (and not only 4)?
(I don't know those myself)

Edward Troxel January 5th, 2005 09:50 AM

Both of those plugins should work fine in Vegas 5. There's a lot of unanswered questions, though. How about starting with:

1) What is the source format?
2) What format are you rendering?
3) Are there any large pictures in this project?
4) If yes, do they happen around the 90% mark?
5) Any other info that might be useful?

Michael Estepp January 5th, 2005 12:47 PM

Rendering
 
Hey Folks,

Here's a problem you may not have heard before. I am rendering out my movie, it has three plug ins on it, brightness/contrast, levals, and black and white. I watch the movie in "preview" when I edit, and it looks grainy and dirty... just the way I want it. When I render it out, it looks TOO GOOD, glossy and very clean.... Is there a way to render it out to look bad? like it does in "preview"? I know there is an option to render quality to Preview, good or best, I am trying that now... but I am doubtful... any help would be appriciated...

Michael Estepp

Fred Finn January 5th, 2005 01:11 PM

Turn title into mask over color gradient
 
I know it's something simple. I just can't find a reference to it, or figure it out.

Edward Troxel January 5th, 2005 01:32 PM

I think what you are looking for is what I explain in Vol 2 #5 of the newsletter. Vol 2 #3 has a similar article but is geared toward Vegas 4 instead.

Edward Troxel January 5th, 2005 01:34 PM

Definitely first render with preview quality which should help degrade the image. You might also want to look at the Film Effects effect which can add grain and other things.

Michael Estepp January 5th, 2005 01:55 PM

I have played with the film grain, the image still looks too pollished

Fred Finn January 5th, 2005 02:28 PM

Thanks Ed!

Tony Webber January 5th, 2005 03:29 PM

Loss of quality with effects
 
Hello,

I've just edited a project in vegas and have started colour correction, however when i add any effects the video quality drops seriously. Giving a kind of pixelation look to it like its been heavily compressed.

If i render out to tape and play it from the dv camera it still looks awful. If i remove the effects in vegas the video looks fine again.

Has anyone experienced these issues? If so, can you tell me what im doing wrong.

Cheers

Tony

Tim Kay January 5th, 2005 07:18 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : Camera should be in VTR mode. -->>>

yes, it was in VTR mode and i had controls of the camera. I kept getting an error message that said format not recognized yet they were the basic ones that Vegas compressed.
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Any other ideas why it didn't record?

Kyle Ringin January 5th, 2005 08:41 PM

Are the project settings set to either DV or DV widescreen?

If you are sending it to a DV camera it'll have to send it DV, not any other codec.

Tim Kay January 5th, 2005 09:49 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Kyle Ringin : Are the project settings set to either DV or DV widescreen?

If you are sending it to a DV camera it'll have to send it DV, not any other codec. -->>>

Does that mean it can't be a wmv or avi file?

Dave Coyne January 5th, 2005 09:52 PM

Tech Challenged
 
Hey. My last NLE was a Casablanca. I'm interested in a user friendly system. I'd rather not spend the dough on another stand alone unit but I'm afraid that Vegas will be too frustrating to use. Now, I know it may seem simple to most of you but let me give ya some perspective. In my head: Casablanca= BIG BOLD CRAYON / Adobe Premier= alien cryptic code.

cheers,
-dave

Edward Troxel January 5th, 2005 10:10 PM

NOT WMV.

DV is an AVI file. Pick either NTSC-DV AVI or PAL-DV AVI depending on your needs.

Edward Troxel January 5th, 2005 10:14 PM

The best advice I can give is to download the demo and give it a try. You can also look over my newsletters - especially the beginner's corner articles.

p.s. Vegas isn't like Premier.

Glenn Chan January 5th, 2005 10:22 PM

You can try the demo for Vegas. Some people find it easy to use... others do not (it made no sense to me since I learned Final Cut first, and it is entirely different than Final Cut). The sticky at the top of this forum was helpful to me.

Training materials might also help... this way you learn workflows that work and how to do things properly.

