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Edward Troxel August 19th, 2003 02:53 PM

They are being released by Zenote. No dates given yet - still in beta.

Dave Largent August 19th, 2003 05:22 PM

Titles "Being Written" Effect
 
Hi,
I work with Vegas 4. I'm trying to create titles that appear that
they are being written out in long-hand while the viewer is watching. Anyone know how to do this?
Dave.

Harry Settle August 19th, 2003 07:14 PM

Someone else might have a better solution, but, I seem to remember a veg file at the sundance site that allowed you to do this.

Glen Elliott August 19th, 2003 07:54 PM

Previewing to external monitor- what a surprise!
 
I just finished editing the first part (ceremony) of the most recent wedding video I'm working on. I decided to break out the camera tonight and connect it to an external monitor (television) to see how it looks. Let me tell you...I'm glad I did!
It looked terrible, the colors looked so good in the monitor window on my computer but turned out too rich (too dark and overly saturated) on the TV monitor. About 80% of my footage needed HSL adjustments along with some Levels and Color Balance tweaks. I had no clue the tweaks I made "in-camera" turned out like this on the screen. On camera A (DVX100)I purposely cranked up the black pedestal and upped the chroma level to try and match camera B (GL-1) super saturated colors. Apparently my LCD on my camera isn't very accurate either. UGH

On a good note it only took about an hour to sort thru the clips on the timeline one by one and make the necissary color adjustments. I rendered out the sequence of edits to one long AVI file (which took quite a bit of time, maybe the color adjustments made lengthened the render time) played it back...now it looks washed out and low-contrast in the vegas preview window but looks great on the TV monitor. I recomend everyone to make use of the preview to external monitor you might be surprised at what your footage REALLY looks like!

Don Bloom August 19th, 2003 08:08 PM

I have never trusted the on camera LCD for anything but framing and the computer monitor is even worse. I have 3 different systems I edit on and none of the monitors shows the same. The worst is the laptop, the best is my primary system with the dual monitors but I still use a TV with the camera pass thru. My old NTSC monitor died-proper burial has taken place :-(
Don

Peter Jefferson August 20th, 2003 12:29 AM

yeah, with the monitor "monitoring" it is a little darker with alot less contrast....

one thing i do as i use 2 LCD's in post is view the footage as its being captured.

this way i will have a fairly basic idea as to where to keep my colour levels when wirking with effects and colour corrections...

the DVX is an awsome camera and what your doing seems to defeat the purpose of its existance.
IMO i think you should try to match camB to the DVX footage in post or use the footage as supplemental to the DVX instead of tryin to match the 2 by using effects and slow mos from cam b with the main footage on cam a.

Vegas4 has awesome colour correcting capabilities, have you read the supplemental manual? It literally matches colours and saturation levels from differnt cams...
there are also projects which demonstate film/dv interchaged footage...
all these can be found on sonic foundrys site.

Tor Salomonsen August 20th, 2003 12:53 AM

Here's one way to do it:
http://home.hesbynett.no/saltor/_test/write2.wmv

I don't think Vegas can create a properly animated write sequence, so some sort of trick is needed. Look for the veg file Harry mentioned. I've heard about it, but never seen it.

Glen Elliott August 20th, 2003 06:23 AM

I had to use my GL-1 as a reference beings the settings I chose turned out so terrible. I shot an earlier wedding using F1 mode and it lacked contrast- the blacks looked dark grey. I used that info and adjusted the blackpoint. I also upped the chroma- which I never should have done trying to get that highly saturated image the GL-1 produces. One I actually prefer for wedding videography. I know the DVX is far superior of a cam to the GL-1, it was just an instance where the GL-1 footage turned out better due to my idiotic tweaks in-camera on my DVX.

I'll soon have to learn the more complex color correction tools in Vegas. Right now I'm only working with color balance to fix bad white balance.

Brad Higerd August 20th, 2003 06:25 AM

Glen,

I tried what you suggested, and it looks like I have introduced soon aliasing/deinterlacing to the higher motion portions of the video. I believe the two video tracks were aligned correctly. as far as any still frames go, the effect looks great, but when I play the video, it looks a little rough (particularly the part fore mentioned).

Brad

Glen Elliott August 20th, 2003 06:29 AM

Did you pre-render it?

Brad Higerd August 20th, 2003 06:39 AM

I actually rendered a 30 min episode. It took about 4 hours with a 800MHz FSB 2.8GHz P4 PC.

Rob Lohman August 20th, 2003 07:00 AM

That depends on how your footage was shot. Vegas can do
de-interlacing (no idea how it looks, since I always shoot in
"progressive" mode)

Glen Elliott August 20th, 2003 07:39 AM

What do you mean exactly by aliasing/deinterlacing- they are two totally different things. Describe what you see the best you can. Posting a sample clip would be most beneficial for us.
I can't imagine what problems you would have by simply applying a gaussian blur @ 50% opacity to a duplicated track/clip. Unless of course maybe your footage is a frame off sync. A good way to get them in sync is to double click one of the tracks to create a selection the total lenght of the track then drag the other clip over that area to snap to the guides from the selection.

What format did you render out to?

Glen Elliott August 20th, 2003 07:41 AM

Tsunami for Vegas 4.0d
 
Ed is there a site we can visit to find out more about Tsunami? Is it officially released yet?

Brad Higerd August 20th, 2003 08:01 AM

I used the exact technique you just described to create a duplicate track. The original footage was all recorded in Frame Mode (GL2), and the softening effect was rendered to an AVI file (Interlaced). Should I have rendered a progressive AVI video?

I'm not sure how to post an example, but I would describe it as an increased interlacing artifact. As one of the actors legs is kicking up and down (with respect to the NTSC monitor's horizontal resolution), there are more "unrepresentative" horizontal lines related to the true edges of the leg. The original video was without the obvious interlace effect.


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