New SG35 'Real Spinning Ground Glass Adapter' Commercial version coming soon.

Declan Smith · December 3rd, 2005, 06:07 PM

That was excellent Wayne. What lens did you have hooked up to the DVX100 ?

Also, what matte box did you use ? Interested in getting one for the XL2.

Wayne Kinney · December 4th, 2005, 05:12 AM

Declan,
We used a Nikon Nikkor S 50mm F1.4 (great lens).

It was not my matte box, but i believe it was a Crossiel matte box.

Thanks,
Wayne

Wayne Kinney · December 4th, 2005, 01:52 PM

Hello,
We tested the SG35 with the Sony z1 (fx-1) yesterday. We shot along Brighton sea front just after sunset to test the SG35's low light performance, which we are pleased about. Below is a short clip we put together:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/SG35_z1.htm

And a Picture of the z1 and SG35 (sorry, its a little dark):

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/z1_sg35.jpg

We used a Nikon 50mm F1.8 lens.

Any comments would be great!

Anthony Bristol · December 4th, 2005, 02:34 PM

Hi Wayne, nice video, did you use any gain to get your subject (Yasser?) visible? I notice the bottom left and right of the image has small some non GG material showing. Did you have any problems getting the GG to fill the Z1's 16:9 frame?

Also, could you explain how you exported your clip? My avi's are 1440 x 1080 and and look fine in PP1.51 but when I export (h.264) the aspect ratio is off, obviously due to the horizontal res of 1440 not being 1920. When I change the settings it just puts black bars on the sides, not filling the frame. Got me stumped :\

Wayne Kinney · December 4th, 2005, 02:55 PM

Hello Anthony, thanks for your comments.

No gain was used on the z1, it was set to F2.0 and the SLR to F1.8. That is indeed Yasser Kassana from this board.

You have a keen eye for detail. That was in fact the edge of the glass disk. The disk in the test unit was slightly smaller then the 95mm diameter of the units that ship. The glass is a few months old now.

Regarding the aspect problem your having, what i do is export the clip out from premiere to after effects, set after effects settings as 16:9 with square pixel aspect (1:1), and interpret the clip as DV widescreen. After affects will then convert the 2 different aspects properly.

Anthony Bristol · December 4th, 2005, 04:02 PM

Taking into consideration how dark it is down in the South these days that's very impressive light loss (or little I should say) :) . Perhaps a "Smoking Kills" disclaimer at the beginning of the footage would be approprate ;-)

Thanks for the tip re encoding i'll be giving it a try now.

Yasser Kassana · December 5th, 2005, 04:18 AM

Yeah there was some more footage, it was raining. The majority of the footage was shot in 50i hence you can see some trails, it was raining we had an umbrella covering the camera, so i'm assuming some of the footage might have been unusable. JUst wondering - we shot some great footage in your house Wayne - that was really really good. Any chance of having a part 2?

Wayne Kinney · December 5th, 2005, 10:31 AM

Here is another low light test we shot indoor.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k..._z1_candle.htm

Robert Kirkpatrick · December 5th, 2005, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

Here is another low light test we shot indoor.

Was the only light from the candle? If so, that's damn impressive.

Does the Z1 (and by extension, the FX1) line up easily with the current SG35 bracket and setup?

Wayne Kinney · December 5th, 2005, 03:49 PM

Robert,
There was a small lamp to one side of Yas, after the candle.

The SG35 lines up nicely with the z1, since its fully adjustable.

Yasser Kassana · December 5th, 2005, 03:55 PM

Yeah there was also the ND Filter on the Z1 as well, do give more of a feel.

Quinn OConnell · December 6th, 2005, 07:59 AM

Nice indoor footage Wayne/Yas.. pretty clean..
mate, it will be good to see some sun someday, see what it can really do..
oH, its all booked in for the shoot on Sat/Sunday, so keep me posted on the ETA.

Q

Wayne Kinney · December 6th, 2005, 08:22 AM

Quinn,
Thanks. I hate December weather here in the UK. Was even raining hard with the outdoor shots of the Peir, we held a brolly over the cam.

The unit will be with you with your new FD mount as well as the original EF mount on Thursday/Friday.

Quinn OConnell · December 6th, 2005, 09:25 AM

Great, my 85mm 1.8 arrived this morning.. and just been down to the Thames to test it out with teh LETUS - what a lens. !. eager to snap it on the SG..

the 135mm F2.5 and 28mm F2 arrive tomorrow so all ranges covered ( easy part over) just need the practice/light to make the images all gel together..

