Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Glenn Chan · November 5th, 2004, 12:32 AM

You can have 2 instances of Vegas open at once, so you can render with one and edit the other.

Simon Wyndham · November 5th, 2004, 08:01 AM

In the last two days I have started suffering from some very odd crashes with Vegas 5b. What happens is that on odd occasions when I use the undo function Vegas just disappears! I then have to load it up again and luckily it normally has an autosaved version of the project due to the crash.

I haven't installed anything new on my machine, which is only 3 months old and has no internet access.

The only thing I have done differently with this project is that I have used the media bins with a folder for each scenes files (15 bin folders in all). I've noticed some odd behaviour with these too (such as the placing of media from other bins into other scenes bins without my say so) as I never normally use Bins.

This is really frustrating me. It has happened around 5 times in the last 2 days, and it doesn't matter whether I use the Undo menu option or the keyboard shortcut, it still results in Vegas going AWOL occasionally. I've never had this problem before as Vegas is usually rock solid.

Graham Bernard · November 5th, 2004, 08:30 AM

Simon, what have you TITLED or named the Bins as?

Grazie

Simon Wyndham · November 5th, 2004, 09:02 AM

Just the scene numbers, eg Scene 1, Scene 2 etc

Danny Jones · November 5th, 2004, 01:41 PM

I have wedding gig I did and shot 1 cam shot. Well, I have few shots when toast was going on where I panned quickly to get 2 shot with 1 cam type deal. Now I am trying to figure out how to cut the panning part. I tried using the still pose of Bride/Groom but their facial expressions never change so it looks very obvious that I use same clips to try to cover the panning part. Any suggestions of what I can do the cut the panning??

Peter Sieben · November 5th, 2004, 04:11 PM

If you pan, is there someone visible on the screen that is doing some talking - just before or just after the panning? Or both? What I would do is cut the panning part, and find a way to do a hard cut without harming the continuity of a dialog or the audio. Try to sneak with the audio: for example, let the audio of the first videopart go on after the cut and try to make a crossfade with the audio of the 2nd videosegment after the cut.

Peter

Edward Troxel · November 5th, 2004, 04:25 PM

How about a generic "crowd" shot during the pan time?

Danny Jones · November 5th, 2004, 04:56 PM

Well I did not get good generic shot of crowd. I basically went from podium to bride/groom.

Tim Le · November 5th, 2004, 06:08 PM

Hi all,

Anyone know if it's possible to do a pan/crop move with an initial velocity? For example, say I want to do a left to right pan over a still image but I want it to already be moving at that velocity at the beginning of the clip and finish at that same velocity at the end of the clip. It appears that in Vegas 4 you can only set the keyframe to within the timeframe of the clip so you are always limited to a ramp up at the beginning and a ramp down at the end. Is this correct? Is there a way around this?

Thanks!

Gary Kleiner · November 5th, 2004, 07:03 PM

Try using a Fast interpolation curve.

If that doesn't do it for you, you can use a Video Mute Envelope to pop on an event "already in progress".

Also, you could render the event and just use the part where it's up to speed.

Gary

Edward Troxel · November 5th, 2004, 08:30 PM

No crowd shots from any other time during the evening?

Edward Troxel · November 5th, 2004, 08:32 PM

Change the "smoothness" setting. The default setting is "1" which causes it to ramp up to speed. Change it to "0" for each keyframe and set the keyframes to "Linear" and it will maintain the same speed all the way.

Tim Le · November 5th, 2004, 10:32 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : Change the "smoothness" setting. The default setting is "1" which causes it to ramp up to speed. Change it to "0" for each keyframe and set the keyframes to "Linear" and it will maintain the same speed all the way. -->>>

Man you guys are fast! That was the ticket...exactly what I needed. But thanks for the workarounds Gary.

Trey Perrone · November 6th, 2004, 09:00 PM

maybe this sounds dumb - but there is no way to apply a "safe cap" to the audio....similar in the way that applying the broadcast colors will keep them in the legal range i was thinking maybe there was an easy way to cap the level at -12 so its DV legal (or cap at any other level for watever purposes)

so far i didnt see anything on this - so im guessing it just a matter of playing with the levels manually or with the automation tools....

Edward Troxel · November 6th, 2004, 10:12 PM

There's the compressor audio effect. You may also need to simply reduce the master volume some as well.

