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Eric Gorski February 12th, 2005 10:51 PM

i love obin... and his camera... well.. especially his camera..

Maheel Perera February 12th, 2005 11:04 PM

I am also very much interested in Obin's Camera. But let's get back to James's Micro 35 please.

Steev Dinkins February 12th, 2005 11:11 PM

Amen

Joshua Starnes February 13th, 2005 01:08 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : I hope you see my POV. -->>>

Oh, I do, and I eagerly await your camera just like every one else around here. I was just needling you a little bit. :)

James Hurd February 14th, 2005 12:21 AM

Weekend Update:

Got the OCT19 Mount Finished...

Check it out:
3D-Model www.micro35.com/oct19/oct19.zip
www.micro35.com/oct19/back.jpg
www.micro35.com/oct19/side.jpg
www.micro35.com/oct19/rail_matte.jpg
www.micro35.com/oct19/micro35.pdf

Here's a pdf of the final "Pre-Assembled" rails. It's shown with the OCT19 mount. It looks small in the picture but the mount is actually 4" in diameter.

Doing the OCT19 mount has proven to be huge step forward. It allowed me to fit the micro35 with a real matte box and follow focus unit. So I ended up having to design this rail system.

I've gotten plenty of requests for the software monitor, so it looks like its a go.

John Sandel February 14th, 2005 12:28 AM

The stills look good, James. The 3D model link led to a "Page Cannot Be Found" message.

James Hurd February 14th, 2005 12:32 AM

Try now. I zipped it.

Added the .pdf too.

John Sandel February 14th, 2005 01:56 AM

Both links work fine now. The 3D model is well done.

When I unzipped the .exe file, I couldn't run it on my G4 Mac. What am I missing?

Kyle Edwards February 14th, 2005 02:33 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Sandel : Both links work fine now. The 3D model is well done.

When I unzipped the .exe file, I couldn't run it on my G4 Mac. What am I missing? -->>>

a PC.

Justin Neri February 14th, 2005 07:35 AM

quick question...
I have a canon L2, the quality is pretty decent..but im thinking about getting a dvx100a. This adapter is a must.
do i really need a top of the line camera if im gonna use the adapter? 3k is a lot of money for me to dish out. plus i have a lens for the canon with a built in macro that is super powerful.
-so should i get the dvx for use with this system or will it be overkill? will it give me the same output when used with the adapter?

James Hurd February 14th, 2005 09:48 AM

The DVX is awesome. You won't always use an adapter....

John Sandel February 14th, 2005 10:54 AM

What am I missing?
 
Ha! ...

I meant what's the content of the file? James?

James Hurd February 15th, 2005 11:48 PM

Hey guys,

I finished machining the first set of rails. I'll have the base powder coated this weekend.

The base is adjustable for different cameras.

www.micro35.com/pics/rails_side.jpg
www.micro35.com/pics/rails_back.jpg
www.micro35.com/pics/adj_base.jpg

The nice thing about this setup is that you can use it without a micro35...

Almost there!!

John Sandel February 16th, 2005 01:04 AM

James, what do you think an assembled Micro35 rig will weigh?

Rob LaPoint February 16th, 2005 05:34 AM

Hey James the new rail system is looking really good. I am just wondering if this is affecting the shipment of the micro 35 guides, or are you still just waiting on the printer to get them done? Keep up the great work man!

James Hurd February 16th, 2005 11:04 AM

My guess is about 15lbs with my camera. With the new rail base, it's probably a few pounds lighter.

My partner is handling the guides and I believe they're at the printers. So my full steam ahead has no affect on the guides. ;)

Thanks guys!

Joel Aaron February 16th, 2005 11:08 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by James Hurd : My guess is about 15lbs with my camera. With the new rail base, it's probably a few pounds lighter.

My partner is handling the guides and I believe they're at the printers. So my full steam ahead has no affect on the guides. ;)

Thanks guys! -->>>


Can your magiqcam handle that weight OK? (I think you've got of those, right?)

Craig Bellaire February 16th, 2005 12:58 PM

$45.00 Adaptor
 
Just wondering if this is still a $45.00 adaptor? Let’s see... Custom GG, and now machined rods and base plate... Just thinking out loud..

James Hurd February 16th, 2005 01:03 PM

The magiqcam handles it just fine. You've got to adjust the springs a little with the allen wrench. It actually works better with the added weight.

The rails and custom gg aren't part of the Guide or the device the guide helps you make. Although the output of both devices are nearly identical, the Pre-Assembled units will have the custom gg and rails.

Both however, will be sold (inexpensivly) on the micro35 site for anyone needing them.

james

Imran Zaidi February 16th, 2005 01:35 PM

I think Craig just needs clarification - the $45 is for the guide with all the instructions and other information, not for the actual adaptor itself. It's not a "$45 adaptor" so to speak.

Craig Bellaire February 16th, 2005 01:55 PM

NOPE
 
I understand that... BUT it was stated that all updates would be included in the GUIDE... and now we are having machined parts and a different GG NOT IN THE GUIDE and that is not what was stated. What this thread started with was a $30.00 adaptor guide which went to a 45.00 adaptor guide “NOT OUT YET" which DOESN"T include the instructions on the new GG or the new Rods/ Rails... Maybe I am misunderstanding but once the new GG and Machined parts have been introduced to this thread it doesn't seem to me that this is a 45.00 guide that will show you how to make a 45.00 adaptor... Just maybe the business aspect, which I'm am not against has pushed this Guide plus parts to much more then what has been stated... and yes I'm gonna buy the guide as soon as it starts to be mailed.... The silly thing about me is that I have 2 Xl2's down stairs and a mini 35 400 series...WHY... because of my work...not at home. Plus I didn't feel too good about spending $10.000 on a $5.000 camera... AND I like to beat the system just like you...Anyway maybe I am misunderstanding.

James Hurd February 16th, 2005 02:04 PM

Craig,
Let me clarify.

The guide describes how to make the adapter I used to make to horse video. I'd said that anyone who bought the guide would have access to any advances in the system. This includes vendors etc. So if you buy a guide and you don't feel like making the GG yourself, then I'll sell you one of my "production" ggs to help you out with your project.

The original DIY adapter hasn't changed except for a modification made two weeks ago by flipping the adapter upside down to handle standard rail setups. The device still costs $45 to build and doesn't require any machining other than drilling a hole.

So to clarify a bit further, anyone that buys a "kit" will get the latest parts. Anyone that buys a "Pre-Assembled" unit will get the latest parts AND the macro and rails.

Sorry if I've made it a little confusing.

James

Craig Bellaire February 16th, 2005 02:07 PM

Perfect..
 
Thanks so Much...

John Sandel February 16th, 2005 02:32 PM

Micro35 on MagiqCam
 
"My guess is about 15lbs with my camera ... The magiqcam handles it just fine."

Yes, I've noticed that heavier cameras are a little easier to smooth-out on my Series II arm (the older, 2-part arm John Gardner made).

James, when you flew your Micro35 on the stabilizer, what camera did you mount & did you have any accessories on there with it? I know you're really busy, but if you were able to post any photos of your Micro35 on a MagiqCam, that would be a wealth of information.

James Hurd February 16th, 2005 02:41 PM

John,
Check your email.

James

John Sandel February 16th, 2005 04:27 PM

Got it. Thanks!

This is all looking very good, James. You must be exhausted.

Obin Olson February 16th, 2005 10:43 PM

what is the cost for you to build me a system James? and do you have a date for the book yet? I have more projects coming and I sure would like to shoot with the micro35!

Brett A. Noe February 21st, 2005 05:04 PM

Current Guide Status.
 
Haven't heard anything for awhile. Do we have a guide ship date yet? The original ship date was the 1st. It's now the 21st. Getting a wee bit antsy here. :)

Brett

Steev Dinkins February 21st, 2005 05:10 PM

Bababababa. I've just kinda figured my $45 is gone with the wind.

Obin Olson February 21st, 2005 08:29 PM

don't be so fast to assume..I have been talking with James today many times in email...could he be a COMPLETE scam? yes .anyone can..it's easy...but I don't think this guy is...really...

Steev Dinkins February 21st, 2005 08:31 PM

Heh, no, I don't think he's pullin a scam. I've just lost my enthusiasm and haven't been thinking much of it at all. I'm sure it'll be cool once it's ready and shipping/building/etc.

James Hurd February 21st, 2005 10:55 PM

Okay Guys,
I'm back. I've been busy finishing the first Pre-Assmebled unit. Check it out:

www.micro35.com/lomo.htm

Guide update:
I've got the shipping materials ready to go, just waiting on the guides to arrive from printing.

Thank you so much for your patience.

James

James Hurd February 21st, 2005 10:56 PM

Okay Guys,
I'm back. I've been busy finishing the first Pre-Assmebled unit. Check it out:

www.micro35.com/lomo.htm

Guide update:
I've got the shipping materials ready to go, just waiting on the guides to arrive from printing.

Thank you so much for your patience.

James

Joshua Starnes February 21st, 2005 11:00 PM

Looks great. I've got a question about the Lomo version - I've got access to a few Lomo lenses and I'd rather use those than still lenses. Will it work with any mount, just the OCT-19 mount, any of the OKC mounts? Which Lomo lenses will it work with? Thanks.


Actually, now that I look at the pictures again, I've got a completely unrelated question. Is that a Konvas matte box you're using in those pictures, or is it something else? Because I've been looking for a good matte box to use with Lomo lenses besides the standard issue Konvas one.

James Hurd February 21st, 2005 11:13 PM

Joshua,

On the LOMO mount, the guy I'm building it for sent me the OCT19 mount off of his 35mm movie camera. I haven't done any other research on them. I do know that the 50 lens he sent me to test with has very fast glass. I had to use an ND filter to test with.

The matte box is a Chroziel. It's seems very solid.


James

John Sandel February 22nd, 2005 12:25 AM

Joshua, I'm not familiar with Lomo lenses. Why do you prefer them over still-camera lenses? Gearing, etc? Image quality?

Jochen Stolle February 22nd, 2005 10:35 AM

Can't open www.micro35,com
 
Sorry but since some weeks i often find links to www.micro35.com
but it looks like it's not existing

whats up with it?

Thank you for answer

Jay


P.s. sorry about my bad english

James Hurd February 22nd, 2005 10:38 AM

Jochen,
The site should be up. It's taken on some heavy traffic over the last day.

Keep trying!

Joshua Starnes February 22nd, 2005 10:50 AM

John;

The gearing, the image quality, yeah, that sort of thing. They're cine lenses, built for the medium, so they don't breath. They're very fast, and for the money, very good glass. You can use a follow focus with them, they're built for the 35mm film frame, that sort of thing.

James;

Just out of curiosity, what step down rings did you have to use to get a good fit on the 50 mil?

Jochen Stolle February 22nd, 2005 11:06 AM

www.micro35.com is alife
 
Hi James

Thank you I found it

I ordert the guide. I'm using a Canon XM2 do you have a describtionin the guide? otherwise it would be Interesting to know is there anybody outside still having the adaption or serching for it maybe i can help constructing or building it.

Joshua
The LOMO lenses is it a lens from the Lenigrad opto mechanical product company? Or where does it come from?

thanks

Jay


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