Cheers Wayne,

Yasser Kassana · December 6th, 2005, 11:17 AM

Quinn you've got an xm2 right?

December 4th, 2005, 05:12 AM	#152
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Declan, We used a Nikon Nikkor S 50mm F1.4 (great lens). It was not my matte box, but i believe it was a Crossiel matte box. Thanks, Wayne __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 4th, 2005, 01:52 PM	#153
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	SG35 - Z1/FX-1 - First Test Footage and Pictures Hello, We tested the SG35 with the Sony z1 (fx-1) yesterday. We shot along Brighton sea front just after sunset to test the SG35's low light performance, which we are pleased about. Below is a short clip we put together: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/SG35_z1.htm And a Picture of the z1 and SG35 (sorry, its a little dark): http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/z1_sg35.jpg We used a Nikon 50mm F1.8 lens. Any comments would be great! __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 4th, 2005, 02:55 PM	#155
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Hello Anthony, thanks for your comments. No gain was used on the z1, it was set to F2.0 and the SLR to F1.8. That is indeed Yasser Kassana from this board. You have a keen eye for detail. That was in fact the edge of the glass disk. The disk in the test unit was slightly smaller then the 95mm diameter of the units that ship. The glass is a few months old now. Regarding the aspect problem your having, what i do is export the clip out from premiere to after effects, set after effects settings as 16:9 with square pixel aspect (1:1), and interpret the clip as DV widescreen. After affects will then convert the 2 different aspects properly. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 5th, 2005, 04:18 AM	#157
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	Yeah there was some more footage, it was raining. The majority of the footage was shot in 50i hence you can see some trails, it was raining we had an umbrella covering the camera, so i'm assuming some of the footage might have been unusable. JUst wondering - we shot some great footage in your house Wayne - that was really really good. Any chance of having a part 2? Last edited by Yasser Kassana; December 5th, 2005 at 04:59 AM.

December 5th, 2005, 10:31 AM	#158
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Here is another low light test we shot indoor. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k..._z1_candle.htm __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 3rd, 2005, 06:07 PM	#151
Declan Smith Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gloucestershire, UK Posts: 187	That was excellent Wayne. What lens did you have hooked up to the DVX100 ? Also, what matte box did you use ? Interested in getting one for the XL2.

December 4th, 2005, 02:34 PM	#154
Anthony Bristol Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 38	Hi Wayne, nice video, did you use any gain to get your subject (Yasser?) visible? I notice the bottom left and right of the image has small some non GG material showing. Did you have any problems getting the GG to fill the Z1's 16:9 frame? Also, could you explain how you exported your clip? My avi's are 1440 x 1080 and and look fine in PP1.51 but when I export (h.264) the aspect ratio is off, obviously due to the horizontal res of 1440 not being 1920. When I change the settings it just puts black bars on the sides, not filling the frame. Got me stumped :\

December 4th, 2005, 04:02 PM	#156
Anthony Bristol Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 38	Taking into consideration how dark it is down in the South these days that's very impressive light loss (or little I should say) :) . Perhaps a "Smoking Kills" disclaimer at the beginning of the footage would be approprate ;-) Thanks for the tip re encoding i'll be giving it a try now.

December 5th, 2005, 03:49 PM	#160
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Robert, There was a small lamp to one side of Yas, after the candle. The SG35 lines up nicely with the z1, since its fully adjustable. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 5th, 2005, 03:55 PM	#161
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	Yeah there was also the ND Filter on the Z1 as well, do give more of a feel.

December 6th, 2005, 07:59 AM	#162
Quinn OConnell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 94	Nice indoor footage Wayne/Yas.. pretty clean.. mate, it will be good to see some sun someday, see what it can really do.. oH, its all booked in for the shoot on Sat/Sunday, so keep me posted on the ETA. Q

December 6th, 2005, 08:22 AM	#163
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Quinn, Thanks. I hate December weather here in the UK. Was even raining hard with the outdoor shots of the Peir, we held a brolly over the cam. The unit will be with you with your new FD mount as well as the original EF mount on Thursday/Friday. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 6th, 2005, 09:25 AM	#164
Quinn OConnell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 94	Thanks Great, my 85mm 1.8 arrived this morning.. and just been down to the Thames to test it out with teh LETUS - what a lens. !. eager to snap it on the SG.. the 135mm F2.5 and 28mm F2 arrive tomorrow so all ranges covered ( easy part over) just need the practice/light to make the images all gel together.. Cheers Wayne,

December 6th, 2005, 11:17 AM	#165
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	Quinn you've got an xm2 right?