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Saturnin Kondratiew October 12th, 2005 01:20 PM

just switched from p.pro to vegas 6 and alreayd in trouble
 
..i have a sony walkman and i cant capture through vegas 6. It wont recognize the device for some reason, but i can take a still from the walkman. So i'm not sure what i need to do or what, i'm loosing my mind here.
thanx for any help
frustrated editor

UPdate: i got the 6c update and it seems to work....
wow...not sure what that was all about but shouldnt it work right out of the box???

John Rofrano October 12th, 2005 02:36 PM

The Video Walkman might not support camera control over firewire. (you are using firewire right?) In Vegas Capture go to Options > Preferences... and uncheck the option Enable DV device control. Then control the walkman from its own transport controls (i.e., press Play on the walkman and record in Vegas manually)

~jr

Edward Troxel October 12th, 2005 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturnin Kondratiew
UPdate: i got the 6c update and it seems to work....
wow...not sure what that was all about but shouldnt it work right out of the box???

Vegas 6c did include some fixes for capturing issues. It's almost always a good idea to go to the most current version.

Kevin Red October 12th, 2005 06:32 PM

Forgot to mention Nesting.

Save the project.
Open a new Vegas Project.
Find the old Vegas project in the explorer.
Drag that project onto the new projects timeline.
This will connect all clips.

Zach Carter October 13th, 2005 10:15 AM

Weird Artifacting in Vegas
 
I have a very strangle problem with vegas. I am shooting a movie on mini dv. It is 60i footage. I pulled all my footage into vegas and everything ran fine. I edited my clips down to where I liked them and then saved my files. The next time I came back to edit on vegas some of my clips had a weird artifactin problem going on I don't under stand it. This has happened a few times and keeps happening so I was wondering it had happened to anyone else. If you have some advice let me know, thanks.

Here is a picture of what I am talking about.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/28511071541.jpg&s=x10

Thanks again,
Zach

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 13th, 2005 10:41 AM

That looks like DV, not HDV...but it also looks like typical DV dropout.

Zach Carter October 13th, 2005 12:26 PM

That is what I thought but when it was brought in it didn't have that drop out in it. The drop out occured in my PC somewhere. Well really I don't know where it came from.

Jeff Toogood October 13th, 2005 05:54 PM

How can I do this?
 
I am cutting a interview and I just want to spice it up abit.
I want to have a small line across the bottom of the screen that shimmers back and forth, similiar to the windows startup screen.
You know what I am talking about?

James Emory October 13th, 2005 05:56 PM

Premiere has a filter called vertical roll to induce the frame line(s) or sync loss effect. Look for something similar in Vegas. Of course, you could actually record a rewind on an actual deck to get the real thing.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 13th, 2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Toogood
I am cutting a interview and I just want to spice it up abit.
I want to have a small line across the bottom of the screen that shimmers back and forth, similiar to the windows startup screen.
You know what I am talking about?

You could do this a number of ways, but the easiest way would be to create a mask using the Bezier tool, then float a second mask of generated media across it.
I just built one, but it's WAY too big for what you're asking. However, you can probably modify it very easily to be what you want.
Find it at http://www.vasst.com/resource.aspx?i...f-4f300e1c46b0

Sean Seah October 13th, 2005 06:36 PM

Maybe u can use a cookie cutter on the interview track on top, and place the generated media below.The gen media can be set to change progressively.I'm not sure the effect may be a lot less subtle then what u r hoping for with this method.

Otherwise u keyframe the cookie cutter to move?

DJ Kinney October 13th, 2005 09:59 PM

Strange problem with mpegs on my timeline
 
I just posted a question like this in the open forum, but I'm not cross-posting because this is specifically about the Vegas side of the problem. :-)

I just downloaded these video clips from Ares, the P2P file sharing program. I take them and drop them into the timeline and a strange thing happens. While they are the size of the full clip, about 20 megs, they show up in the timeline as only 10 seconds long. I zoom in on the clip, and get the individual frame thumbnails, but check this out...as I scrub the cursor, the thumbnails change.

What I'm saying is that if I hit play, it will play the first 10 seconds of the video and stop. If, however, in the middle of playing the clip, I move the cursor, it will start from a different spot, further on in the clip, though inaccessible to any player.

This problem is consistant with Media Player, PowerDVD, Ares Player, and Vegas.

Any info?

Vince Debart October 14th, 2005 03:53 AM

Monitor help
 
I want to switch to a LCD computer monitor, any recommendations?

Thanks

Vince

Steven Davis October 14th, 2005 06:04 AM

I use this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001185 It's the Samsung 19'', I've been very very happy with it. In general, my lcd is much more pleasing to look at than my CRT's.

Karl Heiner October 14th, 2005 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis
I use this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001185 It's the Samsung 19'', I've been very very happy with it. In general, my lcd is much more pleasing to look at than my CRT's.

hello steven,

just got myself the same monitor. needed about a week to get adjustet to the 19". had 15 for years. nice clear pic. money well spend

greetings

Steven Davis October 14th, 2005 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Heiner
hello steven,

just got myself the same monitor. needed about a week to get adjustet to the 19". had 15 for years. nice clear pic. money well spend

greetings


If my CFO would let me I'd get two more. Instead of my CRT's. One of my CRT's is dying, and when it does, I might get another LCD.

