New SG35 'Real Spinning Ground Glass Adapter' Commercial version coming soon.

Michael Maier · September 19th, 2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

Ill try and get a small dv compressed clip uploaded. but it will be pal 720x576 25fps

No problem. I'm PAL too. Thanks.

Michael Maier · September 19th, 2005, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

Any other popular lens makes?

I think Nikon is the favourite. If you cover Canon as well, I think you have pretty much covered 90% of the low budget market. There's the odd ball Minolta and Pentax, but very few use that.

Wayne Kinney · September 19th, 2005, 06:46 PM

Thanks for the lens suggestion Michael, very helpful,

Wayne.

Michael Maier · September 19th, 2005, 08:46 PM

Hey, an OT question. What's the name of that song on clip #1? Is it a George Michael song? Can't get it off my head.

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2005, 04:15 AM

The music on both clips is Duran Duran, im a big 80's fan;) First song is called 'Come Undone' Second clips song is called 'Reach up for the Sunshine'.

Wayne.

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2005, 05:34 AM

OK,
Here is a 10 second DV compressed clip of the tilt up shot with the flowers, 30MB zip file:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/adapterDV.zip

Its PAL 720x576 25fps.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Michael Maier · September 20th, 2005, 06:59 AM

Thanks Wayne. But you cut it right before where I think I saw the pattern. I saw it on the wall, when tilting.
One thing I noticed, the DV file is no where as sharp as the smaller file. It would be very useful to see the adapter used with a better camera to see how sharp it would be.

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2005, 07:11 AM

Yes,
I wish i had a better cam then my 1 chip panasonic.

Ill try and post some more short clips in DV compression soon, ill double check all my focus to make sure its sharp, maybe an outdoor deep focus as you sujest with the aperture closed a bit.

Bill Porter, is it possible to upload that clip also? Or am i now being checky:D

Thanks,
Wayne.

Bill Porter · September 20th, 2005, 10:10 AM

Anything for a fellow '80's music fan!

http://tinyurl.com/bz9d3

Craig Bellaire · September 20th, 2005, 10:28 AM

Just wondered if you might consider a round box or case for the adapter instead of the square box. I think the square box waste a bunch of space and the round box looks much better. Here is a link for my second attempt with pictures for you to see what it might look like.

http://bellaire.homestead.com/files/...les/X1035b.pdf

I am looking at putting a glass CD in this and staying with a 35mm format...
hope this helps

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2005, 11:16 AM

Thanks for uploading that bill!!!!

Craig, looked at the pictures, looks cool. I wont be using a round box in my commercial version. So are you using a plastic cd on cd player motor in yours?

Wayne.

Craig Bellaire · September 20th, 2005, 11:37 AM

Yes at the moment... I also am using frosted film/window tint instead of grinding the cd. The crispness is very nice and even But not as nice as yours...Also with the Glass concept and the easy flat area on the motor to attach the glass, I'm gonna change to Glass.

By the time I finish my baby will be grown... ha ha ha

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2005, 11:49 AM

Craig,
If you decide to make a spinning glass disk using my method, please keep us informed of your progress, im very interested. Please do so on my other thread, though.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye · September 20th, 2005, 02:11 PM

Wayne,
Ok, could you please update this DV camcorders that your adapter is compatible with?.
For example I have a canon XL2 and I just order the Micro M2 but I was thinking of buying another adapter just incase one is good for outside scene and vise versa .. you get the gist.

So which camcorders can use your adapter?.
How to make payment?
Any warrantee?
When will it be ready (commercial)?

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2005, 02:50 PM

Hello Eniola, thanks for your interest.

As far as im concerned, any camcorder can be used with my adapter. It will be shipped with a 58mm filter thread, so camcorders with different sized theads will need a stepup/down ring. Also, some of the bigger camcorders will require a macro lens, this is so the camcorder can focus on the 36x24mm frame. Once the commercial version is ready, I will provide the buyer with exact distance from filter thread to ground glass, so they can test if there camcorder can focus on a 36x24mm frame from that distance to see if they need a macro lens. I see this as a better option anyway, as it gives the buyer the freedom to choose the macro/acromat that best suits their camcorder and personal preference.

Payments can be made by cheque or postal order (UK) or paypal. As for warrantee, im in the process of gathering information and finalising things, but im a friendly and helpful guy in terms of support for the unit, and also if anything 'may' go wrong then a unit can always be returned. Im hoping for the unit to be ready by the end of this month.

