DV Info Net

DV Info Net (https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/)
-   What Happens in Vegas... (https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-happens-vegas/)
-   -   Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4) (https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-happens-vegas/4092-vegas-video-discussions-2005-q3q4.html)

Ian Stark November 2nd, 2005 06:08 AM

Update:

The QuadCam feature of Ultimate S seems to be precisely what I'm looking for so I guess my question is answered!

Edward Troxel November 2nd, 2005 01:20 PM

There are multiple ways to do multi-cam either manually or via a script. Take a look at Vol 1 #9 of my newsletters to see several various methods.

Michael Estepp November 3rd, 2005 02:00 AM

audio
 
Not really sure what subject this post falls under. I filmed a movie with a crappy microphone and the dialogue sounds very tiny... not a lot of bass. Has anyone found a good way to counter this?

Ian Stark November 3rd, 2005 02:37 AM

Edward, thank you. That's an extremely useful article. I realise (somewhat sheepishly) that I have, in fact, already read it some time back!

Of course for the sake of completeness (and assuming modesty prevented you from mentioning it yourself!) I must now also take a look at Excalibur which has multiple camera editing tools as well.

Edward Troxel November 3rd, 2005 08:14 AM

At the time the article was written, Excalibur was the only scripting option for Multi-cam. Now Ultimate S also adds multi-cam editing to Vegas as well. Check them both out as they both have 15 day free trials.

John Rofrano November 3rd, 2005 08:32 AM

You would have to route the output of the Keyrig to one of the Mona outputs that is not being used to monitor the mix (i.e., not channel 1 or 2 assuming this is a stereo mix). Then physically attach a 1/4" patch cable from that output back into one of the analog inputs. Finally record that analog input in Vegas 5.

I don’t have a Mona so I don’t know if this type of routing is possible right within the Mona’s software control panel, but I have an M-Audio Firewire 410 and this is the only way I’ve found to do this with the FW410.

~jr

John Rofrano November 3rd, 2005 08:40 AM

It is hard to put back what was not recorded, but I would start with using the Track EQ and boosting the bass and see what you get. You might also try and add some compression via the Track Compressor to make what is there sound fuller. Then get a better microphone for next time. ;-)

~jr

Bill Grant November 3rd, 2005 01:36 PM

Widescreen
 
Ok,
So this latest project I am delivering tommorrow goes to a guy with a plasma HD tv. Is there a way for me to render a standard aspet project shot with standard aspect that will look decent on a widescreen? If this is a stupid question just check my status (New Boot) that will tell you how much I know...

Bill Grant
www.grantphotovideo.com

Edward Troxel November 3rd, 2005 02:41 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=48689

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=46361

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=39395

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=35105

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=50579

You can simply do a search on "widescreen" for many more hits.

Michael Liebergot November 3rd, 2005 03:35 PM

How do I use track compression in Vegas 6?
Can I compress the audio in Soundofrge 6?

Edward Troxel November 3rd, 2005 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Liebergot
How do I use track compression in Vegas 6?

The audio track header should already have a compressor effect on it. Just open the dialog, pick one of the presets, and make any other adjustments as needed. If you have other compressors installed, they can be used.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Liebergot
Can I compress the audio in Soundofrge 6?

Yes

Bill Grant November 3rd, 2005 04:02 PM

Well, there you go...
 
Sorry, I knew as soon as I posted that I should have searched first. Thanks, that was perfect...

Bill

Michael Liebergot November 4th, 2005 08:01 AM

Mixing HDV and DV footage in Vegas
 
I am going to be either picking up a Sony A1U or an FX1 to shoot weddings with along with my VX2100, and Canon GL1 (CYA cam). The HDV cam would trun into my primary cam and the VX2100 would be secondary wide angle cutaway cam.

I would shoot in HD and downconvert (using GearShift) to either a proxy or intermediary codec (Cineform) for editing in Sony Veags 6c.

My question is, when I am mixing both HDV (Proxy of Cineform) and DV footage on the same timeline, which project setting should I be using for the editing (DV template for DVD, which would be the final destination or HDV template)?
Keeping in mind that my final destination for this will be standard MPEG2 for DVD.

I would like to take full advantage of the added resolution from the HDV footage to zoom in a cop the picture even better. I do know that doing this would unfortuantely add considerably to my render time.

Eventually, once there is a mainstream delivery format for DVD and editing and delivery can be done in less time, I will only be shoting with HDV cams of the same brand at least.
So if I get an A1U then I would get the same or at least an FX1. I would still keep my VX2100 for emergencies, but obviously sell my GL1 for funds to purchase the new HDV camera.

Thanks for the feedback
Michael

John Wheeler November 4th, 2005 10:49 AM

Huge image in vegas
 
I'm trying to import an image that is roughly 7,000 X 5,000. I need that resolution because i will be zooming in very close to image. When I try to render the video, it has an error and says something like "your system is low on memory"

is there a limit to the size of an image that vegas can handle and/or is there a trick to bring in large images?

thanks

j.

