Hi:

If I understand you correctly, here's one way you could do it. First off, of course, capture all of the individual frames you want by "Export Frame" with premiere -- or whatever method you use. Lets say that you have 7 frames from your VX2000 footage that you want to scroll across the screen. Make 2 groups of 4 frames each. The two groups will consist of Group 1: frames 1, 2, 3, 4 Group 2: frames 4, 5, 6, and 7. For the two groups join the frames into one long image of the 4 frames, making a line. Start the group image 1 at the beginning of the first frame and have it end when image (frame 4) is in the middle of the screen. Then, begin Group 2 with its first frame (image, frame 4) in the middle of the screen moving at the same rate as Group 1. This method breaks up the long strand of a gigantic image into parts. The trick is, is making everything look. Not sure if this is more efficient or not.

Another way to do it, is to alternate between V1A and V2 (the superimpose track). Have the first frame scroll across in the V1A track, then time the V2 frame to cross at the same rate as the V1A but seamlessly right behind it. Then, alternate back. This might work. It should look good if the captured frames you have are fullscreen. Also, make sure your the opacity of the superimpose track is consistant and at 100%. Hope this suggestions help . . .

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

Almost!

It is well up for it apart from the firewire ports and graphics card (possibly). Avid is very fussy about these two components. Check there website for ones that work. I use a Matrox G400 Dual Head and a pyro DV card and it works.

I'e forget premier and go for Avid if you are serious about editing.

Ben

Also..


Try making a targa sequence with you footage.
then bring them into photoshop and make a 480x???? document
and place your singled out frames one by one next to each other.

Then in either Premeire or After Effects you can scroll this image.
and then you can make another in which you can seem up consecutively
with each Photoshop image one after the other.

Frame Capture in Premier
 

When I capture a frame of DV using Premier 6.0 the resulting BMP picture is slightly horizonally "squashed". I've been unable to compensate for this in my photo editor software.

Has anyone any tips on how to "un-squash" those BMPs?

Thanks

I second the endorsement - go for the Avid XDV v3. Solid and completely transportable with any Avid system. We've been using ours for about 5 months with no problems at all. Be sure to install W2K Pro 2.

Which camera are you shooting with? Do you shoot in widescreen
(16:9) mode or not? Are you in PAL or NTSC, what resolution are
you exporting those bitmaps in? Premiere tends to default to
640x480 for a bitmap which is *not* the correct size! It either
needs to be 720x480 (NTSC) or 720x576 (PAL).

Thanks for the respones guys (or gals.) I'll look into using AE once i actually get some footage ;) However I should've mentioned that what I'm thinking of doing would be taking images from a 5-10 minute scene, not just a couple of frames. So I guess that limits some of my options.

thanks again,
Jake

well, every package has its limits to file sizes before it starts to crash (at least on windows)...so if you've got a ton of frames it may be best to, as Kyle stated, break those up in to smaller subgroups and just time them to take off, one after the other.

* * PREMIERE HICCUP * *
 

If you haven't already found a solution:

The problem may be in your computer's energy saver features. (On Desktop: Right Click, Properties, ENERGY...) Turn these settings, Monitor/Harddisk/Screensaver off. Because they use resources when switching from ACTIVE mode to ENERGY saver mode, I have noticed a speed-bump while transferring back to my XL1S.

Would be nice if you could borrow another DV camera...maybe non Canon type to see if you have the same problem> oops. re-read the post and see that you had already done this. Mabey rent a Cannon camera for a day before you send yours off ?

Another quick thing you can do to see if possibly a setting in Premiere is causing it ( can sometimes become corrupt, causing all kinds of wierd issues) is go into where your EXE for Premiere is located ...you will find a file called Pre60.prm ???? Delete it (with Premiere closed. Then restart, this will clear and reset Premiere settings to their default.

One thing to check I am sure you are using the second drive for the video storage. Make sure you don't have any CD-ROM drives on this IDE chain. CD-ROM drives run at 33 Mghz not 66 not 100 or 133. So if you buy a high speed drive and place a CD-ROM on the same chain you just busted the speed down to 33 Mghz.

IDE goes at the speed of the slowest device.

As a side note I don't have this problem Canon XL1s. However this was the first time I have ever outputed anything to my XL1s. I purchased a cheap JVC CyberCam $299 for uploading my video.

Best,
Big James

Trouble with Playback with Premiere
 

We're running Premiere 6.0 on the following system:
PIII 750 (desktop cpu in a laptop), 128 RAM, 9.0 G IDE HD, Adaptec FireConnect OHCI 1394 CardBus

We've had no trouble controlling the camera with device control and capturing clips, with minimal to no dropped frames.