November 5th, 2004, 08:01 AM	#1352
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Very peculiar Vegas 5b crashes In the last two days I have started suffering from some very odd crashes with Vegas 5b. What happens is that on odd occasions when I use the undo function Vegas just disappears! I then have to load it up again and luckily it normally has an autosaved version of the project due to the crash. I haven't installed anything new on my machine, which is only 3 months old and has no internet access. The only thing I have done differently with this project is that I have used the media bins with a folder for each scenes files (15 bin folders in all). I've noticed some odd behaviour with these too (such as the placing of media from other bins into other scenes bins without my say so) as I never normally use Bins. This is really frustrating me. It has happened around 5 times in the last 2 days, and it doesn't matter whether I use the Undo menu option or the keyboard shortcut, it still results in Vegas going AWOL occasionally. I've never had this problem before as Vegas is usually rock solid.

November 5th, 2004, 01:41 PM	#1355
Danny Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 58	New Advice on editing I have wedding gig I did and shot 1 cam shot. Well, I have few shots when toast was going on where I panned quickly to get 2 shot with 1 cam type deal. Now I am trying to figure out how to cut the panning part. I tried using the still pose of Bride/Groom but their facial expressions never change so it looks very obvious that I use same clips to try to cover the panning part. Any suggestions of what I can do the cut the panning??

November 5th, 2004, 04:11 PM	#1356
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	If you pan, is there someone visible on the screen that is doing some talking - just before or just after the panning? Or both? What I would do is cut the panning part, and find a way to do a hard cut without harming the continuity of a dialog or the audio. Try to sneak with the audio: for example, let the audio of the first videopart go on after the cut and try to make a crossfade with the audio of the 2nd videosegment after the cut. Peter __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

November 5th, 2004, 04:25 PM	#1357
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	How about a generic "crowd" shot during the pan time? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 5th, 2004, 06:08 PM	#1359
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	Pan/Crop tool with initial velocity Hi all, Anyone know if it's possible to do a pan/crop move with an initial velocity? For example, say I want to do a left to right pan over a still image but I want it to already be moving at that velocity at the beginning of the clip and finish at that same velocity at the end of the clip. It appears that in Vegas 4 you can only set the keyframe to within the timeframe of the clip so you are always limited to a ramp up at the beginning and a ramp down at the end. Is this correct? Is there a way around this? Thanks!

November 5th, 2004, 12:32 AM	#1351
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You can have 2 instances of Vegas open at once, so you can render with one and edit the other.

November 5th, 2004, 08:30 AM	#1353
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Simon, what have you TITLED or named the Bins as? Grazie

November 5th, 2004, 09:02 AM	#1354
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Just the scene numbers, eg Scene 1, Scene 2 etc

November 5th, 2004, 04:56 PM	#1358
Danny Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 58	Well I did not get good generic shot of crowd. I basically went from podium to bride/groom.

November 5th, 2004, 07:03 PM	#1360
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	Try using a Fast interpolation curve. If that doesn't do it for you, you can use a Video Mute Envelope to pop on an event "already in progress". Also, you could render the event and just use the part where it's up to speed. Gary

November 5th, 2004, 08:30 PM	#1361
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	No crowd shots from any other time during the evening? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 5th, 2004, 08:32 PM	#1362
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Change the "smoothness" setting. The default setting is "1" which causes it to ramp up to speed. Change it to "0" for each keyframe and set the keyframes to "Linear" and it will maintain the same speed all the way. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 5th, 2004, 10:32 PM	#1363
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : Change the "smoothness" setting. The default setting is "1" which causes it to ramp up to speed. Change it to "0" for each keyframe and set the keyframes to "Linear" and it will maintain the same speed all the way. -->>> Man you guys are fast! That was the ticket...exactly what I needed. But thanks for the workarounds Gary.

November 6th, 2004, 09:00 PM	#1364
Trey Perrone Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 155	audio ? - cap levels maybe this sounds dumb - but there is no way to apply a "safe cap" to the audio....similar in the way that applying the broadcast colors will keep them in the legal range i was thinking maybe there was an easy way to cap the level at -12 so its DV legal (or cap at any other level for watever purposes) so far i didnt see anything on this - so im guessing it just a matter of playing with the levels manually or with the automation tools.... __________________ Trey Perrone

November 6th, 2004, 10:12 PM	#1365
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There's the compressor audio effect. You may also need to simply reduce the master volume some as well. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters