Canon XL1 & XL1S Batteries / Battery Options

Ken Tanaka · October 2nd, 2003, 10:58 PM

It sounds like your back-up battery (the watch battery) is dead.

Stacy Schoolfield · October 2nd, 2003, 11:00 PM

wow...didn't even realize I had one of those...
where is it? I don't think this is even listed in the manual...or did I just miss it?
Thanks!

Ken Tanaka · October 2nd, 2003, 11:14 PM

See page 99.

Stacy Schoolfield · October 2nd, 2003, 11:28 PM

Thank you Ken!
Once again, this forum provides a speedy, accurate reply! Many thanks!
Stacy

Greg Boston · October 5th, 2003, 08:02 AM

Yes, I just replaced mine. It is a CR-2025 type lithium battery. You can get them pretty much anywhere batteries are sold. On the XL-1, it's tucked into the bottom of the right-hand grip. I think they are rated for a year but they typically last longer than that.

Greg B.

p.s. I just acquired a used XL-1. It was flashing when I got the camera.

Norman Woo · October 23rd, 2003, 11:52 AM

Folks

I'm currently carrying around 6 NP945 batteries for a typical full day wedding shoot.

Does a battery belt exist out there that that can work with my XL1? I saw someone wearing such a belt powring a GL2.

Thanks

Jeff Donald · October 23rd, 2003, 01:54 PM

Try NGR for battery belts. I have used them for years. I just recently sold one, they seem to last forever. I could power an XL1 all day with the belt and still be between 1/2 and 3/4 power. I believe B & H carries NRG and you can link to through the sponsor page (just click on the link in my signature at the bottom of this post).

Michel Brewer · October 25th, 2003, 02:28 PM

the anton bauer system for the xl1,(not the 30/13 belts I have 2 and they weigh a ton) I got one and its a great addition plus the extra weight for balance on the shoulder has been quite nice. the other nice thing about that is you can start to outfit with real lights, (batt belt will do that to). The AB system is pricier but with the benefits of shoulder weight and the onboard light upgrade might be worth it to consider...BH carries it and probably one or two other sponsers of this board.

plus you would probably pay for it in one shoot :)

M

Dave Stewart · October 26th, 2003, 10:11 PM

I've actually used some RC batteries connected to the adapter for the AC/charger unit. I can buy them for about $20 and they work like a charm. I put them in a fanny pack. You don't get any low battery readout, however, but they last about 90 min.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · November 7th, 2003, 02:10 PM

Hi folks,

I know that you recommend the batteries from Power 2000 and lemnar ( I personnaly use some Power 2000 batteries and I am very satisfied).

But what do you think about those no-brand ones that can be purchased from eBay at 30 bucks ? It is really an excellent price! Think that it is worth to test one of them?

Check this link:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=15072

Is there somebody here who already made the experiment?

K. Forman · November 7th, 2003, 02:59 PM

I have several 3rd party batteries by Empire. The price is great, and they have held up for the past couple of years. They don't seem to hold a charge quite as well as the cannons, but at this price, I can have 3 charged up and ready.

Nathan Gifford · November 7th, 2003, 03:47 PM

I have a Lenmar and have been quite happy.

Christopher Hughes · November 7th, 2003, 05:15 PM

I use the D Concept ones from OPTEX Battery its 6000mAh and lasts ages, in fact half the time when I'm filming stuff here and there over a few days I forget that the camera even needs a battery. They are like £70 pounds but lasts ages and at 6000mAh give hefty amounts of power.

https://secure.xl1s.com/cgi-bin/shop/commerce.cgi?pid=502

Corey Cook · November 9th, 2003, 01:18 PM

I've read in the XL1s Manual that if the battery isn't drained before a period of long storage than something can be damaged. Is there a way to drain the battery without filming useless footage?

Thanks,

C.

Stephen Schleicher · November 9th, 2003, 01:30 PM

You can always just leave the camera on until the battery runs down without having to actually tape anything.

What they are refering to is the battery building up a memory. It works this way.

If the battery is only drained halfway before you recharge it again, the battery begins to think that when it reaches the halfway point, that it is dead. It builds up this memory of what it believes the "dead point" is and thus mucks up your battery.

If you don't want to keep your camera on to drain the battery, you may want to purchase a battery charger that is a smart charger. The smart charger will look at the battery and if it has a charge still on it, it will trickle it down (drain it) and then recharge it.

