Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2004

Vance Osborne · November 30th, 2004, 01:54 AM

uhm...well, that was helpful :)

Anyhow, it is very choppy when it is previewing in real-time in Pro 1.5, but when I run 6.5 (same computer), it runs extremely smooth.
I find it bizzare and was looking for an explanation and hopefully a tweak/solution from someone...

Jonathan Nicholas · November 30th, 2004, 03:13 AM

I agree this is quite a slow app even with my pentium 4 3GHz - apparantly it is a system resource and power hungry application and there's not much you can do about it!

Jon

Steven Gotz · November 30th, 2004, 08:24 AM

Ah, that's a better explanation. I was hoping you would come back with a response.

There are quite a few things it could be. Premiere Pro uses an overlay on the screen, unlike Media Player. So it could be your video card, or just the video card settings. Do you have acceleration turned on?

Do you frequently defragment your video hard drive? Are you using a different drive for your video than your applications? Not just a partitioned drive, a separate piece of hardware? And do you have them both set to Master on different busses?

Also, do you reboot the PC often? The more RAM available to Premiere Pro, the smoother the previews. And the more often they are previewed, the better the RAM cache works. Sounds odd, I know. But hit enter and ignore the playback. Hit enter again and see if it looks better.

Also, when the screen is redrawing, the playback is poor. Set your tracks to NOT show the Picons and it will redraw faster. So you can preview sooner.

David Yuen · November 30th, 2004, 10:26 AM

Adobe says your specs are above minimum, but when you look at their recommended specs, it is a bit under.

Right-click the monitor and select the display quality to be draft or automatic. That might help with the playback.

You should also follow the suggestions in this thread.

Vance Osborne · November 30th, 2004, 12:51 PM

Thank you for the response...I will give all that a go and see if I can smoothen it out a bit :)
I have 6.5, pro and pro 1.5 all on the same machine, and I can't understand why 6.5 simply doesn't need any mucking around. It is very nimble with real-time, but I have to play around with pro to get the same results.. grrr...

Jake Sawyer · November 30th, 2004, 10:09 PM

Thanks for the tutorials guys. They've really helped and I've eliminated almost all of my problems. It worked great on the bus hum also.

John Michael Harper · November 30th, 2004, 11:55 PM

Experimenting with newly captured footage - there was sound during capture.

Now when I drop a clip into the preview monitor there's only sound when I scrub back and forth over the clip. Also no sound when dropping the clip into the timeline. Again, scrubbing works.

I messed with the audio and audio hardware settings, but am simply using my default Windows soundcard.

What am I missing? Thanks....

Rob Lohman · December 1st, 2004, 06:08 AM

Keep in mind that Premiere Pro 1.0/1.5 is far more resource hungry
and takes a much more powerful machine to work fast!

Steven: why do you say that WMP does not use overlay to
display video? Mine does here, as does every other media
player I have here (easily proved with a screen capture program)

Rob Lohman · December 1st, 2004, 07:22 AM

John: I've moved your thread to our dedicated Premiere forum.
However, there already is a thread running on this very same
topic, if you can please continue the discussion there:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=35595

Steven Gotz · December 1st, 2004, 07:30 AM

Rob,

Perhaps I am wrong. My media player did not have overlay turned on by default. Yet it is possible to turn it on.

Or, I may have yurned it off to capture the screen once upon a time and the new Media Player 10 used the older settings when I upgraded recently?

Rob Lohman · December 1st, 2004, 07:43 AM

An upgrade should indeed retain your settings <g>

John Michael Harper · December 1st, 2004, 08:18 AM

Sorry about posting in the wrong forum, I felt like a knucklehead for a minute or two.

Anyway, this unfortunately is not the same topic as the other thread, as the other current audio thread has to do with rendering.

I have both audio and video in the timeline, the audio will playback only when I scrub over the clip. What gives?

Billy Dalrymple · December 2nd, 2004, 12:32 PM

Couple things to try...

1) Double check to make sure that you have enabled the sound output on the specific audio tract.

2) You may also want to expand the track and zoom in to see if you see the audio waveform.

3) Increase the track volume itself to see if it was muffled.

4) Ensure the preview screen has sound enabled.

Billy Dalrymple · December 2nd, 2004, 12:35 PM

Do you know of a way to allow multiple colors to be passed using the color pass filter?

Stephen Jackson · December 3rd, 2004, 07:56 AM

What I did was to import the clip in AE and motion tracked the shirt export the file back into PPro and added the chroma key to the AE layer and the added the color lawyer to the original clip. I set the saturation of the original clip to 0 B&W look only

So now the only color in the clip is the shirt.

November 30th, 2004, 10:26 AM	#1354
David Yuen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 185	System is probably underpowered Adobe says your specs are above minimum, but when you look at their recommended specs, it is a bit under. Right-click the monitor and select the display quality to be draft or automatic. That might help with the playback. You should also follow the suggestions in this thread.

