Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Gary Kleiner · September 13th, 2005, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Costa

How can I add tone to a colorbar leader in Vegas ??

You can create a sine wave tone in Sound Forge, if you have it.

In Vegas, if you are using Print to DV tape, the bars and tone are built in as options during this process.

Gary

Gary Kleiner · September 13th, 2005, 12:20 AM

If you are getting 100 discs made, you will want to have them replicated (not burned).

In DVDA, double click on your media file so that you see it in the timeline window. At the top of the Media Properties window choose End Actions and set the Destination to be the same media file.

Gary

Rob Lohman · September 13th, 2005, 03:54 AM

Jason: welcome aboard (H)DVInfo.net! You've posted the question in the right
place (thanks!) but you may want to try more informative titles next time. This
way people are more inclined to look inside. Instead of seeing a general one
like you've chosen. In this case an example good be:

"Architect 2 menu's look brown?"

If you want I can still rename it for you (I didn't already because you might have
trouble finding your post if you don't know someone has renamed it).

Thanks and enjoy your stay!

Glenn Chan · September 13th, 2005, 06:27 AM

Audacity can generate it too. Audacity is open source (as in, more or less free).

Standard levels are -12dBFS (for consumer formats), -18 for PAL, -20 for pro video formats (i.e. digibeta). For analog formats, tone should hit 0 VU.

And then you have to set program levels in relation to tone.

Bob Costa · September 13th, 2005, 07:59 AM

Thanks Gary, SF did the trick. Sure wish Vegas had just added that feature. After all, it is an audio editor, right??? :)

Now I wish I could figure out why one little section of my commercial goes to +3.5db for a second or two. Compressor does not seem to be able to trap it. It's always something.

James Emory · September 13th, 2005, 12:11 PM

The effect your talking about is done in these commercials by a DV Info'er, John Britt.

Demos:
www.karatemedia.com/video/jomo.wmv

www.karatemedia.com/video/theatre.wmv

www.karatemedia.com/video/commercials.html

Glenn Chan · September 13th, 2005, 03:48 PM

Bob, try this:

A- Always play from the start of your project, because the compressors are time-dependent and will give a different effect if you start later.

B- Make the attack a lot shorter. Attack is the delay the compressor takes before it kicks into action. Sometimes you want a long delay, so there's more dynamics in music. But in this case you want a very fast attack (and probably a very fast release too).

Fred Foronda · September 13th, 2005, 04:53 PM

If my work was printed to tape on 720p and later is viewed on LCD or plasma hdtv with a native resolution of 1080 will it look the same as viewing it on a screen with a native res of 720?

thanks

Brian Kennedy · September 13th, 2005, 07:47 PM

Also, keep in mind you can save and recall your workspace setups. Once you have it set the way you want, hit CTRL-ALT-D and then a number. After that, hitting ALT-D followed by the number will recall that workspace. This is really useful if you're like me and you prefer different workspaces for editing audio versus editing video.

Emre Safak · September 13th, 2005, 08:10 PM

Has anyone been able to create AC3s in mono using Vegas? If so, what settings did you use? I have some dialog recorded in mono, and I hate to waste bandwidth on a non-existent channel. I tried using both stereo and mono sources.

Emre Safak · September 13th, 2005, 08:18 PM

I figured it out, but I can not delete this thread! Oh well, for those of you wondering: you need to create a surround project and pan the sound to the center channel. I thought using a mono file would do the trick but it did not.

Dave Largent · September 13th, 2005, 10:01 PM

I did it a long time ago in Vegas but forgot how.
I know there is somewhere you have to type in
"60" where that option does not exist as a pre-set.
(Did a search here but couldn't come up with the
info.)
How do I convert 60i to 60p?

Isaac Kim · September 13th, 2005, 10:31 PM

Hi all,

First of all thanks to all (especially Edward) for responding to my Vegas questions.

I have a .wmv file that I want to edit in Vegas and then make a DVD of.

When I drag it into Vegas, the audio shows up OK, but the video is all blacked out. Anything format I tried to render in results in all black video.

When I play the .wmv file in WinAmp, the video shows up no problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Isaac

Peter Jefferson · September 14th, 2005, 12:14 AM

make sure u have windows media 9 or above installed.. in vegas drag the piece to the timeline and render out to dv avi,
from here you should see all frames.. so long as u have mediaplayer9 installed..
also turn off the microsoft codecs within vegas

if u try render wmv into any other format those black frames will be embedded to the actual output. avi is the only way to get full frames

the black frames u see are compression, which vegas sometimes latches onto, which is why u see the blacks more than the actual frames.. i dont know how or why, but it doesnt interpolate between the dead compression frames... i guess it can still recognise the frame rate so it leaves it..
Might be an idea to change the frame rate to force interpolation??
Youll need to experiment.

during playback, you SHOULDNT see these black frames at al unless ur scrubbing backwards.. (Mpg would behave the same way)

Peter Jefferson · September 14th, 2005, 12:20 AM

go into your project settings, switch it to 60 and turn on interpolation, now turn on progressive..

the only output option u really have with this though is Sony YUV or Uncompressed.. i dont see wy youd need 60p unless ur source material was 60p...