However, when we try to playback clips (either from the timeline, or the bins) it's as jerky as web streaming with a slow modem. We checked the actual clips and played them back using QuickTime (outside of Premiere) and they seem to play fine.

We read one post that had to do with "de-interlacing" (changing render settings from 'lower field' to 'no field') but we weren't exactly sure where and how to do this. Also, we haven't rendered any clips so we're not sure if this advice applies.

Any thoughts on what the problem might be?

Thanks.

Premiere + XL1 + Win2k Pro + Pyro DV = BOOM!
 

Ok... here's the deal. I use a ADSTech Pyro Basic DV OCHI Firewire card and Windows 2000 Pro. While my computer was in the shop I needed to edit so I took the firewire card and my camera (XL1) to my friend's house who also has Windows 2000 Pro and Premiere 6. I popped in the card, booted the system and viola I was editing without having to d/l anything. Now I get my computer back, pop in the card, computer recognizes the card, but not my camera. It knows the card is there but when I plug in the camera it tries to install it as a new DV devices, now I tried installing it the way windows wants and it doesn't work. Also tried not installing it as a new dv device and it still won't work. I can't capture or dump!! It's like the camera needs a driver... but why would it be so different on two computers that are practically identical??? I've tried all these different patches and updates with no success.... please help cuz I'm going on vacation tomorrow (WED 6/19) and want to dump some stuff to show to some people but I can't unless I get this to work!!!

P.S.
My video card is an ATI All-In-Wonder and the message Premiere tells me is, "The DV device is unavailable for Device Control"

Premiere 6 rendering
 

I'm sure this is something really simple, but I am apprently triggering it and have no idea what I am doing to cause this.

Let's say I have a timeline with 6 shots. Let's say that in between each shot rather than cutting, I am doing a simple dissolve.

Why is it that sometimes I can change/modify the dissolve effect, tell it to "render work area" and it does a real quick render of just that effect, while on other days it would render all 5 effects, even though I maybe only changed the last one?

Thanks in advance. It's got to be something simple. :)

I guess I need more details about how you have things set up. Or more coffee... morning bites.

How long are the shots, how are they arranged in the A and B track, or are you using single track? For example: In track A, I have five short clips, in track B I have one long clip. I can move any individual clip in A track, and only have to re-render that clip. If I move the long clip, all of the clips above it would now be affected, and have to be re-rendered.

You can also preview transitions and effects by holding the alt key while scrubbing, without having to render the preview.
I hope any of this helps.
Keith

Hello:

Are you adjusting your "work area bar" (the yellow bar above the timeline) at all whenever you go to modify your work? Moving this will specify the area you want to render (such as one transition).

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

MotoDV Adobe Premier LE
 

MotoDV: Is there anything like Premier for dummies? I am totally confused with it, or should I abandon it and try something else. Any suggestions? I find the Panasonic PostBox at work to be super simple to use.

Actually, Premiere is the easiest, most intuitive editor that I have found. I never used the lite version, but if you describe what you are trying to do, maybe we can help.
Keith

Big James:

Interesting. How do you check if your CD-ROM is on your IDE chain? Is there a simple way to change it if it is?

Thanks!

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

premiere 6.0
 

I "borrowed" the full version from work. They also have training tapes I can look at maybe this will help.

Hi,

have you guys managed to suss out your "blue screen / jump cut" issue with the XL-1. If not you may wish to consider the my experience with the DVRaptor. It took me over 200 man hours to solve the problem.........WHICH WAS NOT THE XL-1. (OK, OK is was my spelling mistake in the ini file that took me 180 hours to find.)

a) I do not think this applies to NTSC cams but certainly the PAL XL-1 had a problem when using the Canopus DV Raptor. The problem is that the Canon audio codec is not the same as the Sony standard which seems to be the standard followed by most. I had exactly the same problem and was able to fix this (canopus fix) with a line in the canopus.ini file. The extra line of programming, as I understand it, merely altered the "sync characteristics". Problem gone. Remove the line....problem back. It may well be that your problems are of the same nature, Canon audio codec vs, Sony standard on your capture board.

b) One further thing to look at is forcing your Video and Audio codec's to the top of the list (priority). This is done by (Win98SE) Start>Setting>Control Panel>Multimedia>Devices there you will find both video and audio compression codec's. Double click the one you are using and alter the priority to 1 and make sure you have the box "Use this Audio / Video codec" checked.

