Lack of experience makes everything seem difficult, at first.

Even the Vegas Video tutorial whizzes through... only lightly touching an various subjects.

It's almost like they're running a scam to get us to buy expensive tutorials to learn to use the software.

I will give VV3 credit, though. The audio controls are pretty killer, and I am able to get it to do what I need it to.

I think the thing that bugs me the most about the 'no-help help' sections of so many software programs is that even when they do cover the topic you need help with... the instructions often assume you know everything about their software... except the question you are asking.

They'll start out with something like, "click on the XXX icon to do XXX". They often fail to tell you where you can find the XXX icon.

Thank God for the Internet.

Windows ME system. I've re-installed Windows ME. Didn't fix it. I'll try the adobe upgrade next. Thanks Rob.

Again I suggest you move to Windows 2000 Professional. That
is much better for video work. I haven't heard of a lot of people
that use Windows ME succesfully for the work we do. It might
be a good thing to try and get a Windows 2000 Prof. copy some-
where to try before you actually buy one ofcourse. It might also
be that some hardware component is not 100% okay (like your
memory chips. This can result in strange behaviour sometimes).

Good luck.

Frame Hold glitch in Premiere 6.5
 

Hey guys,

I'm having a glitch with premiere 6.5 when I do some editing to clips.

Ok, here is whats going on.

I have a clip that I razor in half then I do a Frame Hold on the second half of the clip to change the frame rate. The problem is that when I play back the clip there is a glitch in there. When I play it back frame by frame and i get to the razor cut there will be 3 frames from the very beginning of the clip at the beginning of the second half of the clip. I've tried some things but i can't fix this. Anybody else ever experience this?



thanx

Canon Elura questions - Premiere capturing and 16:9
 

I've recently gotten back into DV editing with my old Canon Elura. I currently use Adobe Premiere 6.X, Win XP / NTFS. I dropped this technology years ago because at the time the NLE packages seemed over my head - and things were relatively unstable.

First question is: Elura 16x9 widescreen option. Is this a matted implementation or an electronic implementation?

Second question: When capturing into Premiere do I need to do something special for 16x9?

Third question: Progressive-Scan movie mode - when recording on the Elura in this mode do I need to change the capture settings in Premiere to ensure I'm capturing all the frames? I can only select 29.97 or 25 fps.

I'm also wondering - if I want to create anomorphic DVD's - should I use Premiere to ouput the MPEG2 or simply save the DV (AVI) file uncompressed and use TMPEG to do the conversion?

thx. -gh

I haven't done much in Premiere (6.5) yet, so I haven't seen this.
But you might trying to look around the adobe site for support
forums/email for this?

First question: it's an electronic implementation.

I'll have to defer the other questions to those who know Premiere.

Premiere Effect Keyframing Question
 

I would like to know how to use keyframes in Premiere (v6.5) like in FCP3. In FCP you can start the effect from nothing and bring it upto whatever level you decide. So I could gradually shift from black and white back to color. Or from no emboss to emboss, or whatever. I'm not looking for a specific effect, just a way to go from no effect to effect across the board.

I know some effects can be dialed down to the point where it is not noticeable but this isn't the case with all of them.

Any insights?

Thanks,
jake

#! elura is squeezed 16x9 ...

#2 if premiere is set up using OHCI 1394 then it only captures DATA from tape ... you will need to set up your premiere editing project as 16x9 to edit it ( so previews are 16x9 )

#3 if using OHCI 1394 only data is transferred - you just capture at standard NTSC 29.97 /PAL 25 settings ... remember each progressive frames are made of 2 FIELDS so to any NTSC/PAL editor it looks the same as interalce frames ( each made up of 2 fields) .. the only place you will see the difference is when you RENDER ( and that is only if you mix interlace clips with progressive - and that is if you render as progressive because the interlace clips wil now be changed to progressive ... NOTE that rendering progressive frames as interlace does NOT change them ( the 2 fields put together will still be a perfect match)

don't know about the DVD

10 easy steps
 

10 easy steps:

1. Load video onto timeline.

2. Apply desired affect.

3. On the arrow down next to the video track (video 2, 3 1a, 1b etc. Where you fade up and down video), select the diamond shape with a line through it. This now selects the key frames.

4. Move the time line to the place you want to start the effect (I.e. the beginning).

5. Tick the box which has two arrows pointing in opposite directions (below the video track name).

6. In the effects panel set effect to 0%.

7. Go to the end of the video and repeat step 5.

8. Repeat step 6 but set the effect to 100%.

9. If its not a real time effect it will need to be rendered.

10. You should now see the effect go from 0% - 100% of the clip i.e. If you have applied a blur, then the video image will be normal at beginning and then totally blurred out at the end.

Hope this helps, hope it makes sense.

