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Edward Troxel August 25th, 2004 10:40 AM

When you "capture" via firewire, you are simply COPYING the data from the tape to the hard drive. There would be NO difference between MOV or AVI as they both contain the exact same data except for the "wrapper". Your DV-AVI files are compressed but the compression is done in the camera. There is NO additional compression during the capture process.

I believe you will see a MUCH higher quality on a DVD as compared to an SVCD.

Randall Campbell August 25th, 2004 10:55 AM

Marcia,

There is a script called Clip Logger that will allow you to output the media pool info to a delimited text file. It was originally written for importing clip log info, but I added the export function based upon a user request.

If you want to give it a try, go to the following link for more info. Clip Logger is a part of the Veggie Toolkit. If you download the toolkit, you can try it for 30 days.

http://www.peachrock.com/software/veggie-toolkit.html

If you desire any enhancements to the script, just email me at info@peachrock.com and I will see what I can do to help.

Randall

Gary Kleiner August 25th, 2004 02:18 PM

Vince,

You can still order Vegas Video Editing (3 hours of Vegas 4 instruction) at www.VegasTrainingAndTools.com.

Thanks,
Gary

Michael Best August 25th, 2004 08:26 PM

Frankly...
 
I can match up the look of the dvx100 with the XL1S in terms
of saturation, sharpness, etc. Can I really acheive the 24p
look in Vegas with the XL1S?

Glen Elliott August 25th, 2004 09:15 PM

Re: Frankly...
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Michael Best : I can match up the look of the dvx100 with the XL1S in terms
of saturation,
Any NLE will give you control over saturation.

sharpness,
No. Sure there are equivalents to the unsharpen mask filter but that doesn't really "sharpen" the image. It just boosts the contrast between edges.

The XL1s naturally offers a much softer image than the DVX100. Especially in lower light. The lower the light the softer and muddier the image becomes.




Can I really acheive the 24p
look in Vegas with the XL1S?
Depends on what you define as the 24p look? You can definitly manipulate the image and framerate to mimic the DVX's look but it will be, by no means, identical.

If your really that set on the DVX's looks why not hock your XL-1s and get a DVX?

Aaron J.H. Walker August 25th, 2004 10:25 PM

Edward;
I have a similar problem.
I output my rough edit as an avi file to a third party dvd creator and see MAJOR pixelation in some spots. The pixelation is not on the original tape on my 35 inch tv playing the same clips straight out of my DVC-80. Could it be the dvd program's compresion codec causing this? I'm using Roxio something or other that came with my dvd burner just so I could get it out until I can afford the upgrade to Vegas 5+DVD. Would it look better to output to MPEG-2 or .avi from Vegas 4 to the Roxio program or does it matter?

Graham Bernard August 26th, 2004 02:11 AM

How do we share ALT+D Workspace Layout Files?
 
It would be really "neat" if all of us could "share" our layouts. Where are the Layout file/s? What are they called and what would it need for us to do make use of them?

Just to say that V5 just gets better and better ... this ALT+D really has broken through yet another barrier in me being able to get "closer" to my project development - and gets the NLE out of my face!

Grazie

Vince Debart August 26th, 2004 04:41 AM

Gary
We should do lunch some time since we are only 50 miles apart.
I only know of one other Vegas user on the Front Range and he is
as new as me


Vince

Michael Best August 26th, 2004 05:43 AM

Definitely not set on the look, just would like to achieve something
similar 'sometimes'.

Edward Troxel August 26th, 2004 07:15 AM

Grazie, I answered your quesition over here before seeing this one

Edward Troxel August 26th, 2004 07:17 AM

Yes, it *could* be caused by the Roxio encoding. I don't know anything about what Roxio uses for encoding. If it will accept MPEG2 files, you might try encoding in Vegas instead.

Gary Kleiner August 26th, 2004 11:35 AM

Vince,

Email me at vegasediting@aol.com and I'll get you on the list for the colorado Vegas users group. We haven't met in a while, but it may start up again soon.

Gary

Vince Debart August 26th, 2004 12:46 PM

cool

John Cline August 26th, 2004 02:18 PM

SVCD is 480x480 pixels with a maximum data rate of about 2500k/second. The horizontal resolution and the limited data rate is simply not enough to produce high quality video.