Vince Debart October 14th, 2005 07:44 AM

thanks for the link will check it out...

Vince

Glenn Chan October 14th, 2005 08:03 AM

You might want to check hot deals sites for a deal on something like Dell computer monitors. It's more bang for your buck (compared to buying at newegg.com prices I think) when they're on sale.

Don Donatello October 14th, 2005 10:05 AM

Gearshift ?
 
question on gearshift?

does gearshift convert the files to cineforms "direct show" version file or "video for windows" version file ?

from cineform site:
Vegas only uses the Video for Windows version of the CineForm codec while HDLink uses the DirectShow version. The DirectShow version is a bit more sophisticated about the manner in which we can code our files, so we get approximately a 30% reduction in file size with HDLink. These smaller files also perform "faster" on the Vegas timeline. There is no quality disadvantage with the VfW codec, and the bitstreams are 100% compatible.

Edward Troxel October 14th, 2005 10:45 AM

Gearshift simply does the exact same thing as you manually choosing File - Render As in Vegas. It's a script that runs in Vegas that automates the process for you. So, if Vegas uses the "Video for Windows" version, Gearshift will too as it uses Vegas to do the rendering.

Matt Howell October 14th, 2005 10:53 AM

Edit: I got distracted while writing my reply and Edward already answered the question.

Vasst Gearshift is a script (a very useful script, but just a script) that runs in Vegas, automating Vegas functions. So, it has no additional abilities above what Vegas can do. The bottom line is, Gearshift creates vfw (video for windows) CineForm avi files using version 2.1 of the CineForm codec because that is the version of CineForm included in Vegas 6.0c.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 15th, 2005 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Howell
Edit: I got distracted while writing my reply and Edward already answered the question.

Vasst Gearshift is a script (a very useful script, but just a script) that runs in Vegas, automating Vegas functions. So, it has no additional abilities above what Vegas can do. The bottom line is, Gearshift creates vfw (video for windows) CineForm avi files using version 2.1 of the CineForm codec because that is the version of CineForm included in Vegas 6.0c.

In terms of the render, this is true. However, in the process of the render, we're also applying ITU 709 colorspace correction to the proxy, as well as the ShiftGears function, which is where the main value in Gearshift lies. It also allows you to render from regional selections and rippling, therefore only rendering what you've selected.

Also as pointed out, GearShift uses Vegas' backbone to render the files, therefore the output is VfW and not DirectShow.

Since (as Edward and Matt pointed out) GearShift is a script, it can only access tools Vegas already has built in. However, replacing/swapping out media, applying colorspace correction, properly converting to progressive, rendering multi-formats in sequence, shifting framerates, selecting media from Timeline, Bins, or Explorer, are all huge timesavers, which is all scripting really is. A monster timesaver, and somewhat of a preventative measure, as to do all of these things repetitively and consistently is a challenge in and of itself.

In short, GearShift does a little more than just the "exact same thing as choosing File>Render As." Actually, quite a bit more.

Edward Troxel October 15th, 2005 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle
In short, GearShift does a little more than just the "exact same thing as choosing File>Render As." Actually, quite a bit more.

Spot, I didn't mean to imply that it does not automate the process of doing more things before and after actually creating the files. I know it's a very useful tool that helps simplify the process and has many time saving features beyond simply "rendering". I just meant the process of actually creating the file is the same as doing a "File - Render As" meaning the the file will be vfw and not directX as asked in the question.

Laurence Kingston October 15th, 2005 10:31 AM

The couple of VASST scripts that I have (Ultimate-S and Gearshift) are just so incredibly valuable to what I do, it would be hard to imagine using Vegas without them!

Matt Howell October 15th, 2005 01:44 PM

I'd just like to add that I also find Gearshift to be a valuable tool. In short, I wouldn't attempt to edit HD in Vegas without it or an alternative. I use a slower system to edit and HDV on the timeline in Vegas 6 is just painful. Since all my projects are SD DVD I have been making DV widescreen proxies, editing those, and then switching back to the original m2t's for final render. I'm also going try creating CineForm files with Gearshift and do the final render from those. Also, don't forget that Gearshift can be modified to create any kind of proxy or editing file you want to work with. You could use it in a SD project to automate switching between DV and SD YUV, DV50, or MJPEG, etc.

Jeremy Rochefort October 16th, 2005 10:29 AM

This is so frustrating!!!!
 