All the best,

Ed Smith

What a-lot of people somehow do not seem to know is this:

When you hold down your left ALT key while scrubbing the
timeline Premiere will render out your effects instantly (ofcourse
how smooth this will go depends on CPU speed etc.). Ie, you
can see effects and filters without rendering.

Thanks for the tips guys. I had previously figured out how to do the keyframing steps as you have described here, but I'm still unsure of how to go from 0-100% with effects that have no controls, such as 'ghosting' or Radial Blur for example. While Radial blur has a slider, its minimum value is 1, which is enough to induce an effect. While there may be ways to reproduce these particular effects through other means in the keyframing fashion I would like, I am more interested in the general process that I could apply to all filters.

Again, thanks for the responses guys. It's nice to have a supportive atmosphere when trying to learn these things.

P.S. Thanks Rob, I did know of this feature, however it was good to mention it again for those who dont as it is a definate time saver.

Resolution Premiere.
 

Hi,

Have you guys/gals ever noticed (or at least for me) that the resoution when using premiere gets a bit bad after rendering out to file? It looks good in the premiere viewport but when I render it out it gets bad and looks "pixel like"

Do you have any other programs you can recomend me?
My capture card is a DV500 from pinnacle and premiere is the defult
program, but I feel I should atleast give some other program a chance.

I need a program that is better for exporting files for my computer (like
mpeg1) I post all my short films on the net and on VHS, I want to take
my quality up a notch...

Well, the other front runner NLE software packages for the PC seem to be Vegas Video and Avid XPress DV. Ulead's Media Studio Pro is full featured but I'm unsure about its stability... my only experience with it is from several versions ago. Canopus also makes a great barebones editing package that comes with their hardware systems, it's very stable.

Andreas,
I use Premiere also and I see that same "pixelation" your talking about. That is only because you are viewing it in premiere. Once you render and record it back to tape, you will see no difference from your original source (providing your camera and connection are all digital). That look is only from the way premiere chooses to compress their video when viewing. View it on TV or on a computer media program like Windows Media Player and you will find that you video looks much better.

Hope this helps.

It also depends on what format/codec you exported it too.

Ok, The problem is not the viewport in Premiere, It looks good there.
When I export to an Uncompressed format (no compression what so ever)
it get's bad.

There are pixel options (like "1.0 Square pixels", "16x9" Pal DV")
Maybe that has something to do with it?

I admit to buying a better system than I can handle. But to my defence, I practice every day and learn new stuff. Only when i get stuck and can't find a solution I ask for help here.

Thank you..
/Andreas

Problems Exporting From Premiere
 

Hi everyone...I'm new to the forum and new to Premiere. I'm using Premiere 6.02 running Windows XP home edition.

The prob: every time I try to export a timeline, Premiere crashes. It doesn't happen immediately...when I attempted to export to CD-ROM it crashed after about 10 minutes or so of crunching. When I tried to export to tape, it crashed after 2 minutes. What's up? Help! Please forgive me...I've used Premiere's name in vain on multiple occassions.

-----Dave.

I'm thinking mulitple things:

1. XP is not the most stable version for video work (yet). And
Premiere 6.02 knows nothing about XP. Premiere 6.5 does.

2. What filesystem are you using (NTFS or FAT)?

3. Disk full? Out of memory?

How much FREE harddisk space do you have on your C: drive?
How much memory?

Hi Rob.

How do I find out what file system I'm using? I know that on my other desktop running Windows 98, it uses a FAT32 filesystem.

As far as the disk, I have 26 GB remaining, and 640MB of RAM.

Is there a fix for 6.02 to allow it to use XP? I WISH I would've known that.

thanks----Dave.

Capture with Premiere 6.5 problems
 

I am new to Premier 6.5 and I shoot on my GL2, but have a ZR45MC hooked to the computer to import. I have no problem capturing from the ZR45 in Vegas Video 3 or Pinnacle Studio 8, but when I try in Premiere it never starts the tape. I can hit play from Premiere as well as FF and REW, all work fine. Anyone else see this probelm?

Thanks!

I'm NOT saying that 6.02 won't work on XP. I'm just
saying that it was out when XP wasn't yet or not very long. If you
right click on a drive in my computer it should tell you what file
system is on it.

How long do you have XP installed? Lots of other programs?

Might even be a virus.

What do you have set under Edit -> Preferences -> Scratch Disks
and Device control -> Device Control -> Options ???

I am using my Canon ZR45MC and have it set to:

Video Standard: NTSC
Device Brand: Generic
Device Type: Standard
Timecode Format: Drop-Frame

Status: Online

But I have tried Setting BRand and Type to Canon ZR25 and Canon Alternate 1. The FF and REW and PLAY work, but no matter what TYpe I pick it never captures when I click record

What processor are you using, and what type of harddrive?

Run a virus check, and if you can run a win doctor.

Uninstall premiere, and then install again, that might work?