September 13th, 2005, 03:54 AM	#648
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Jason: welcome aboard (H)DVInfo.net! You've posted the question in the right place (thanks!) but you may want to try more informative titles next time. This way people are more inclined to look inside. Instead of seeing a general one like you've chosen. In this case an example good be: "Architect 2 menu's look brown?" If you want I can still rename it for you (I didn't already because you might have trouble finding your post if you don't know someone has renamed it). Thanks and enjoy your stay! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 13th, 2005, 07:59 AM	#650
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Thanks Gary, SF did the trick. Sure wish Vegas had just added that feature. After all, it is an audio editor, right??? :) Now I wish I could figure out why one little section of my commercial goes to +3.5db for a second or two. Compressor does not seem to be able to trap it. It's always something. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

September 13th, 2005, 04:53 PM	#653
Fred Foronda Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 337	720p If my work was printed to tape on 720p and later is viewed on LCD or plasma hdtv with a native resolution of 1080 will it look the same as viewing it on a screen with a native res of 720? thanks

September 13th, 2005, 07:47 PM	#654
Brian Kennedy Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 126	Also, keep in mind you can save and recall your workspace setups. Once you have it set the way you want, hit CTRL-ALT-D and then a number. After that, hitting ALT-D followed by the number will recall that workspace. This is really useful if you're like me and you prefer different workspaces for editing audio versus editing video. __________________ Brian Kennedy

September 13th, 2005, 08:10 PM	#655
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Mono AC3s created by Vegas 6 do not work Has anyone been able to create AC3s in mono using Vegas? If so, what settings did you use? I have some dialog recorded in mono, and I hate to waste bandwidth on a non-existent channel. I tried using both stereo and mono sources.

September 13th, 2005, 12:20 AM	#647
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	If you are getting 100 discs made, you will want to have them replicated (not burned). In DVDA, double click on your media file so that you see it in the timeline window. At the top of the Media Properties window choose End Actions and set the Destination to be the same media file. Gary

September 13th, 2005, 06:27 AM	#649
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Audacity can generate it too. Audacity is open source (as in, more or less free). Standard levels are -12dBFS (for consumer formats), -18 for PAL, -20 for pro video formats (i.e. digibeta). For analog formats, tone should hit 0 VU. And then you have to set program levels in relation to tone.

September 13th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#651
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	The effect your talking about is done in these commercials by a DV Info'er, John Britt. Demos: www.karatemedia.com/video/jomo.wmv www.karatemedia.com/video/theatre.wmv www.karatemedia.com/video/commercials.html

September 13th, 2005, 03:48 PM	#652
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Bob, try this: A- Always play from the start of your project, because the compressors are time-dependent and will give a different effect if you start later. B- Make the attack a lot shorter. Attack is the delay the compressor takes before it kicks into action. Sometimes you want a long delay, so there's more dynamics in music. But in this case you want a very fast attack (and probably a very fast release too).

September 13th, 2005, 08:18 PM	#656
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	I figured it out, but I can not delete this thread! Oh well, for those of you wondering: you need to create a surround project and pan the sound to the center channel. I thought using a mono file would do the trick but it did not.

September 13th, 2005, 10:01 PM	#657
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	60i to 60p: How to? I did it a long time ago in Vegas but forgot how. I know there is somewhere you have to type in "60" where that option does not exist as a pre-set. (Did a search here but couldn't come up with the info.) How do I convert 60i to 60p?

September 13th, 2005, 10:31 PM	#658
Isaac Kim New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 20	Starting with a wmv file Hi all, First of all thanks to all (especially Edward) for responding to my Vegas questions. I have a .wmv file that I want to edit in Vegas and then make a DVD of. When I drag it into Vegas, the audio shows up OK, but the video is all blacked out. Anything format I tried to render in results in all black video. When I play the .wmv file in WinAmp, the video shows up no problem. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Isaac

September 14th, 2005, 12:14 AM	#659
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	make sure u have windows media 9 or above installed.. in vegas drag the piece to the timeline and render out to dv avi, from here you should see all frames.. so long as u have mediaplayer9 installed.. also turn off the microsoft codecs within vegas if u try render wmv into any other format those black frames will be embedded to the actual output. avi is the only way to get full frames the black frames u see are compression, which vegas sometimes latches onto, which is why u see the blacks more than the actual frames.. i dont know how or why, but it doesnt interpolate between the dead compression frames... i guess it can still recognise the frame rate so it leaves it.. Might be an idea to change the frame rate to force interpolation?? Youll need to experiment. during playback, you SHOULDNT see these black frames at al unless ur scrubbing backwards.. (Mpg would behave the same way)

September 14th, 2005, 12:20 AM	#660
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	go into your project settings, switch it to 60 and turn on interpolation, now turn on progressive.. the only output option u really have with this though is Sony YUV or Uncompressed.. i dont see wy youd need 60p unless ur source material was 60p...