This is frustrating. I keep getting the following error:
Sony Vegas 6.0
Version 6.0c (Build 153)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) WRITE:0x0 IP:0x2AB31708
Thread: ProgMan ID=0x3C8 Stack=0x2DED000-0x2DF0000
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=001b EIP=2ab31708 EFLGS=00010216
EBX=00000013 SS=0023 ESP=02ded610 EBP=206ce038
ECX=2ab31708 DS=0023 ESI=0065f210 FS=003b
EDX=00000002 ES=0023 EDI=2ab31708 GS=0000


I have captured from my HDV (Z1 and FX1) and have created a 7520x576 widescreen project for delivery to DVD. The HDV files were converted using Cineform's Connect HD and have been working with these files.

Yesterday, when rendering, I had no problem. Did a few cosmetic changes to a short (about 5 minutes) and tried rendering again. Ever since then, I have been having the above problem and I have no idea where everything is going pear shaped.

I have tried rendering to avi, wmv, mpeg2 - you name it - I always get this error and never in the same place while rendering.

Any help here would be appreciated.

Cheers

Patrick Courtnage October 16th, 2005 04:27 PM

Video Sequences in vegas?
 
Can vegas have seperate video sequences in the same project file like in Premiere Pro. A sequence would be like cutting a many clips together and then you can put that sequence in to a master clip or something. Any comments would be great. Thx!

Jim Montgomery October 16th, 2005 05:01 PM

You can use nested sequences, here is the best article on the subject.

http://www.vasst.com/resource.aspx?i...6-f65a2f28da5d

Jim

Patrick Courtnage October 16th, 2005 05:21 PM

Awesome
This is exactly what I want

Herman Chen October 16th, 2005 09:40 PM

Capturing to tape, trouble
 
Hi,

I have just finished my video and I want to capture it back to mini dv via firewire through my camera. Well, I did. And when I play it back, whether on the camera, or on the TV, it skips at certain points. The audio skips. I did this on a tape that stuff was on. I also captured on a brand new minidv tape. But it still doesn't come out flawless. I've checked wire connections and I made sure everything was plugged in correctly, but still to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.

DJ Kinney October 16th, 2005 10:35 PM

It's your computer. After I upgraded to Vegas 6, I have never been able to get a clean "print to tape" on my old computer. It has skips and stutters.

Make sure you are defragged and ALL, and I mean ALL of the programs are shut down in the background. No messengers, to Google Desktop. Nothin'.

Then try it again, and I'll bet things will be better.

DJ

Jeremy Rochefort October 17th, 2005 10:53 AM

Speed freaks beware!!
 
Sadly - no response. BUT!! I've solved the problem and post my findings here to warn others against the same fate.

Never, I repeat NEVER, overclock your system which has Serial ATA hard drives installed. No amount of defragging, reducing system resources or anything else will work. Your system will work beautifully fast and flawless - just don't try and render!!!!

SATA drives are very sensitive to changes in the SRC clock and changing your ram or bus frequencies or other settings also influence the SRC clock - which as you have all guessed, was the cause of my problem. I do believe the later versions of SATA drives are not as easily affected but your mobo needs to the latest and greatest as well otherwise you wind up in the same boat.

Good luck to all!

Cheers

Reid Bailey October 17th, 2005 11:09 AM

Thanks for the heads up!

Danny Jones October 17th, 2005 02:33 PM

How mask background only
 
I have video footage that I just want to saturate the background only and leave the subject as is but not sure how to accomplish this...can someone point me in right direction.

Herman Chen October 17th, 2005 03:17 PM

Thanks, it worked

Glenn Chan October 17th, 2005 06:47 PM

1- It might be easiest to shoot this as a green screen. Composite the subject over the background.

You would need to shoot a good green screen though.

There may be other ways to shoot this so you don't have to rotoscope (rotoscoping can be time consuming). i.e. change the subject's costume to be very (un)saturated, and use secondary color correction on the face to increase its saturation. Then affect overall saturation.

2- You could rotoscope the subject out of the background. This is not too painful because you want to affect color information. Your eye has less resolution for color than for brightness. So if you are messy with the rotoscope, it's ok.

In Vegas, you can kind of use the masking tool to cut out the foreground subject. If the subject moves too much, it's a little faster to use a dedicated compositing program like Combustion (but it would still be a tedious, time-consuming process).

3- You might be able to pull a difference key, although that can be tricky. Not sure how to do this in Vegas.

Peter Jefferson October 17th, 2005 09:54 PM

i thought it may have been the ridiculous resolutions of 7520x576... lol

i am a nutter for OC'ing a PC and ive never had problems..

DJ Kinney October 18th, 2005 02:51 AM

Damn I'm good. :-)

Fred Foronda October 18th, 2005 02:27 PM

Vegas 6b/c
 
Whats the difference between 6b and 6c. I've been reading a lot and 6c is always mentioned never 6b. I have 6b do I need 6c?

Thanks

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 18th, 2005 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Foronda
Whats the difference between 6b and 6c. I've been reading a lot and 6c is always mentioned never 6b. I have 6b do I need 6c?

Thanks

The differences are significant.
http://www.vasst.com/resource.aspx?i...e-e49570d837fa has a listing and explanation of what's new, and downloads to experiment with new features.
Yes, you'll want to upgrade to Vegas 6c.


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