Understanding Vegas:
Vegas originally started out as a multitrack audio program. If you know how to use them then it should make sense to you. If not, then Vegas is kinda weird because it is nothing like other editing programs (Final Cut / Premiere Pro / Avid style).

Adobe Premiere 6.x versus Premiere Pro: Premiere Pro is much better and re-designed. It is very much like Final Cut on PC. You might have a better grip on things with Final Cut or Premiere Pro (I like Final Cut better, but if you have a PC check out the demo from PPro; the two programs are similar).

2- Quick basic tutorial on Vegas:

Capturing: Go to file --> capture to get into the video capture tool. Choose Capture Video- this will capture the whole tape and automagically break up clips if you set the date/time on your camera.

Import the footage into your Vegas project (if necessary) and drag clips onto the timeline. You can select the edges and move them left/right to trim clips. You can add dissolves by dragging the top corners of the clips (watch the cursor change). You can also create dissolves by overlapping two clips- Vegas automatically puts in the dissolve.

Enable snapping for clips to snap to each other. Snapping only occurs for one track, unlike other NLEs. You can't snap a clip from one track to the head/tail of a clip on a upper/lower track.

Quantitize to Frames you can disable if you wish to do certain audio work. Leave it on for video.

Read the shortcut keys PDF... it goes over useful shortcuts like mouse wheel up/down = zoom.

Hopefully Vegas makes sense to you. It can be really powerful if you know what you want to do with it.

Kevin James January 5th, 2005 10:24 PM

Couple small issues
 
When I use the pan crop tool my crop guide disappears and I can't seem to get it back. This usually happens when skipping around a clip. I solved this once before but have since forgotten how and the hlp file didn't provide me with a solution.

Also, after importing and trimming in the timeline an audio file I am not able to insert and volume envelope. No option appears in the right click menu. This hasn't happened before.

Any help wold be appreciated. Thanks!

Kevin James January 5th, 2005 10:27 PM

New system Time
 
I'm pretty sure I want to go Athlon 64. Possibly Dual. I'm having trouble finding motherboards that will support Dual 64's though. Would it be major overkill to go dual 64's? I'm thinking around 2-4gb Ram, pair of 300gb sata's (to start).

This system is going to be purely for vegas. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Glenn Chan January 5th, 2005 10:32 PM

1- Which filters are you using for color correction?
2- What format is your project and source footage? (i.e. NTSC DV)
3- Are you rendering in "good" quality?

Glenn Chan January 5th, 2005 10:41 PM

Would it be major overkill to go dual 64's?
Check the dual processor thread... dual processors don't help Vegas that much except on:
A- Simple renders.
B- MPEG2 encoding.
C- Multiple instances of Vegas open.
D- ??? Network rendering to your own computer.

On the Sony site's Vegas forum, there are also rendertest.veg results (rendertest.veg is a benchmark). Prescott-core Pentiums seem to be the fastest right now. Canterwood-core Pentiums (6% slower than same clock speed Prescott) and AMD64 processors run neck to neck, although Pentiums are faster at MPEG2 encoding. In real world renders you may also see Pentiums pull slightly ahead by a few percent since rendertest.veg doesn't use hyperthreading (Pentium feature) as much as real world renders do.

I haven't checked the Sony forums in a while so rendertest.veg results may be different.

2- Lots of motherboard support opterons, the server version of the AMD64 processors. There are single, dual, and quad processor models (1xx, 2xx, and 4xx series). i.e. you can 2 opteron 242s and stick em in one of the many motherboards that support them.

3- A prescott-core Pentium is your best bang for your buck performance wise, although there are hidden costs such as electricity and slightly less reliability (Prescotts run really hot).

Dual processors are really pricey for a very marginal increase in speed. You need to get the really high clock speed ones to get a system that is faster than a single processor machine. A 3.2ghz Pentium may/will be able to outperform dual 2.8ghz Xeons on many renders.

4GB of RAM may be overkill and not worth your money if it means buying expensive 1GB sticks instead of 512MB ones. How much RAM you need for Vegas is debatable... you can search on this forum and others.

Tony Webber January 6th, 2005 02:27 AM

1. im using the colour correction filter it also does it when i black bar the clips.