c) Yet another thing to check is that your video capture card is assigned to an IRQ of 9 or greater and that it does not share with any other device. In order of priority the PC assigns more resource and priority starting at 15 and ending at 1. I disabled PnP and "forced" my DVRaptor card to IRQ11 and my Soundblaster to IRQ10. This is achieved in the BIOS setup. Sometimes motherboards share slots, for example my AGP slot shares with my 1st PCI slot. When I initially setup the PC I had my Voodoo in the AGP slot and the DVRaptor on PCI slot 1. No can do. Check your MOBO book and ensure that your capture card does not interfere (slotwise) with you display and soundcards.

d) Many motherboards use chipsets that are less than friendly to capture cards, certainly to DVRaptor. When specifying a NLE machine one must take great care to ensure full compatibility with intended capture card. www.tomshardware.com is a great place to check some of this info.

e) To maximise use of your resources it is best to have your Video Files on a HD other than the one hosting your Operating System and that it also does not reside on the same IDE channel. For example I have set my system as follows:

IDE 0 c:> OS drive
IDE 0 d:> CD Rom
IDE 1 e:> Video Data (Project Files, footage etc)
IDE 1 f:> Video Data (Scratch disks)

f) Make sure you are using the latest "80 pin" IDE cable for faster access.

g) Make sure that you have disabled any virus checking software, Microsoft Fast Find, HD powerdown settings etc before editing.

h) In Premiere set your scratch disks to a seperate drive if possible. Also ensure the correct settings of the video codec you use.

IMHO, more problems are created in the incorrect use / setting up of hardware when setting up NLE systems. If I have stated the obvious then forgive me.

Good Luck
Andrew

Holy crap dude, I hear ya.

Well here is what I just found if anyone cares. I re-installed the W2K SP2, problem gone.

Jerky Playback
 

There's a post in the Premier user group about this issue. It has to do with adding a line in the Prem60.ini file which forces Premier to playback all frames. I can't remember the string, but just do a search under "Prem60.ini"

Deleting/Backing up from Premiere
 

I just finished my first short project on Premiere and all the files take up about 40 gigs. Of the 60 caputures I did, I only use part of maybe 40 of them. So, what do I do now? Even if I got a DVD burner, that would take more than 10 discs. Is there a way to print out a list of what avi's are used so I can delete the rest? I don't want to have to back up everything on 50 CDR's just in case I want to edit something later. Plus, this is a 8 minute short. What do people do on a feature!

Thanks for the feedback!

Traditionally, large files are backup on tape. Preferably DLT. These
are quite expensive though, but can house large files. Another
posibility might be to leave the original source as MiniDV tapes
and delete the AVI files. Only store the output file instead of all
the input files.

This is a problem indeed, we just have too limited backup media
available for the filesizes we use. I'm looking into a DVD burner
myself for my files. This will require a lot of DVD-R discs, but will
be cheaper than something like DLT. I wish those next generation
900 GB discs were here or something.

Premiere's project files are plain text files, you could load these
up into notepad or something and see which files premiere is
using.

Good luck.

Create yourself an Generic EDL in Premiere. Load it in notepad, and it should tell you where the file came from and how long you used it, as well as all the transition codes, audio and such like. Print this out and make yourself a check list.

Hope this helps,

Ed Smith

Notebook setup for Premiere
 

Newbie here and I was helping my brother, a flegling film student, with putting together a nice little setup. He is getting a Canon Xl1s with some nice goodies.

My question is on the config for the NLE system.

He has a new Compaq laptop 2800 series with Pentium 4M 1.4Ghz, 256MB RAM, 14.1" TFT display, ATI Radeon 7500 64MB and Windows XP.

I ordered the Pyro Firewire Platinum DV Cardbus that comes with a full version of Adobe Premiere 6 and some very nice extras like Title Deko.

Since the laptop hard drive is neither fast nor big, I also ordered the new Maxtor 3000DV 80GB 7200rpm firewire hard drive that is supposed to be much faster than the first generation external hard drives.

I have heard that a second monitor is necessary and the video chipset is capable of driving two monitors, but I wasn't sure if a 17" was sufficient or I should go bigger. Also, does anyone see if I am missing the boat on anything here?

I know a notebook rig is not typical for video so your help is much appreciated. Thanks.

I use a Sony P3 500 with 192 MBs of RAM using Windows 98SE to edit video using both Premiere and Ulead Media Studio Pro. I have a 100 GB 7200 RPM External Firewire Drive.

