Adobe Premiere discussions from 2002

fargogogo · July 11th, 2002, 08:47 AM

Premiere lets you trim away all the video you didn't use, leaving just the source clips you need.

Project>Utilities>Project Trimmer

Then maybe you can save the whole project to just a few DVDs?

Good luck.

fargogogo · July 12th, 2002, 06:10 AM

Are you capturing using square pixels instead of rectangular? That can throw your aspect ratio off slightly.

Bradley Miller · July 15th, 2002, 04:51 AM

Windows 2000 / Premiere 6 / 1.6Ghz processor with 2 gigs DDR ram

Once I have an edit finished I export it to a Microsoft DV AVI, at which point I can do whatever I need. However some times exporting can take VERY long, or go at almost playback speed. Also, some times the monitor shows the actual point during the exporting, other times it stays on the first frame. Can anyone explain what I am doing differently?

Example: 4 minute finished edit takes 5 mintues to export and shows the current frame on the monitor. 8 minute finished edit takes 45 minutes to export and the monitor stays on the first frame.

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell · July 15th, 2002, 09:34 AM

Hello:

Brad, do you notice this happening if you render the edit first, then export? Or are you just exporting the work area? This will make a little difference. Also, what is the content of what you're exporting? That can make a difference: long transitions take longer, long still-frame shots take some time (depending on resolution).

2 gigs DDR ram? Wow. I'm jealous!!

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

Rob Lohman · July 15th, 2002, 03:15 PM

Well... I got 1 gig :) ... but back to the question. Do you by
any chance perhaps have your DV camera or any other DV
device attached to your computer and powered on? It might
be that it is also exporting over your firewire channel to your
camera (whilst it is *not* recording)... this can take massive
amounts of time.

Are you using any transitions, effects etc.?

It might also just be a badly fragmented harddrive. Defragment
often.

Bradley Miller · July 17th, 2002, 02:56 AM

Hmmmm, let's see...

Doconomus, if I am just cutting edits together without any kind of effects, should I still pre-render the work area?

Rob, I do not have a DV camera or deck. I am waiting to check out the new Panasonic 24P camera before I purchase anything. Only 2 months to go! :) I have a very recent fresh install of Win2K and the drives have been defragmented every 2-4 weeks as routine.

Using the two specific examples listed in my first post, the 4 minute finished edit has TONS of video and audio effects and crossfades, but renders very quickly. The 8 minute edit was only a couple of direct cuts and no audio work.

Rob Lohman · July 17th, 2002, 05:27 AM

I think it has to do with preview files then. Perhaps you have
previewd a lot of stuff in that other file and Premiere uses those
files for the output as well?

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell · July 17th, 2002, 07:47 AM

Hello Brad:

Another thought. Make sure that your "Work Area" (the yellow bar on top of the timeline window) ONLY covers the area you want to export. If you have that yellow bar over areas that don't have any video - just blank space - it takes forever to export. This might just be a slip-up on your 8 minute video.

Previewing the work (pre-rendering) I believe is good for, well, preveiwing transitions. Also, its good to do this when you know for certain that you're not going to edit a certain area again. If you render, lets say, the first 4 minutes, then, finish editing the last four minutes, you could pre-render. However, I've always found that just exporting the work all together is usually faster. In fact, I sometimes just export the "Work Area" as my method of previewing. So, all in all, I don't really pre-render anything. I'm not sure if this is a good method, but its what I don't do, and it works.

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

Steve Siegel · July 21st, 2002, 07:53 PM

Can anyone tell me how to impart slow motion to a clip in Premiere 6.0? I've tried clip>advanced options>interpret footage, and adjusted the frame rate, but although the clip gets stretched out in the timeline, all the action remains at full speed in the beginning of the stretched clip and the rest is black!

Thanks for any insight into this.

Steve Siegel
Miami, FL
OPORORNIS@YAHOO.COM

Hannes Löhr · July 22nd, 2002, 03:01 AM

Right click clip select velocity. Negative values reverses the clip.

Steve Siegel · July 22nd, 2002, 05:47 PM

Thanks, it works fine. Don't know how i could have missed that one!

Jim Steffel · July 25th, 2002, 01:25 PM

Newbie question - Why does the subject appear wider than normal when viewing the clip on the PC?
The clip was shot in Frame mode, auto.
Viewed in NTSC 33 format.
Please help.

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell · July 25th, 2002, 06:56 PM

Hello:

What is NTSC 33 format? Without knowing what that is, the only thing I can think of is that you shot in 4:3 frame mode and you are exporting the clip as 16:9. Won't that stretch out your subject?

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

Rob Lohman · July 26th, 2002, 03:58 AM

Or that you shot in 16:9 but imported the project as 4:3.....

Ed Smith · July 27th, 2002, 01:00 PM

Or you could mean that you can see more in the capturewindow than outputing to your TV.

Reason being that the frame size on a TV is much smaller than that of full DV quality resolution.

All the best,

Ed Smith

July 11th, 2002, 08:47 AM	#151
fargogogo Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 49	Project trimming Premiere lets you trim away all the video you didn't use, leaving just the source clips you need. Project>Utilities>Project Trimmer Then maybe you can save the whole project to just a few DVDs? Good luck.