October 2nd, 2003, 10:58 PM	#211
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	It sounds like your back-up battery (the watch battery) is dead. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

October 2nd, 2003, 11:00 PM	#212
Stacy Schoolfield New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5	watch batterY wow...didn't even realize I had one of those... where is it? I don't think this is even listed in the manual...or did I just miss it? Thanks!

October 2nd, 2003, 11:14 PM	#213
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	See page 99. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

October 2nd, 2003, 11:28 PM	#214
Stacy Schoolfield New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5	DL2025 or CR 2025 Thank you Ken! Once again, this forum provides a speedy, accurate reply! Many thanks! Stacy

October 5th, 2003, 08:02 AM	#215
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	XL-1 backup battery Yes, I just replaced mine. It is a CR-2025 type lithium battery. You can get them pretty much anywhere batteries are sold. On the XL-1, it's tucked into the bottom of the right-hand grip. I think they are rated for a year but they typically last longer than that. Greg B. p.s. I just acquired a used XL-1. It was flashing when I got the camera.

October 23rd, 2003, 11:52 AM	#216
Norman Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brossard, Quebec, Canada Posts: 147	Battery belt for XL1 Folks I'm currently carrying around 6 NP945 batteries for a typical full day wedding shoot. Does a battery belt exist out there that that can work with my XL1? I saw someone wearing such a belt powring a GL2. Thanks

October 23rd, 2003, 01:54 PM	#217
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Try NGR for battery belts. I have used them for years. I just recently sold one, they seem to last forever. I could power an XL1 all day with the belt and still be between 1/2 and 3/4 power. I believe B & H carries NRG and you can link to through the sponsor page (just click on the link in my signature at the bottom of this post). __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 25th, 2003, 02:28 PM	#218
Michel Brewer Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ventura California Posts: 179	you might also consider the anton bauer system for the xl1,(not the 30/13 belts I have 2 and they weigh a ton) I got one and its a great addition plus the extra weight for balance on the shoulder has been quite nice. the other nice thing about that is you can start to outfit with real lights, (batt belt will do that to). The AB system is pricier but with the benefits of shoulder weight and the onboard light upgrade might be worth it to consider...BH carries it and probably one or two other sponsers of this board. plus you would probably pay for it in one shoot :) M __________________ milking the celebrity criminal trials thank god for the freaks

October 26th, 2003, 10:11 PM	#219
Dave Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 109	I've actually used some RC batteries connected to the adapter for the AC/charger unit. I can buy them for about $20 and they work like a charm. I put them in a fanny pack. You don't get any low battery readout, however, but they last about 90 min.

November 7th, 2003, 02:10 PM	#220
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	3rd party battery Hi folks, I know that you recommend the batteries from Power 2000 and lemnar ( I personnaly use some Power 2000 batteries and I am very satisfied). But what do you think about those no-brand ones that can be purchased from eBay at 30 bucks ? It is really an excellent price! Think that it is worth to test one of them? Check this link: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=15072 Is there somebody here who already made the experiment? __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

November 7th, 2003, 02:59 PM	#221
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I have several 3rd party batteries by Empire. The price is great, and they have held up for the past couple of years. They don't seem to hold a charge quite as well as the cannons, but at this price, I can have 3 charged up and ready.

November 7th, 2003, 03:47 PM	#222
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	I have a Lenmar and have been quite happy. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

November 7th, 2003, 05:15 PM	#223
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	I use the D Concept ones from OPTEX Battery its 6000mAh and lasts ages, in fact half the time when I'm filming stuff here and there over a few days I forget that the camera even needs a battery. They are like £70 pounds but lasts ages and at 6000mAh give hefty amounts of power. https://secure.xl1s.com/cgi-bin/shop/commerce.cgi?pid=502

November 9th, 2003, 01:18 PM	#224
Corey Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 51	What Happens if Battery isn't Drained? I've read in the XL1s Manual that if the battery isn't drained before a period of long storage than something can be damaged. Is there a way to drain the battery without filming useless footage? Thanks, C. __________________ I Have Spoken.

November 9th, 2003, 01:30 PM	#225
Stephen Schleicher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hays, KS Posts: 188	You can always just leave the camera on until the battery runs down without having to actually tape anything. What they are refering to is the battery building up a memory. It works this way. If the battery is only drained halfway before you recharge it again, the battery begins to think that when it reaches the halfway point, that it is dead. It builds up this memory of what it believes the "dead point" is and thus mucks up your battery. If you don't want to keep your camera on to drain the battery, you may want to purchase a battery charger that is a smart charger. The smart charger will look at the battery and if it has a charge still on it, it will trickle it down (drain it) and then recharge it. __________________ Stephen Schleicher www.stephenschleicher.com