Your setup is more than sufficient to edit video. Although, I would personally think that outputing to a TV monitor would be more beneficial than outputting to a computer monitor.

a ntsc monitor is neccessary not a second computer monitor. Just making sure you know the difference, but yeah it seems like a good setup.

Only thing that has me wondering is why you turning a laptop into an editing machine? is it absolutely neccessary? if its because you want to do some editing while traveling, i dont see why this is possible since you are going to be carrying your seperate monitor and external hard drive(s) around.

I am little curious as to why you are going that route. to me it just doesn't make sense.

That dual monitor setup might be a problem. I know for sure that
Windows 2000 cannot handle a dual monitor setup (perhaps it
can with quality drivers) when there is only one graphics card in
your system (which is the case with a laptop!). I myself had a
compaq and now a dell running Windows 2000. Neither systems
gave me the posibility for dual monitor. When I ran windows 98
second edition this was possible!

Now I have *not* ran Windows XP on my laptop yet, so I cannot
tell you if the new OS supports dual monitors of one chip. This
might be a good thing to try before you buy if you want to go
down this route!

Project trimming
 

Premiere lets you trim away all the video you didn't use, leaving just the source clips you need.

Project>Utilities>Project Trimmer

Then maybe you can save the whole project to just a few DVDs?

Good luck.

Are you capturing using square pixels instead of rectangular? That can throw your aspect ratio off slightly.

Exporting in Premiere
 

Windows 2000 / Premiere 6 / 1.6Ghz processor with 2 gigs DDR ram

Once I have an edit finished I export it to a Microsoft DV AVI, at which point I can do whatever I need. However some times exporting can take VERY long, or go at almost playback speed. Also, some times the monitor shows the actual point during the exporting, other times it stays on the first frame. Can anyone explain what I am doing differently?

Example: 4 minute finished edit takes 5 mintues to export and shows the current frame on the monitor. 8 minute finished edit takes 45 minutes to export and the monitor stays on the first frame.

Hello:

Brad, do you notice this happening if you render the edit first, then export? Or are you just exporting the work area? This will make a little difference. Also, what is the content of what you're exporting? That can make a difference: long transitions take longer, long still-frame shots take some time (depending on resolution).

2 gigs DDR ram? Wow. I'm jealous!!

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

Well... I got 1 gig :) ... but back to the question. Do you by
any chance perhaps have your DV camera or any other DV
device attached to your computer and powered on? It might
be that it is also exporting over your firewire channel to your
camera (whilst it is *not* recording)... this can take massive
amounts of time.

Are you using any transitions, effects etc.?

It might also just be a badly fragmented harddrive. Defragment
often.

Hmmmm, let's see...

Doconomus, if I am just cutting edits together without any kind of effects, should I still pre-render the work area?

Rob, I do not have a DV camera or deck. I am waiting to check out the new Panasonic 24P camera before I purchase anything. Only 2 months to go! :) I have a very recent fresh install of Win2K and the drives have been defragmented every 2-4 weeks as routine.

Using the two specific examples listed in my first post, the 4 minute finished edit has TONS of video and audio effects and crossfades, but renders very quickly. The 8 minute edit was only a couple of direct cuts and no audio work.

I think it has to do with preview files then. Perhaps you have
previewd a lot of stuff in that other file and Premiere uses those
files for the output as well?

Hello Brad:

Another thought. Make sure that your "Work Area" (the yellow bar on top of the timeline window) ONLY covers the area you want to export. If you have that yellow bar over areas that don't have any video - just blank space - it takes forever to export. This might just be a slip-up on your 8 minute video.

Previewing the work (pre-rendering) I believe is good for, well, preveiwing transitions. Also, its good to do this when you know for certain that you're not going to edit a certain area again. If you render, lets say, the first 4 minutes, then, finish editing the last four minutes, you could pre-render. However, I've always found that just exporting the work all together is usually faster. In fact, I sometimes just export the "Work Area" as my method of previewing. So, all in all, I don't really pre-render anything. I'm not sure if this is a good method, but its what I don't do, and it works.

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

slow motion in Premiere 6.0
 

Can anyone tell me how to impart slow motion to a clip in Premiere 6.0? I've tried clip>advanced options>interpret footage, and adjusted the frame rate, but although the clip gets stretched out in the timeline, all the action remains at full speed in the beginning of the stretched clip and the rest is black!

Thanks for any insight into this.

Steve Siegel
Miami, FL
OPORORNIS@YAHOO.COM

Right click clip select velocity. Negative values reverses the clip.