July 15th, 2002, 04:51 AM	#153
Bradley Miller Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rockwall, TX, USA Posts: 77	Exporting in Premiere Windows 2000 / Premiere 6 / 1.6Ghz processor with 2 gigs DDR ram Once I have an edit finished I export it to a Microsoft DV AVI, at which point I can do whatever I need. However some times exporting can take VERY long, or go at almost playback speed. Also, some times the monitor shows the actual point during the exporting, other times it stays on the first frame. Can anyone explain what I am doing differently? Example: 4 minute finished edit takes 5 mintues to export and shows the current frame on the monitor. 8 minute finished edit takes 45 minutes to export and the monitor stays on the first frame.

July 15th, 2002, 03:15 PM	#155
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Well... I got 1 gig :) ... but back to the question. Do you by any chance perhaps have your DV camera or any other DV device attached to your computer and powered on? It might be that it is also exporting over your firewire channel to your camera (whilst it is not recording)... this can take massive amounts of time. Are you using any transitions, effects etc.? It might also just be a badly fragmented harddrive. Defragment often. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 17th, 2002, 05:27 AM	#157
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I think it has to do with preview files then. Perhaps you have previewd a lot of stuff in that other file and Premiere uses those files for the output as well? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 21st, 2002, 07:53 PM	#159
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	slow motion in Premiere 6.0 Can anyone tell me how to impart slow motion to a clip in Premiere 6.0? I've tried clip>advanced options>interpret footage, and adjusted the frame rate, but although the clip gets stretched out in the timeline, all the action remains at full speed in the beginning of the stretched clip and the rest is black! Thanks for any insight into this. Steve Siegel Miami, FL OPORORNIS@YAHOO.COM

July 12th, 2002, 06:10 AM	#152
fargogogo Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 49	Are you capturing using square pixels instead of rectangular? That can throw your aspect ratio off slightly.

July 15th, 2002, 09:34 AM	#154
Kyle "Doc" Mitchell Doconomus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Posts: 100	Hello: Brad, do you notice this happening if you render the edit first, then export? Or are you just exporting the work area? This will make a little difference. Also, what is the content of what you're exporting? That can make a difference: long transitions take longer, long still-frame shots take some time (depending on resolution). 2 gigs DDR ram? Wow. I'm jealous!! Regards, Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

July 17th, 2002, 02:56 AM	#156
Bradley Miller Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rockwall, TX, USA Posts: 77	Hmmmm, let's see... Doconomus, if I am just cutting edits together without any kind of effects, should I still pre-render the work area? Rob, I do not have a DV camera or deck. I am waiting to check out the new Panasonic 24P camera before I purchase anything. Only 2 months to go! :) I have a very recent fresh install of Win2K and the drives have been defragmented every 2-4 weeks as routine. Using the two specific examples listed in my first post, the 4 minute finished edit has TONS of video and audio effects and crossfades, but renders very quickly. The 8 minute edit was only a couple of direct cuts and no audio work.

July 17th, 2002, 07:47 AM	#158
Kyle "Doc" Mitchell Doconomus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Posts: 100	Hello Brad: Another thought. Make sure that your "Work Area" (the yellow bar on top of the timeline window) ONLY covers the area you want to export. If you have that yellow bar over areas that don't have any video - just blank space - it takes forever to export. This might just be a slip-up on your 8 minute video. Previewing the work (pre-rendering) I believe is good for, well, preveiwing transitions. Also, its good to do this when you know for certain that you're not going to edit a certain area again. If you render, lets say, the first 4 minutes, then, finish editing the last four minutes, you could pre-render. However, I've always found that just exporting the work all together is usually faster. In fact, I sometimes just export the "Work Area" as my method of previewing. So, all in all, I don't really pre-render anything. I'm not sure if this is a good method, but its what I don't do, and it works. Regards, Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

July 22nd, 2002, 03:01 AM	#160
Hannes Löhr Tourist Join Date: May 2002 Location: d-46047 Oberhausen, Germany Posts: 3	Right click clip select velocity. Negative values reverses the clip.

July 22nd, 2002, 05:47 PM	#161
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	Thanks, it works fine. Don't know how i could have missed that one!

July 25th, 2002, 01:25 PM	#162
Jim Steffel New Boot Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 10	GL1 to Premiere 6 - Format? Newbie question - Why does the subject appear wider than normal when viewing the clip on the PC? The clip was shot in Frame mode, auto. Viewed in NTSC 33 format. Please help.

July 25th, 2002, 06:56 PM	#163
Kyle "Doc" Mitchell Doconomus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Posts: 100	Hello: What is NTSC 33 format? Without knowing what that is, the only thing I can think of is that you shot in 4:3 frame mode and you are exporting the clip as 16:9. Won't that stretch out your subject? Regards, Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

July 26th, 2002, 03:58 AM	#164
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Or that you shot in 16:9 but imported the project as 4:3..... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 27th, 2002, 01:00 PM	#165
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Or you could mean that you can see more in the capturewindow than outputing to your TV. Reason being that the frame size on a TV is much smaller than that of full DV quality resolution. All the best, Ed Smith

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