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Dan Euritt November 14th, 2004 11:54 PM

fwiw, i don't think that you will gain anything by capturing footage with quicktime instead of premiere.

Steven Fokkinga November 15th, 2004 07:44 AM

Mpeg-2 editing in premiere pro
 
Hello everyone,

I have the following problem: on a documentary I edited a while ago I made a final export to mpeg-2 for dvd. Now after the job was delivered and concluded, due to a hard-drive crash I lost all my orignal captured .avi files. That was very nasty, although not a disaster because the job was already concluded and I also still had my source files on the dv-tapes. Now my client would like a shorter version of the documentary. It only involves a few very basic steps; cutting out some parts. So I tried to re-edit my mpeg-file (I know, that's not going to do the quality any good, but this client isn't that picky on that for this low-budget project) but couldn't get any results as premiere screws up the timeline; the audio isn't sync anymore, there are skips and freezes, etc.
Now I'm sure this is because of the intra-frame compressing of mpeg (and the GOP and I-frames, etc.).
My question is if there's any way to do this edit in premiere with a plug-in or mod, or to do it in another program. The only other option I have is to go back to the source dv-tapes but that would take me a week to edit, whereas some cuts in the mpeg-file would take me 5 minutes (on a working program, that is!). I even tried those freeware videosplitting apps who claim to do mpeg but they screwed it up as well. Ideas, anyone?

Steven

Rob Lohman November 15th, 2004 08:10 AM

Where are you located in Holland? You might try loading the
MPEG2 in www.virtualdub.org and have it export it as
an uncompressed AVI file. If that works you'll be set. If not you
will probably need another edit program (I have Vegas here and
it should be able to do this).

Rob Lohman November 15th, 2004 10:36 AM

With digital format you can only capture in DV, although QuickTime
supports DV I don't think you can capture to it (it looks like it
switched to analog capturing which it can't find). If you need a
QuickTime DV avi file on the PC just capture it in AVI, drag it to the
timeline and export as QuickTime DV.

Steven Fokkinga November 15th, 2004 06:30 PM

Hi Rob, I'm from Delft.

I tried virtualdub, but all it says is: "no video frames found in mpeg-file" It says that on multiple mpeg files, also video from another sources (ripped from dvd). Could this be a codec problem? They play normally in media player or other players, just when I try to re-edit them (in premiere) they screw up. Any thoughts?

Steven

PS I don't have Vegas so can't check if that works

Dan Euritt November 15th, 2004 09:25 PM

you do not want to re-encode the mpeg2 file at all... that means you'll need a real mpeg2 editor.

womble is what i use, you can download the free trial and see how it works for yourself... it has a window that tells you what is being re-encoded and what isn't, you should be able to get away with simple cuts-only editing with no re-encoding at all.

of course, that assumes that you have already pulled the mpeg2 files out of your dvd.

canopus also has an mpeg editor that should not do any re-encoding for simple edits.

Will Robertson November 15th, 2004 09:28 PM

Premiere freezes when camera connected
 
I really really need some help on this one. I have my camera connected to my computer through a firewire and I am going out from the camera to a tv. In theory this should work, but instead anytime the computer is connected to the firewire it freezes premiere so it doesn't play anything nothing is being outputted or shown at all. As soon as I disconnected the firewire or turn the camera off Premiere goes back to normal.

Do any of you know how to fix this? Please help! Thank you


WILL

Lars Siden November 16th, 2004 02:41 AM

Hi,

I had that problem with Premiere 6 / 6.5 ... never did fix it for good - a temporary fix that worked for some time was to delelete the firewire driver from "device manager" and let Windows rediscover it. Never had this problem with Premiere Pro


// Lazze \\

Rob Lohman November 16th, 2004 05:12 AM

That's an excellent idea indeed Dan. There is also a program
somewhere called M2Edit I believe. How large is the file?

Mirko Sohr November 16th, 2004 05:48 AM

http://fcchandler.home.comcast.net/stable/

try this one of have a look for the MainConcept mpg2-support for premiere, its working quite nice, u can import every mpg2 file and edit easily

;P

always keep in mind, google is ur best friend :)

Steven Fokkinga November 16th, 2004 07:04 AM

mission accomplished
 
Thanks Rob, Dan and Mirko!

I managed to get it done with the womble-thing! That saved me a week's work!

Many thanks again!

Steven

Mirko Sohr November 16th, 2004 07:09 AM

ur welcome... i hope u can be succesfull, and it useful in ur case

Cliff Hepburn November 16th, 2004 09:33 AM

I always plug in and power up the camera before starting Premiere and never had any problems. Are you starting Premiere before turning on the camera?
HTH
-Cjh

Will Robertson November 16th, 2004 10:26 AM

Usually I'll wait until Premiere is loaded and then plug it in but I've tried it both ways. I'll try what you suggested Lars and see if that helps, thanks.

Dan Euritt November 16th, 2004 11:30 AM

just for drill, make sure you don't have anything else connected to the firewire bus the camera is on... perhaps there is a hardware conflict.


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