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Rob Lohman March 13th, 2002 05:41 AM

Yes, that is possible. But you really want to avoid conversions
in sample rate. Any conversions for that matter, whether
sample rate, video fps or video resolution. Any conversion is
always bad to have (i'm not going to talk about compression
here!). But if really needed, it can be done! Try to get the
best audio applications or plug-ins to do this for you! I doubt
Premiere will have the routines todo this good. It isn't an
audio package afterall. I heard Steinberg WaveLab is pretty
good. But I suggest listening to a true audio expert or asking
one about this.

Ed Smith March 13th, 2002 12:26 PM

You can use sound recorder which comes with windows.

load the file in, click file>save as>> change, then choose the quality (CD quality), click ok and there we go.

Hope this helps,

Ed Smith

Adrian Douglas March 26th, 2002 08:52 AM

Premiere users
 
For anyone using Premiere this guide is quite useful.

http://www.adobe.com/support/techguides/premiere/main.html

Ed Smith March 26th, 2002 12:59 PM

Cheers for the link Adrian

Nathan Gifford April 1st, 2002 11:52 AM

It may depend on what track it is in.
 
I use Cinestream and not Premiere. However, the same techniques may apply.

In CS the general advice is to reserve a certain audio tracks for different sampling rates. Mixing different audio rates in the same tracks is well known for causing unusual and undesirable audio effects. By reserving these tracks for 32KHz these problems are avoided.

When rendering to the master audio track (AP) which can be set to 48KHz for the project, the system mixes the audio without resampling.

I am sure that probably applies for Premiere as well.

Nathan Gifford

fargograf April 1st, 2002 03:38 PM

Thanks for the responses. It sounds like mixed audio will work!

mdreyes23 April 8th, 2002 08:24 AM

Audio Editing in Premiere
 
Okay, here's another newbie question regarding audio editing in Premiere.

BackGround: Say you have DV footage with 2 distinct voices. Like maybe a person talking and then an animal making noises in the background.

Question: Is it possible in premiere to edit the audio to remove only the sound for the person talking and keep all other sound in the DV footage? I tried using the Notch/Hum filter but it didn't seem to work. That's probably not suitable in the case. If it's not possible in premiere is it possible at all? If so, can most audio editors take care of this?

mdreyes23 April 8th, 2002 08:26 AM

White Balance correction in Premiere?
 
Okay, so I have DV footage that I took with White Balance all screwed up. Can White Balance be corrected in post using Premiere or After Affects? I have both...can somebody send me directions?

Adrian Douglas April 8th, 2002 09:07 AM

Audio isn't one of Premiere's strong suits. You best bet is to export the audio track and try to do it in some other audio application like Cool Edit Pro or Pro Tools

mdreyes23 April 8th, 2002 09:09 AM

Can you export the audio from DV footage (in Premiere) in .wav format or something suitable for most audio apps?

Rob Lohman April 8th, 2002 09:16 AM

I think Premiere has some basic color correction tools (I haven't
looked at these yet). After Effects (especially the production
bundle version) has some very good color correction tools
available to do all sort of things. Try out a demo version of the
product! Always best to try and get the result (as close as
possible) your looking for whilst filming ofcourse.

Good luck!

Rob Lohman April 8th, 2002 09:18 AM

Yes you can. Export timeline -> Audio.

mdreyes23 April 8th, 2002 09:58 AM

thanks. missed that one.

mdreyes23 April 8th, 2002 10:01 AM

Thanks. I do have a full copy of after effects 5.5 production bundle but haven't tried it extensively yet.

Actually, i haven't even tried to import premiere footage but I'll probably be able to figure that out. I just haven't gotten around to that yet. I'll post more questions if I have trouble.

Adrian Douglas April 8th, 2002 10:01 AM

Sorry, I should have mentioned that. It's for exactly the reason you need it. Thanks for that Rob.

Gerald Godbout April 8th, 2002 06:57 PM

Poor Playback Quality in DV Playback
 
When I capture video through my XL1s (PAL) and Panasonic Mini DV Player (NTSC) into Premiere. I get these Horizontal Lines that only get worse after I Render my work. The Lines appear mostly in Action Sequence or Bright Areas. Now I capture the same footage through DAZZLE 2 and it looks fine. Can Anyone help me???
I'm using a SONY VAIO which is running on WINDOWS 2000. I took off Windows XP that came with the computer. Didn't like it much...

Rob Lohman April 9th, 2002 01:50 AM

Importing a Premiere project is very easy. Just open the project
in AE. It will automatically recognize it as a Premiere file and load
it correctly. The only thing it will not do is make transitions and
fades for you. There will be filters created for these, but they do
not seem to do anything at all.

Rob Lohman April 9th, 2002 02:03 AM

I am suspecting that you are referring to interlacing lines. Does
this primarely happen when you either movie the camera or
something else is moving around? If so, you should only see this
on your PC and not on a TV. This is perfectly normal. If you are
going for a web/PC release instead of a TV you need to either
de-interlace your movie or lower your resolution. The last one
will probably be the best since you probably want to do that
anyways for a PC or WEB delivery. If you are going to release
to TV or DVD you can stay in the interlaced domain if you want.