Edward Troxel November 4th, 2005 11:19 AM

What version of Vegas are you running?

I don't know of a specified limit within the documentation but I do know others have had the same problem with larger files.

John Wheeler November 4th, 2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel
What version of Vegas are you running?

I don't know of a specified limit within the documentation but I do know others have had the same problem with larger files.

It's the latest version 6c

j

Dan Barnhill November 4th, 2005 02:38 PM

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the suggestions.

John, you made my friggin day man. Works perfectly. Mona 5/6s outs to the Mona 1/2 ins.

Thanks.

Dan

Edward Troxel November 4th, 2005 02:48 PM

Anything you can do to reduce the size will help. You can also try reducing the RAM Preview amount if you've changed that back to the default.

Ian Stark November 5th, 2005 03:22 AM

John, this may not be the effect you're after but I had a similar problem a while back with a large image.

To overcome the issue I created a lower res version of the entire image and placed that on one track. I then created an image at full res from just the section I wanted to enlarge, placed that on a second (higher) track and sized it so that it looked as though it was part of the full image.

At the point where I wanted to zoom I moved the focus to the full res image to fill the screen and continued to zoom in until I hit the desired point in the picture. I also slightly defocused the lower res image and the edges of the higher res portion as I panned, which helped with the illusion.

It worked reasonably well but obviously wasn't a replacement for simply zooming in on a single picture. If you have multiple points to zoom to I suspect it would also be a bit complicated!

I have been looking for the veg file but for some reason I can't find it (I lost a 250gb external drive earlier this year - sigh - I suspect that's where it is).

John Rofrano November 5th, 2005 09:43 AM

You’re welcome. Sometimes we get so focused on doing everything in the computer, we forget that a simple patch cable might be the solution. ;-)

~jr

Ron Evans November 5th, 2005 12:02 PM

Until you actually go HDV for everything( all cameras) you could downconvert in camera ( capture to DV ) and just carry on as you would for DV editing. That is what I have done with my FX1 when mixed with other DV cameras. Saves a lot of time and you still have the original HDV tape to use in the future.

Ron Evans

Dan Measel November 5th, 2005 02:37 PM

Help! I lost my scrub bar
 
Something has happened to my Vegas 6. The scrub panel on the lower part of the timeline (you know where you can size the events and scrub through them) has disappeared. The vertical one is there but looks odd. This is crippling my editing ability. Anyone have any suggestions how to get that back? Reboots have been unsuccessful.

Thanks

Edward Troxel November 5th, 2005 03:02 PM

Did you change your XP Windows theme? If you put it on the default theme does it come back?

Dan Measel November 5th, 2005 03:29 PM

I didn't change anything. I had just finished capturing a massive video file until my hardrive was nearly full. I then opened V6 and it froze, wouldn't open (an unusual occurrence). So I rebooted the computer and when I opened V6 I had lost the scrub bar. Should I just uninstall and then reinstall it? I switched back to Vegas 4 for the current project and it works fine.

Kevin Brown November 5th, 2005 07:52 PM

Every 3 frames...
 
my exported avi is interlaced for 2 frames then deinterlaced for 3, and the pattern continues, producing a vibrating effect. My original footage is 60i, and I'm going for 24p.

Project properties:

Frame rate: 23.976
Motion blur type: gaussian
Deinterlace method: blend fields
Ruler time format: 23.976

Smart resampling and 'reduce interlace flicker' are both on.

When I go to export, I select NTSC DV 24p: 2-3 pulldown

What am I doing wrong here? Should I keep the project settings at 29.97 until I export?

Also, when I eventually convert to MPEG-2, should I use 23.976 as the frame rate, or continue to use 29.97, seeing as the exported avi is in a 29.97 shell?

Help computer.

Edward Troxel November 5th, 2005 09:34 PM

I would first try holding down CTRL-SHIFT while opening Vegas 6. This reverts it back to "default" settings.

Jeff Toogood November 6th, 2005 07:29 AM

Making the background completely white
 
Did a small segment yesterday shooting an interview against a solid white background. We lit the scene the best we could and it looked fine on the LCD and monitor. However I have noticed that the top corner of the background has some light fallout. How can I make the entire background pure white?
I have played around with the glow and it works well for the background, but not the look I want for the subject.
Is there an easy way to cut out the subject and place him on a seperate track and then apply glow to the background?

Thanks

Graham Bernard November 6th, 2005 08:17 AM

Jeff you are welcome to send me sample and I will see what I can do. Apart from anything else I'll, be able to see what you mean.

Grazie

Robin Davies-Rollinson November 6th, 2005 08:48 AM

Jeff, you could add the shot again but above on the timeline, then move the frame until you get the area you need pure white from and then you can just apply a soft-edge wipe to matte it in.
I don't know Vegas, but the technique is the same - unless you have a clone tool available?