2. the footage is all Pal DV 4:3
3. rendering is set to best

Ray Sigmond January 6th, 2005 05:06 AM

Why Choose Vegas ????
 
I currently am using Pinnacle Liquid Edition 6 and Adobe Premiere. I see a lot of people here are using Vegas and would like to know what Vegas users feel are the key features that make Vegas their NLE of choice over other PC programs such as Premiere Pro, Avid Xpress Pro, Canopus or Liquid Edition 6.

I have been researching and found some great training info on Vegas as well.

Vasst Training Products (lots of goodies Douglas Spotted Eagle and more)
http://www.vasst.com/training_products.htm

David Jimerson Celluloid & ReelPak-1
http://www.vasst.com/celluloid.htm

Gary Kleiner's Site
http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com/

Edward Troxel Vegas Scripting and Training
http://www.jetdv.com/vegas/


Thanks,

Ray

Edward Troxel January 6th, 2005 08:52 AM

What do you mean by the "crop guide"?

The volume envelope is TRACK level. To turn it on, just press "V" after clicking on the event.

Edward Troxel January 6th, 2005 09:12 AM

You've gotten LOTS of answers over the various forums on which you posted this question. The brief summary seems to be:

Audio
Stability
Scripting
Compositing abilities
Logical Workflow
Active/helpful forums
etc...

Ray Sigmond January 6th, 2005 09:28 AM

You're right Ed, and in addition to the features, the forum support and energy is first class. Most vegas users are extremely pleased and excited about Vegas. I can't say that for some of the others.

Regards,

Ray

Chris Moore January 6th, 2005 12:31 PM

Making a song end with my video(Slow down or speed up)
 
Can I slighty slow or speed up a Song to match my video? I know if i do to much it will sound funny but i have heard they do this to radio broadcasts to gain more time. Is it possible with vegas 5?

Vince Debart January 6th, 2005 12:59 PM

We use to do this with a Ampex VPR 3 and an audio device that synthesized the audio as to match the video. In a 1/2 hr. show you could pick up :30 seconds so that the sales dept. could sell another spot in a 1/2 hr. show

I think this was dun by the VPRs TBC dropping a field of video every second

You can tell if a show has been “compressed” when the camera made a pan left or right as the camera panned the video would seem to skip we did this for a time to some syndicated shows but I think the producers found out about it and threatened legal action

Edward Troxel January 6th, 2005 01:15 PM

Hold down the CTRL key and resize the clip. This will allow you to speed it up or slow it down.

Dennis Adams January 6th, 2005 05:55 PM

Enhanced support for Sony HDR-FX1 camcorder in Sony Vegas update
 
This morning we released an updated version of Sony Vegas 5 that contains:

1) HDV project templates
2) HDV source file interpretation
3) HDV render templates for Sony HDV-compliant 1080-60i and 1080-50i HDV MPEG-2

The good news here is you can now get your HDV projects back to Sony HDV cameras and decks.

Download the Vegas 5 update here:

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...p2.asp?DID=496

If you already have Vegas 5, it's a free update. If you don't, you can use it as a free trial.

Of course, it works well with CineForm Connect HD, also available from the website for a reduced price.

Happy New Year, and Happy Editing.

///d@
Sony Media Software

Steve Crisdale January 7th, 2005 05:56 AM

Re: Enhanced support for Sony HDR-FX1 camcorder in Sony Vegas update
 
Thought I'd mention that Vegas still (even with this update) does not capture from the FX-1 (or HD10u for that matter), so you still need a capture utility.

Canopus and Ulead are releasing HDV capture capable updates of their software that will lure away those looking to Sony's own NLE flagship Vegas for an integrated solution....and all down to the inability to capture from the cam.

As the capture of HDV is still inoperative in Vegas, I'd also assume writing back to the FX-1 is achieved.....how?

Despite ConnectHD having these capabilities, I'd still much prefer to do it all through Vegas.

On the bright side.... HDV performance seems to be 'snappier'.

Kevin James January 7th, 2005 06:49 AM

By crop fuide I mean the dashed lines with the "f" in the middle that denote the viewing area.


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