Bill Ravens April 9th, 2002 07:04 AM

Rob....

what you need is a product called Video Finesse available from Synthetic Aperture. This is a software based proc amp, vector analyzer and waveform monitor. It will allow you to do some amazing things to adjust your color, including black pedestal, knee and gamma. Video Finesse is a plug-in for Premier.

Rob Lohman April 9th, 2002 08:24 AM

Thanks Bill! I will check it out.

James Rulison April 9th, 2002 10:49 AM

Is Mini DV Just Mini DV? (With regards to Premiere.)
 
So here I am just sitting here trying to figure out the best way to edit my video clips. Let me give you the break down of what I have.

Camera: Canon XL1s (For shooting only)
Camera: JVC Cybercam (For loading into the PC)
System: P4 1.5 Ghz, 768 MB RAM, 60 GB 7200 Ultra 133 HD, 32 MB Geforce2 Twin Head, Plextor CD-RW, Creative DVD Drive, Pinnacle DV200 FW Card, and a Sound Blaster Live 5.1.
Operating System: Windows XP
NLE: Premiere 6.00 - 6.02.

When running on a Windows 2000, P III 600 I had no problems I moved to the faster rig and the newer OS problems. I did do some problem free editing a week ago. The only thing I can figure out that I have changed is I added the DV200 drivers. I have uninstalled the drivers and I still have the problems that several people have noted before and what Adobe called a XL1 problem.

So if that is true why was able to edit fine before and now Jagged Pictures Presents?

I thought Mini DV was Mini DV. If I shoot in a Canon XL1s are my shots going to suffer because I am using a JVC Cyber Cam to dump them into the computer? If I get a JVC Dual Deck (Mini DV, SVHS) are my shots going to look worse? Will the computer be able to read the tape?

Your thoughts?

Best regards,
James Rulison

Adrian Douglas April 9th, 2002 11:46 AM

Mate, I'd go back to Win2000. The Pinnacle drivers for XP are new, so is XP. Go back to Win2000, give it about 6 months, then try XPagain with service packs, updated drivers etc.

It most likely isn't an XL1 with Premiere problem

James Rulison April 9th, 2002 11:56 AM

But see here is the problem, I really think it's a Pinnacle issue. If I use the Pinnacle drivers and upgrade Premiere at all 6.01 or 6.02 (Windows 2000 or XP) suddenly I have to render the entire clip without adding anything to the clip just the clip. If I press preview it wants to render every frame.

It wasn't doing this a week ago when I was in a rush to edit a colorguard clip for a local highschool.

I think I am going to have to start over from scratch again unless I can figure out away to get the Pinnacle drivers out. I tried uninstalling them and then uninstalling Premiere, but after I re-installed premiere I saw the Pinnacle logo come back.

Best,
James

Adrian Douglas April 10th, 2002 01:38 AM

I've had a DV500 for the past couple of years and the drivers are a never ending source of problems.

Version 1 drivers sucked, 1.1 was a little better, 1.2 worked well with Prem 5.1c, 2.0 works well with 5.1c(what I am using now), 3.0 didn't work with 6.0 and my old motherboard. I've since replaced the motherboard but my Prem 6.0 disk was damaged when my PC came from Australia so I haven't tried that combo.

The trick with Pinnace drivers is to find a combo that works for you and stick with that. If I was you I'd consider upgrading your capture card in the near future as the DV200 is getting old and I can't see Pinnacle supporting it much longer.

If you want to stay with PC, I'd go with something from Canopus and start from scratch. Myself, I'm jumping the fence and going for a Mac/FCP as I think FCP is going to become the DV defacto editing standard, but I'll keep the DV500 system going as a backup.

Gerald Godbout April 10th, 2002 08:11 PM

It Works, you were right, THANKS for you help.....

Ed Smith April 18th, 2002 09:41 AM

EDL's with Premiere 6
 
Hi all,

Situation -
I have edited some footage on my computer at home and am looking at transferring this to another computer at college to finish the editing off.

My question is this -
If I export an EDL from my computer, with all the time codes etc how then will I transfer this on to the computer at college so I can take the footage from the tapes again, and start to edit from where I left off at home?

What EDL would be better?

Is this possible?

What do I need to do?

Do you understand what I mean?

All help is appreciated,

Ed Smith

Chris Hurd April 18th, 2002 10:11 AM

What's at the other end, Ed? Do you have any details about the computer at the college and what sort of NLE system is on it?

Ed Smith April 18th, 2002 10:28 AM

I forgot to mention the most vital part, Doh!!!

Again its Adobe Premiere 6, but on a Matrox RT2500 system.
Basically I'm looking at transfering what I have done at home to finish it of at college.
A basic Premiere to Premiere transfer, but with out my taking my whole system and transfering the files over a network.

Ed

Patrick_Bateman April 18th, 2002 08:10 PM

Xl-1s editing solutions (works with Premiere 6?)
 