Robin

Jeff Toogood November 6th, 2005 10:44 AM

Here is a screenshot, it is kind of hard to see, but the top right hand side is not as white as the rest of the background
http://www.digitaliso.ca/Image8.jpg

Graham Bernard November 6th, 2005 10:57 AM

Well, I tried chroma-keying out as much of the b/g as poss. I then replaced the b/g with Vegas solid "white". If you want it I can email to you? Up to you. - G

Graham Bernard November 6th, 2005 11:47 AM

Hmmm . . the other thing I notice is that YOUR background is not WHITE. Well it might appear that way . . but I suppose you aren't "too" fussy about the white? Well, if this IS the case there is another way.

What I then did was duplicate the track above, and selected an lump of "whitish" area - this I chose the piece to the left of the chap. Then I made a Bezier mask of THAT area and then moved this area over to the RIGHT side of the picture. Using careful and subtle use of feather and colour corrector I think I've blended IN an area of this whiter "paint . .as it were. I think It kinda works. I'll do a Vegas grab of this and have it ready - if you want it?

You have probably realised that the problem you've got is that your backgrounds is not evenly non-white, so I needed to make a matching "blend" that would mask the greying area, in a gradual way . . yeah? I think the BEzier approach works better than the Chromakeying . . .

Grazie

Graham Bernard November 6th, 2005 11:59 AM

Yes, Robin, this is exactly what you can do I Vegas - no "clone" tool, but Bezier yes. . . I just read your post. Above is my approach which is an "echo" of what you say. G

Magnus Helander November 6th, 2005 04:27 PM

Workflow: Vegas -> Sorenson -> Streaming host
 
I think Sorenson has the worst customer support and I'm ready to go to Cleaner any day. Today, however, the Sorenson Squeeze app really impressed me.

We host our streams on a streaming server (Akamai) and it was always a three step process to get the files up there, 1. Render from vegas, 2. Encode in sorenson, 3. FTP upload.

Today I right-clicked a job in Sorenson and found "assign additional tasks" and "Copy to FTP" under tasks. This in combination with the Squeeeze Watch folder feature over our Gigabit LAN means...

1. Export from Vegas on Editing box to the watchfolder on the Sorenson encoder box
2. Squeeze kicks in immediately and starts encoding whatever it finds in the watch folder.
3. When Squeeze finishes it uploads to the streaming server automagically.

Summary: Flash 8 (and everything else) from the Vegas timeline!
Sweet!

Also noticed that o2 has a Flash 8 Video Exporter http://www.on2.com/support-resources...xporter_Basic/
Anyone tried this with vegas?

/magnus

Gregory Doi November 6th, 2005 05:11 PM

render problems
 
hey guys,

I've been doing a weekly TV series here in Hawaii. I recently started noticing a problem in Vegas. Sometimes to do a preview for the producer ill do a prerender on the whole project. When this is done the normal blue bars show up above the timeline. However, i find that if i make any changes anywhere in the timeline, all the blue bars disappear.

Let me clarify. If I make a change to the credits at the end, the blue bars dissappear from the beginning of the timline, for instance the intro and all the way down. so theres no blue bars left. This means that when finalize the project I gotta re-render all over again.

Thanks,

Greg

Darryl Grob November 6th, 2005 05:26 PM

Missing NEC 3250 fixed by Sony
 
My new AMD dual-core, NVidia, NEC 3250 problem with DVDA3 and V6c has been successfully resolved by Sony. 3 new *dll files were required in both DVDA and Vegas, but all functions in both applications have been verified by me. Some of you were victims of this configuration, contact Sony Support.

Darryl

Edward Troxel November 6th, 2005 09:14 PM

Glad to hear a resolution was found.

Phil French November 6th, 2005 09:22 PM

Yes, bless you!

Steve Crisdale November 7th, 2005 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregory Doi
hey guys,

I've been doing a weekly TV series here in Hawaii. I recently started noticing a problem in Vegas. Sometimes to do a preview for the producer ill do a prerender on the whole project. When this is done the normal blue bars show up above the timeline. However, i find that if i make any changes anywhere in the timeline, all the blue bars disappear.

Let me clarify. If I make a change to the credits at the end, the blue bars dissappear from the beginning of the timline, for instance the intro and all the way down. so theres no blue bars left. This means that when finalize the project I gotta re-render all over again.

Thanks,

Greg

Not sure I'm totally following what you're meaning...

Are you saying that after you make a change - only the clip/effect that has been changed renders?

The 'blue bars' above the media in the timeline are the "loop region" and if you have "render loop region only" selected in your "render as" options, then only that region will render for you...

It's pretty easy to make the loop region as long or as short as you desire... You can manually drag either of the yellow triangular markers (at left and right of the blue bar) to where-ever you want.

To render the whole project every time you render - turn off "render loop region only".

To render only a specific region, turn on "render loop region only", and use the yellow 'flags' to set the loop region.

I hope that's what you're after...

Fred Finn November 7th, 2005 12:23 PM

Joystick functionality in vegas
 
I did a search and found nothing so here it goes. What does enabling joystick support really do? I plugged on in and nothing, I checked external controls but that seems to be all stuff for midi.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:23 PM.

DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2025 The Digital Video Information Network