Hope this helps,

Ed Smith

Tinkered for a while, and did a LOT of background reading. This is what I came up with:

The video footage i was working with was originally Hi8 analog, converted by a Dazzle card. It converted the footage to MPEG-1. Apparently, Premiere doesn't really like that. When I imported my own miniDV footage, no problem whatsoever. Premiere seemed to like that previous analog/Dazzle/MPEG-1 when it was converted (in another program) to .AVI. Once exported to Premiere, no problem. And...I am happy to say that I didn't have to resort to brain surgery on the system of any kind.

Thanks to everyone for the help and advice. This online community really is better than tech support!

-----Dave.

Maybe stupid, but do you hit play before hitting record? That is
what I must do to get it to work....

Your welcome! Glad you found your problem. Try to tell people
as much as possible about your system/problem. MPEG1 might
have been a valuable clue. I more or less assumed it was DV
material.

Oh well.. Good luck!

Tell me you are serious? Then Premiere is stupid none of my other Capture apps needs me to hit play, what a joke, but I'll try it! VV3 and Studio when you hit record they spin up the CAM.

Well Premier is stupid! I hit play and it starts capturing! DAH! What bad implementation for such a pricey program. Also I noticed that when it is capturing I can't touch anything else or the captur stops. What stupidity form a high end app. Another strike against Premiere! I may be better off capturing in Studio and then use the captured AVI in Premiere.

It is indeed pretty silly, I agree. Glad that worked for you. Suddenly
that idea popped in my head. I remembered have some difficulty
myself upon first use. Heh.

Cheers!

Thanks! It works fine now. I am not happy the way Premiere does captures. You would expect more form Adboe and for the prices they charge! Also the fact that I can not do anything else is insane, even in $79 Studio I can capture awhile doing other things! Well I may just be capturing in Studio or VV# and then when I need Premiere I will import the clips. Thanks again!

18 Minute limit on Premiere 6
 

Does any body know if there is a way to remove/workaround the 18 minute video capture limit in Premiere? Thanks.

There is no 18 minute limit in Premiere. I'm pretty certain the
problem is with your filesystem. Please answer the following:

1. What OS are you running?
2. What version of Premiere?
3. What filesystem do you have on your capture drive? Fat or
NTFS? You can right-click on a drive and select properties to
see this.

The problem is that 18 minutes is 4 GB of needed disc space. Only
NTFS filesystem supports files larger than 4 GB. So you need to
run Windows 2000 or XP and have the drive formatted as NTFS.
Then you can capture as long as you want.

Good luck.

Hi Rob,
Here are the answers to your questions:
1. I am running Windows 98SE.
2. I have version 6.02 of Premiere.
3. The filesystem on my drive is FAT32.
So I guess I need to either ghost my drive and then format it to NTFS or just up the money and finally buy XP.

Thanks!

there are some capture software that can do a "seamless" capture. where it seems like it'll cap a whole tape, but it's just splitting up the files into whatever lenght/size you specify (under the OS size limit of course). i believe (not 100% sure) ulead can do this. i know canopus has software specific to their products that can do this, i would think others (matrox, pinnacle) would have this too, depending on what you're capturing with. either way i'd still pony up and get w2kpro or winxp pro.

edit: also win9x does not support or recognize ntfs.

Re: 18 minute limit
 

G'day Scott,

Not sure if this is your problem or not but I was having a similar run when I remembered I had to tick "Capture as reference AVI" in the capture options. I think thats what it's called, can't check just now as I'm capturing 2.5 hours of a stage show.

Now that said I am using Prem 6.5/storm2, could be differnt to prem 6.

Cheers...Paul.

Thanks Paul...What OS do you use though? That might make a difference.

18 Minute limit on Premiere 6
 

Scott, the reference AVI is a setting introduced by a Canopus card's presence. In my Premiere 6 it shows up as a DV Raptor capture option. It's how Canopus gets around the VfW file size limit, creating a series of files that appear seamless in editing. I run Win2k Pro on NTFS drives and still have a file size issue thanks to the Canopus codec. I can make files of any size, but can only capture up to 2GB per file - except via the reference AVI option, which I don't use.

David Hurdon

Yes, you really need to NTFS, but Win98 does not have that option.

If you do not want to go XP, you could go Win2K.

However, you do not need to worry about the capture limit unless its just too much of a hassle for you. You can capture an entire tape as 18 minute segments and render the entire tape back without the loss of one frame.

Happy Holidays,

Yeah I thought about doing that where i could capture in little 18 minute segments, but that is way too much work for me. I want to start capturing, play the tape and come back 60 minutes later with the whole tape on my HD. I need to do this continusly for several tapes so I can't sit around and start/stop my tape and capture every 18 minutes. That would be a real pain! Well this you guys! You have been a great help. Gotta go XP!

Thanks again!