Okay, first of all, these are my computer specs:
Silicon Graphics 320 visual workstation, two HD's (10Gb and 40Gb, both 7200 rpm), Digital Origin MotoDV firewire card and Silicon Graphics 1600SW Flat Panel... and ohh, I have a Canon XL-1s.

I'd like to know what the ideal editing solution is, without costing too much. I'm not entirely happy with my current system, might be slow performance of HD's or something, at least it's not playing correctly on the computer.

And, what software does support Canon XL-1s as a deck, to capture from and output to? I've been fiddling with Adobe Premiere 6 but can't possibly get it to work. I use MotoDV to capture now, but the playback performance isn't acceptable.

Any ideas on those things?

Best regards!

Ken Tanaka April 18th, 2002 08:34 PM

Welcome Patrick!
 
What OS are you running on your SGI 320?

p.s. I have used an SGI 1600 lcd on my Dell workstation and have really like it. It's relatively small but crystal clear!

Patrick_Bateman April 18th, 2002 08:38 PM

Ohh yeah, forgot about the OS... I'm running Windows 2000

Ken Tanaka April 18th, 2002 08:50 PM

I moved your post over to this section because I think you'll get more input over here.

Edward Troxel April 19th, 2002 08:56 AM

The Digital Origin Lynx card was not designed to be used with Premiere 6. You will probably have better luck switching to a standard OHCI card which will work directly with Premiere 6. If you have enough money, you could upgrade to a card with some real-time features designed to work with Premiere 6.

Patrick_Bateman April 19th, 2002 10:50 AM

Thanks for the input Edward.

What is really limiting my upgradeability is that the SGI320 workstation has a 64-bit 3 volt PCI slot instead of the regular 32-bit 5 volt. So, the question is, are there any cards I could upgrade to? Or am I doomed to build/buy another system?

Lorinda Norton April 22nd, 2002 01:21 AM

yeah, but...
 
I went to the link and you're right--it is very helpful. Unfortunately, it, and many other sources we've tried, didn't fully address the problem we're having with Premiere 6.

To start, we're running Premiere on two different PCs: Win2K, Aurora Gigabyte 7DX mb, Athlon 1.2 gHz, G-Force 2 & Win98lite, DFI AD70-SR, Athlon 1800(?), don't know sound card. We recently tried the Pinnacle Pro-ONE but pulled it for now because these projects were done in Premiere only.

We've got two projects on different hard drives that are having pretty much the same problem: when we try to render the whole project, or even add clips to the shorter of the two projects, we get the "disk full" error message. We tried trimming the files on one, moving to 60 gig drives, splitting up the sample files from the rest of the project (onto two drives).

Other things we've tried, based on tips from Adobe, Pinnacle, and other sites:

-making sure audio compression is set at uncompressed
-making sure our sound card and other drivers are current
-using Virtual Dub
-checking out the video CODEC, making sure there was no cropping in the export setting

I've probably left out something; we've tried so many different things!

Yes, the files are large because we captured over three hours worth, then edited the one project to 1 1/2 hours, but when we get the error message on that one and check it out, we've still got over 11gigs free on the hard drive.

One Premiere guy went so far as to say they need to fix the program because it gives out the "disk full" error message when it doesn't know what else to say, but that's as far as he went. We're getting a little frustrated over here--anyone got some advice we can use?? Do I need to buy an 80 or 120 gig hdd?

urbanachiever April 22nd, 2002 03:12 AM

is your system drive full?
 
its a basic thing which i have overlooked on occasion,

is your temp (scratch) disk full? or is the disk on which your win2k swap file is full?


hope this helps,


igor'

Adrian Douglas April 22nd, 2002 08:17 AM

Try partitioning your system drive and setting the partition as the swap file. Set the partition to 3x the amount of RAM you have, i.e. for 512MB RAM set your swap file partition to 1536MB.

I had similar problems ages ago and since doing this all has been well (touch wood).

This is not a sure fire fix, just a maybe, but buy the sounds of it, it's better than nothing.

Lorinda Norton April 22nd, 2002 09:04 AM

Adrian,

As much as I appreciated "igor's" reply, my first thought was, "what's a swap file?" Ignorance is not bliss :-)

We'll try your suggestion and let you know.

Thanks, both of you, for the help!

Adrian Douglas April 22nd, 2002 10:21 AM

So I guess you found out what I was talking about.
If not, any computer shop should be able to set this up for you.

Just remember the golden rule.

BACK UP your important files before changing partitions.

urbanachiever April 22nd, 2002 01:06 PM

clarify
 
first, i appoligize for my spelling

now,

to check what hd your swap file (thats the file on the hd windows uses as a slower extesnion of your PC's primary memory (RAM))

1)right click on my computer
2)select properties
3)select advanced
4)select performance options

click on CHANGE button near Virtual Memory Section


Ok, now you see the size and location of the swap (or page) file

make sure the drive the swap file is on has free space, the more the better.

also, i believe, but don't remeber, that in premier you can set the following:

temp (scratch) or somesuch folder, and video/audio storage folder
make sure there is space on the HardDrive where those are set as well.

hope this clarifies things a bit,

igor'


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