November 30th, 2004, 11:55 PM	#1357
John Michael Harper New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Newton, MA Posts: 9	premiere pro audio query: no sound Experimenting with newly captured footage - there was sound during capture. Now when I drop a clip into the preview monitor there's only sound when I scrub back and forth over the clip. Also no sound when dropping the clip into the timeline. Again, scrubbing works. I messed with the audio and audio hardware settings, but am simply using my default Windows soundcard. What am I missing? Thanks....

December 1st, 2004, 06:08 AM	#1358
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Keep in mind that Premiere Pro 1.0/1.5 is far more resource hungry and takes a much more powerful machine to work fast! Steven: why do you say that WMP does not use overlay to display video? Mine does here, as does every other media player I have here (easily proved with a screen capture program) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 1st, 2004, 07:22 AM	#1359
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	John: I've moved your thread to our dedicated Premiere forum. However, there already is a thread running on this very same topic, if you can please continue the discussion there: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=35595 __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 1st, 2004, 07:43 AM	#1361
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	An upgrade should indeed retain your settings <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 30th, 2004, 01:54 AM	#1351
Vance Osborne New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 19	uhm...well, that was helpful :) Anyhow, it is very choppy when it is previewing in real-time in Pro 1.5, but when I run 6.5 (same computer), it runs extremely smooth. I find it bizzare and was looking for an explanation and hopefully a tweak/solution from someone...

November 30th, 2004, 03:13 AM	#1352
Jonathan Nicholas Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 90	I agree this is quite a slow app even with my pentium 4 3GHz - apparantly it is a system resource and power hungry application and there's not much you can do about it! Jon

November 30th, 2004, 08:24 AM	#1353
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Ah, that's a better explanation. I was hoping you would come back with a response. There are quite a few things it could be. Premiere Pro uses an overlay on the screen, unlike Media Player. So it could be your video card, or just the video card settings. Do you have acceleration turned on? Do you frequently defragment your video hard drive? Are you using a different drive for your video than your applications? Not just a partitioned drive, a separate piece of hardware? And do you have them both set to Master on different busses? Also, do you reboot the PC often? The more RAM available to Premiere Pro, the smoother the previews. And the more often they are previewed, the better the RAM cache works. Sounds odd, I know. But hit enter and ignore the playback. Hit enter again and see if it looks better. Also, when the screen is redrawing, the playback is poor. Set your tracks to NOT show the Picons and it will redraw faster. So you can preview sooner.

November 30th, 2004, 12:51 PM	#1355
Vance Osborne New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 19	Thank you for the response...I will give all that a go and see if I can smoothen it out a bit :) I have 6.5, pro and pro 1.5 all on the same machine, and I can't understand why 6.5 simply doesn't need any mucking around. It is very nimble with real-time, but I have to play around with pro to get the same results.. grrr...

November 30th, 2004, 10:09 PM	#1356
Jake Sawyer Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 48	Thanks for the tutorials guys. They've really helped and I've eliminated almost all of my problems. It worked great on the bus hum also.

December 1st, 2004, 07:30 AM	#1360
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Rob, Perhaps I am wrong. My media player did not have overlay turned on by default. Yet it is possible to turn it on. Or, I may have yurned it off to capture the screen once upon a time and the new Media Player 10 used the older settings when I upgraded recently?

December 1st, 2004, 08:18 AM	#1362
John Michael Harper New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Newton, MA Posts: 9	not the same topic Sorry about posting in the wrong forum, I felt like a knucklehead for a minute or two. Anyway, this unfortunately is not the same topic as the other thread, as the other current audio thread has to do with rendering. I have both audio and video in the timeline, the audio will playback only when I scrub over the clip. What gives?

December 2nd, 2004, 12:32 PM	#1363
Billy Dalrymple Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 50	Couple things to try... 1) Double check to make sure that you have enabled the sound output on the specific audio tract. 2) You may also want to expand the track and zoom in to see if you see the audio waveform. 3) Increase the track volume itself to see if it was muffled. 4) Ensure the preview screen has sound enabled. __________________ -Billy

December 2nd, 2004, 12:35 PM	#1364
Billy Dalrymple Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 50	Do you know of a way to allow multiple colors to be passed using the color pass filter? __________________ -Billy

December 3rd, 2004, 07:56 AM	#1365
Stephen Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York NY Posts: 77	What I did was to import the clip in AE and motion tracked the shirt export the file back into PPro and added the chroma key to the AE layer and the added the color lawyer to the original clip. I set the saturation of the original clip to 0 B&W look only So now the only color in the clip is the shirt. __________________ Stephen Jackson RoaDDoggZ productions www.roaddoggz.com