John

Adi Head August 26th, 2004 04:29 PM

vegas suddenly rendering bad mpegs
 
until today i have had no problem rendering projects to mpeg2.
but today i tried rendereing a project and the mpeg file would not play on either winamp or microsoft mediaplayer.

winamp would just not play the mpeg. the microsoft media player would collapse and say: catastrphic error.

why is this happening?

i have done nothing different than in the earlier renders which were fine.

i render to mpeg2 and use the PAS DVD template.

i tried rendering to mpeg1. same results.

i tried playing a different mpeg file, not rendered with vegas. played perfectly.

i double checked all the parameters. i tried rendering again. but with no success.

finally i DID manage to play the mpeg files on a friends computer with Sonic CinePlayer. but other players reject it.

any ideas?

Dennis Vogel August 26th, 2004 09:36 PM

Have you loaded any new software on your machine?

Have you done a virus scan lately?

Good luck.

Dennis Vogel

Adi Head August 27th, 2004 01:42 AM

i do virus checks daily. and yes, i did add new software. buy why should this have any effect on vegas' rendering process?

could uninstalling vegas and reinstalling it help?

this is beginning to worry me.

adi

Adi Head August 27th, 2004 03:25 AM

i rendered the project to .avi
this seems to work fine with all mediaplayers. but i noticed that the quality is really bad. i DID use multiple effects on the video, such as color curves, film effect and color correction, which could explain loss in quality, but the image is pixelated. i can actually see pixels moving on the screen (especially in bright areas). this is really wierd. i'll do some more testing. but if you have any suggestions or ideas, i'd be really happy to hear them. i have a video project i to screen on a large screen in one week and what i have now is no good.

thank you,
adi

Edward Troxel August 27th, 2004 07:17 AM

Try reinstalling Vegas to see if it can straighten out whatever your other install changed.

Trey Perrone August 27th, 2004 10:15 AM

try to do a pre-render (shift+B)

the stutters should not show in the final render, maybe your resources aren't enough to display.

may also want to up the RAM avail for pre-render
options/preferences/video

Albert Rodgers August 27th, 2004 10:39 AM

Audio: Key (musical note) Change
 
Hey Guys,

I have a friend who is a vocalist. He is wondering can I change the key of some of his musical tracks. How can I do this in Vegas?
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Al

Edward Troxel August 27th, 2004 11:00 AM

Open the help file, do a search on "Pitch", and then select "Editing Event Properties" from the found list. The third item down is: Time-Stretch or Pitch-Shift an audio event and explains the proper keypresses to perform this function.

Simon Wyndham August 27th, 2004 12:37 PM

Dirt and ust on a lens, any way to remove?
 
Just found that some of my footage has dust on the lens, and the light is catching it showing it up. This is with a 16:9 lens BTW, typical of it's sort.

Now I realise that some of you may just tell me to clean the lens before I shoot. I just want to clarify that I do. But it seems there is some dust actually inside the element. With a matte box or some other way of shading the lens such things never show up. But these were Glidecam shots and I had no way at the time of shading it.

Anyway regardless of solutions at the time of shooting it's too late now. Does anyone know of any filters that might be able to remove such smudges and marks from footage?

Simon Wyndham August 27th, 2004 12:40 PM

Scott will announce the plug-in update very soon in the Sony forums. I'll let you know when it's up. He has just made a last minute modification for the user to adjust the amount of the effect they want, much like the adjustment in the Magic Bullet Opticals suite, so the release was delayed for a few days while he added it.

Edward Troxel August 27th, 2004 01:27 PM

It's there now!

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...plies=2&Page=0

Simon Wyndham August 27th, 2004 02:06 PM

Excellent. Enjoy!

Marcia Janine Galles August 27th, 2004 04:28 PM

Locking markers to events/clips while editing
 
OK, a search through the manual and these archives brought up nothing. Surely there is a way to lock the markers to the event/clip in the timeline. W/o that ability, any notes I make at exact points will shift around as I build the edit. I have noticed that I can do it in the trimmer, and then they don't move when the event/clip is moved about on the timeline, but you can't read those notes at a glance once you've cut it into the timeline, which is unacceptable.

Anybody?

Edward Troxel August 27th, 2004 06:25 PM

Is the "Lock Envelopes to Events" button on the toolbar turned on?

Marcia Janine Galles August 27th, 2004 06:39 PM

Yep. First thing I tried, though a marker isn't really an "envelope," is it? (I confess I still get thrown sometimes by what Vegas calls things.)

