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Edward Troxel November 6th, 2013 12:37 PM

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I did this with ColorFast:

Didn't want to "brighten" it too much but you can definitely see the faces now. Of course, you could easily go further and I actually lowered the brightness on the blown out background too.

Juris Lielpeteris November 6th, 2013 12:46 PM

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The same with Sony Color curves:

Chris Harding November 6th, 2013 07:18 PM

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Thanks Guys

ColourFast seems like a worthwhile plugin to get !

Chris

Graham Bernard November 7th, 2013 12:14 PM

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Hi Chris, check out David McKnight's FAB NewBlue ColorFast Tutorial. Pure VooDoo.......


Chris Harding November 8th, 2013 12:24 AM

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Thanks

Very informative but quite pricey at $129 just for a plugin I thought?

I'll have to give the trial version a run and then compare it with using Vegas only which still does a great job..it's only one ot two at most that give me the problem!!

Chris

Graham Bernard November 8th, 2013 01:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Harding (Post 1819863)
Very informative but quite pricey at $129 just for a plugin I thought

Would you have paid $86.59? I did. How? I've signed up with New Blue and have them get me their news on OFFERS! I did this in Feb this year.

My Edit Day-Rate dictates I need swift results. I saw the ColorFast demo; had already signed up with NB, along with a mass of other 3rd party pluggers, to get in front of the offer train so when the CF offer came out - CardTime!

Plugs? It's what Vegas Pro has evolved into becoming capable of using. It wasn't always the case! Nu-uh . . . . . Consequently, not to take/make use of its 21st Century abilities is fighting with one hand tied behind your back all the time. However, I do understand. If you can get close to getting a result with Vegas then leave well alone and have more lenient delivery times go for it.

The "other" advantage of/with using 3rd Party plugs is a creative one: While I am thinking of the next scene or flow or movement, CF or any well constructed Plug will get me to it or have delivered what I want so I don't loose my train of thought or urgency with the main job of the editing process - hopefully making/creating engaging videos.

Cheers

Grazie

Graham Bernard November 8th, 2013 02:32 AM

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Chris, do look at the following NB Tutorials for something along the lines of your needs explained in Colorfast.


Justin Molush November 13th, 2013 01:00 PM

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Just as a side-note, if you have access to AE, that can be used as a very advanced color correction tool as well. Check the attached image for a quick shot on my end done with native tools in a few minutes (Exposure, Levels, Curves, and Hue adjustment since the grooms face got very red after the initial curves boost).

Curves Shadow Boost -> Exposure Highlight Recovery -> Localized Subject Curves + Levels + Hue/Desat -> General Curves overall

The same procedure could be applied without running mattes as well, but you would have harsher background clipping as you wouldnt have that localized adjustment and the focus would be getting the front subjects up to par.

Juris Lielpeteris November 14th, 2013 02:18 PM

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Justin, very nice result, but hard to build.
There Vegas + AAV ColorLab (freeware):

Richard Jones November 15th, 2013 04:54 AM

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Juris,

Would you like to explain how you did this please. I've had mixed results with AAV ColourLab and certainly nothing as good as this. Thank you.

Richard

Chris Harding November 15th, 2013 06:53 AM

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Hi Richard

The one secret is to invert the image so it looks negative ..the CC works far better with the image inverted.

What you do is add a Sony Invert and push the slider to max ..then add you CC or AAV Plugin and finally add a second Sony Invert pushed to maximum so the image is inverted a second time and is correct.

In that order the CC is being applied to the inverted image where it does a lot better and then the corrected image (but still inverted) is then inverted back again to normal.

I found that trick on a lady called Eugenia's Vegas site!

Chris

Juris Lielpeteris November 15th, 2013 10:49 AM

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Hi, Richard!
There is project of Vegas Pro 12
Image from here http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...ml#post1819522

Richard Jones November 16th, 2013 05:42 AM

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Hi Chris and thank you. I'll give that a go although, for me, the Vegas adjustments can often be applied straight without inversion but this looks a useful trick to have in the bag.

My real problems come with the AAV Plug In which I seem to have more difficulty with. Which link are you referring to on this page Juris? I don't seem to be able to open your zip file either as Vegas Pro 12 can't find it..

Thank you.

Richard.

Juris Lielpeteris November 16th, 2013 08:28 AM

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The first piture by Chris Harding, attachment in #13, named backlight.jpg.

David Johns November 23rd, 2013 12:27 PM

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I couldn't resist having a go, more out of curiosity than of any claim to be good at it...

Both attempts done in Vegas Pro 12 using its built-in colour curves etc

First one is Colour Corrector + Colour Curves (twice) plus a mask
Second one is just plain ol' Vegas Fill Light


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