More info on this as it developes....

Thanks,
Wayne

September 20th, 2005, 10:10 AM	#24
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	Anything for a fellow '80's music fan! http://tinyurl.com/bz9d3 Last edited by Bill Porter; September 20th, 2005 at 11:08 AM.

September 20th, 2005, 10:28 AM	#25
Craig Bellaire Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 422	Round Box Just wondered if you might consider a round box or case for the adapter instead of the square box. I think the square box waste a bunch of space and the round box looks much better. Here is a link for my second attempt with pictures for you to see what it might look like. http://bellaire.homestead.com/files/...les/X1035b.pdf I am looking at putting a glass CD in this and staying with a 35mm format... hope this helps __________________ Craig Bellaire www.VerticalVideoSolutions.com

September 20th, 2005, 11:37 AM	#27
Craig Bellaire Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 422	Plastic CD Yes at the moment... I also am using frosted film/window tint instead of grinding the cd. The crispness is very nice and even But not as nice as yours...Also with the Glass concept and the easy flat area on the motor to attach the glass, I'm gonna change to Glass. By the time I finish my baby will be grown... ha ha ha __________________ Craig Bellaire www.VerticalVideoSolutions.com

September 19th, 2005, 06:46 PM	#18
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thanks for the lens suggestion Michael, very helpful, Wayne.

September 19th, 2005, 08:46 PM	#19
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Hey, an OT question. What's the name of that song on clip #1? Is it a George Michael song? Can't get it off my head.

September 20th, 2005, 04:15 AM	#20
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	The music on both clips is Duran Duran, im a big 80's fan;) First song is called 'Come Undone' Second clips song is called 'Reach up for the Sunshine'. Wayne.

September 20th, 2005, 05:34 AM	#21
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	OK, Here is a 10 second DV compressed clip of the tilt up shot with the flowers, 30MB zip file: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/adapterDV.zip Its PAL 720x576 25fps. Thanks, Wayne.

September 20th, 2005, 06:59 AM	#22
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Thanks Wayne. But you cut it right before where I think I saw the pattern. I saw it on the wall, when tilting. One thing I noticed, the DV file is no where as sharp as the smaller file. It would be very useful to see the adapter used with a better camera to see how sharp it would be.

September 20th, 2005, 07:11 AM	#23
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Yes, I wish i had a better cam then my 1 chip panasonic. Ill try and post some more short clips in DV compression soon, ill double check all my focus to make sure its sharp, maybe an outdoor deep focus as you sujest with the aperture closed a bit. Bill Porter, is it possible to upload that clip also? Or am i now being checky:D Thanks, Wayne.

September 20th, 2005, 11:16 AM	#26
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thanks for uploading that bill!!!! Craig, looked at the pictures, looks cool. I wont be using a round box in my commercial version. So are you using a plastic cd on cd player motor in yours? Wayne.

September 20th, 2005, 11:49 AM	#28
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Craig, If you decide to make a spinning glass disk using my method, please keep us informed of your progress, im very interested. Please do so on my other thread, though. Thanks, Wayne.

September 20th, 2005, 02:11 PM	#29
Eniola Akintoye Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Duluth GA Posts: 238	Wayne, Ok, could you please update this DV camcorders that your adapter is compatible with?. For example I have a canon XL2 and I just order the Micro M2 but I was thinking of buying another adapter just incase one is good for outside scene and vise versa .. you get the gist. So which camcorders can use your adapter?. How to make payment? Any warrantee? When will it be ready (commercial)?

September 20th, 2005, 02:50 PM	#30
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Hello Eniola, thanks for your interest. As far as im concerned, any camcorder can be used with my adapter. It will be shipped with a 58mm filter thread, so camcorders with different sized theads will need a stepup/down ring. Also, some of the bigger camcorders will require a macro lens, this is so the camcorder can focus on the 36x24mm frame. Once the commercial version is ready, I will provide the buyer with exact distance from filter thread to ground glass, so they can test if there camcorder can focus on a 36x24mm frame from that distance to see if they need a macro lens. I see this as a better option anyway, as it gives the buyer the freedom to choose the macro/acromat that best suits their camcorder and personal preference. Payments can be made by cheque or postal order (UK) or paypal. As for warrantee, im in the process of gathering information and finalising things, but im a friendly and helpful guy in terms of support for the unit, and also if anything 'may' go wrong then a unit can always be returned. Im hoping for the unit to be ready by the end of this month. More info on this as it developes.... Thanks, Wayne