Didn't help anyway. Other thoughts?

P.S. I wandered by your site for the first time in months, Edward. Looking good!

Edward Troxel August 27th, 2004 07:25 PM

Thanks Marcia. I've put a lot of work in on it. Try this for your problem:

1) Turn on Auto Ripple
2) Click on the drop down beside the auto ripple button and choose "All tracks, markers, and regions"
3) Now try moving your clip - everything should transfer with it.

Marcia Janine Galles August 27th, 2004 09:45 PM

Okay, I see what I did now. I'd tried that because I was SURE that I did it that way before I left for production, but you have to let go of the clip on the timeline for the marker to reset, or "catch up." I was sliding it while holding the button down, expecting the marker would travel with it. It doesn't, but it gets there a nanosecond after you release the button. Phew! Thanks Edward. Again.

Adi Head August 28th, 2004 05:29 AM

prerendered file full with i don't know what
 
my PRERENERED file has about 4 GB of prerendered files in it. i have never used the prerender function. only FILES > Render as... and so on. one time i DID print to tape (and that is over and done with). could these files be leftover from the print to tape i did a while ago? what are these files? i want to get rid of these 4GB if they are unnecessary.

also i noticed that when i reverse a video event, a new clip appears in the media pool as the reversed clip. for example if i reverse the video event of clip 003 then "clip 003 (reversed)" shows up in the media pool. is this a prerendered file as well? if i erase clip 003 will it's reversed twin be erased as well?

Adi Head August 28th, 2004 05:36 AM

before uninstalling and reinstalling vegas
 
is there anything i should save or note down before uninstalling vegas 5 and reinstalling it?

i'm in the middle of editing a project and strange problems regarding rendering to mpeg have been bugging me. i want to try reinstalling vegas, but i'm a bit panicy regarding the unfinished project. i don't want to stupidly lose any vital information, etc.

for example: are custom set effect prefixes saved somewhere? can't really think of anything else at the moment.

Rob Lohman August 28th, 2004 06:03 AM

To take one step back, I assume it isn't normal to have such
"dust" **inside** a lens (attachment)?

Edward Troxel August 28th, 2004 06:04 AM

Yes, when you to a Print To Tape, it will render anything that needs rendering. This process will create the "Prerendered" files and place them where you've specified for your prerender folder. This is normal. There is even an option in preferences that will allow you to optionally save or not save these pre-rendered files on PTT.

When you reverse a clip, it is creating a SUBCLIP which is what you are seeing in the Media Pool. It is NOT a pre-rendered file. If you try to remove the original (non-reversed) media, it will tell you it is in use. Just leave both there.

Edward Troxel August 28th, 2004 06:06 AM

If you simply uninstall and reinstall - without deleting anything else in the folders or registry - your settings should be preserved. What you might want to try first is a "Repair Install".

Simon Wyndham August 28th, 2004 06:29 AM

No, it's not. Well not if the lens was made well. It's actually quite hard to see looking at the lens until the camera is facing vaguely into the light in which case it shows on screen. I have heard of some people with the Panasonic adaptor having this problem too.

With a good sunshade the dirt cannot normally be seen. Problem is the cost of matte boxes, and having someone flag the lens while using the Glidecam isn't very practical.

Rob Lohman August 28th, 2004 06:40 AM

If you still have warranty I would send it back if it had dust inside
the lens. Otherwise I don't know what you could do to fix it,
otherwise to try some post production tools for dust removal and
such things.

Charley Gallagher August 28th, 2004 10:07 AM

Problems with .veg files
 
I saved a couple .veg files that I spent hours on. when I went to open them Vegas got stuck in the "building peaks" mode. It got to 11% and never went further. I see the previously saved version also is giving me this problem.

Is the .veg file salvageable? Might the problem be coming from a file that Vegas is trying to access? Is there some workaround for this. I hate to think I have lost all this work since my backup files for these veggies are behaving the same way.

Has this happened to anyone else?

Edward Troxel August 28th, 2004 10:13 AM

Building peaks should happen AFTER the file is open. A few questions:

1) Is there free space where these AVI files are stored?
2) Can you load these files (AVI files - NOT the veg files) into a blank timeline? Do the peaks build then?

After you get it to build the peaks correctly, the VEG file should open.


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