Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2004

[Steven Gotz]

There are a couple of plugins for After Effects that do a decent job. Twixtor is one http://www.revisionfx.com/rstwixtor.htm and ReTimer is another http://www.digitalanarchy.com/pressr...3_retimer.html

They figure out what the in-between frames should look like.

[Rob Lohman]

Please provide the following information:

1. what are your EXACT project settings?

2. to what format are you exporting?

3. in what program are you loading this exported frame?

[Jiggy Gaton]

ok, i must be doing something wrong here:
1. take a small clip (320x240, no audio, dither, etc).
2. export as compusa gif format (creates a gif for each frame) using the microsoft codec.
3. import into adobe imageready, using import folder as frames.
4. save as optimixed animated.gif
all goes well and as expected EXCEPT FOR FILE SIZE! 5 meg or so. there is no way i can put that on a website! Any suggestions? I really need help with this.
ps.I also tried the export from premiere pro called animated gif, and the file size was even larger!

[Kent Metschan]

Thanks for the reply. What I'm doing is exporting a bmp and then placing it back into my sequence as a still. I'm sure you've seen when they are showing video and then it stops for a few seconds and they put a title on the shot. That's what I'm trying to accomplish. It has always worked in 4:3 and this is my first attempt at 16x9. I don't have all my project settings as I'm at work. Thanks.

[Steven Gotz]

How many frames are there? At what frame rate?

[Steven Gotz]

If you are used to exporting a still as 4:3, you might just need to change your settings and export at 16:9. But make sure it is square pixels, meaning you have to do the math.

[Jiggy Gaton]

thanks steve! frame rate # is the prob. I have 130+ frames at 50kb each so i dont know what i was thinking. I was hoping that imageready would smash it all down to an animated gif of about 100kb but that's just dreamin. i am going to try the export at 5 fps and see what happens, but maybe it's not possible to make small animated gifs that have a video look ?!? ke garne.
jigs

[Steven Gotz]

How big are your frames? Maybe you should reduce the size to no more than 320X240, and reduce the color to 256 if it hasn't already been done. At 5 frames per second, it doesn't exactly look like video.

[K. Forman]

Somewhat smooth animation is 12-15 frames per second.

[Kent Metschan]

Could you shed some more light for me? The pixel aspect ration I thought would work is "D1/DV NTSC Widescreen 16:9 (1.2)". I've also tried square pixels and that doesn't seem to work either. Do I need to change the frame size? It's set for 720 x 480 which is the dimension of the project.

[Steven Gotz]

Well, you can't export 1.2 ratio pixels and expect them to work in anything except a video editor is my guess. Try exporting 864X480 and see how that works for you.

That is what I meant by doing the math. Multiply 720 by 1.2

[Karel Bata]

1 - Anyone know if there's a way of getting Cleaner SX to show up as one of my export settings in Premiere 1.5?

2 - If I can't do that, what should my export settings in Premiere be to allow me to then import into SX? I know it should be the same frame size and frame rate as the source material, but what codecs shoudl I use?

3 - And, while I'm here, how do I switch off Premiere's tendency to process everything - by that I mean getting Premiere to not process cuts-only material?

Many thanks

[Rob Lohman]

<<<-- but maybe it's not possible to make small animated gifs that have a video look ?!? -->>>

I would say that is indeed not possible, due to the fact that GIF's
are only 256 colors and you will only be able to store a couple of
frames (and thus a very low framerate).

I do believe PNG has animation support as well up to full 24 bit
color, but that will increase the filesize even more.

[Rob Lohman]

Steven has a good point, that is also the reason why I asked what
your exact project settings where.

In Vegas (for example) this happens automatically (ie, it does
this transform for you), but it appears this does not happen in
Premiere.

As Steven indicated the math is simply. Check what the pixel
aspect ratio is in your project settings and multiply this number
by the width (720) of NTSC. When exporting choose 1.0 as
pixel aspect ratio (all stills need a 1.0 PA ratio!) and enter the
calculated width as the resolution and leave the default height
(should be 480).

[Jiggy Gaton]

thanks all, you guys are the experts with thousands of posts! i give up. i thought i could decorate a website with just little bits of great footage but by the time u get it down to 320x5fps it looks pretty bad. i tried swf (flash) but its the same problem. one of these days i'll get into streaming video but not now. i was going to have animated gif icons for some downloadable avi or wmf clips but the best thing would be a simple gif. i guess i'll just wait till the next tecnological advancement. thanks again for all your comments!
jigs