Ok, I realized that these interlaced frames are called 'judder' frames, which are due to the 3:2 pulldown. I'm assuming they won't show up once the video plays on a DVD player that uses 3:2 pulldown. Great site, by the way. Nice to meet you guys.

I don't know which NLE you're using but I imagine they all work similarly. There are probably a few options to click which in FCP are Source, Matte, Final and something else. Anyways you want to select Final or it's equivalent and it will show you what's what. Good Luck, Jason.

Track 1: Event with ChromaKey effect
Track 2: Event to show in keyed area

You must set the Chromakey so that the correct color is keyed. If you click on "show mask" you can see the exact area that will be keyed and adjust the high and low threshold to get better results. Once the mask is correct, unclick the "show mask" and the second track should be visible in the masked area. You don't need to change any modes on any tracks - they should both be left on Source (Alpha) and the second track does NOT need to be a child.

Peter, PAL discs doesn't play everywhere - my Samsung DVD player made for Japanese market doesn't play PAL at all (no disc message).
Other players sold in Japan claim they are PAl capable but do not convert for playback on NTSC TV (that are 99% pure NTSC sets sold in Japan - no multi system here).

What we do is giving friends or customers in Europe discs in the format that is official there (I do not need the regional coding). I don't know exact model or do not expect everyone to know if his player is NTSC capable. I've heard most of the players can do NTSC in Europe (most of the TVs are also multisystem and will play/convert NTSC signal even if the DVD output is straight NTSC). But if only one client happens to be exception that is trouble - so just playing safe (although with the cost of may be lower quality and long encoding hours).

Hi,

Sorry this is long.

On Wind Noise ..
For those struggling with a wind-noise problem I want to report what I believe to be a *minor* victory .. but at the same time I want to invite comment from the experts since I am a humble newbie.

I have a clip with variable wind noise. After stumbling around for awhile and reading various posts (explaining that the only thing to be done is to try to cut off the low frequency rumbles with an equalizer), I brought up the sound fx tools for this clip (by right clicking on the audio portion) and chose the Volume and the Paragraphic EQ plug-ins.

* Wind Noise Reduction Technique *
Experimenting with the Paragraphic EQ presets I found that "60 Hz hum notch using four stacked filters" seemed to mitigate moderate to low levels of wind noise. Now then, please note that I have NOT yet rendered this out and listened to it on an actual TV set. If it turns out not to work - I'll repost.

Also please note that I had previously given up and cut out the portions of the interview with the really howling wind noise (gusty day, lousy audio tech (me)).
--------------------------------------------------------

On Volume ..
Which brings us to the question of volume. As far as I can figure there are five controls that can be applied to volume:

1) track volume slider (seen at left of timeline with the other track controls)
2) track compression (second icon from left in track controls, compression plugin)
3) clip volume from an audio fx plugin (right click on audio clip, fx, volume)
4) clip gain (movable thin line in timeline audio clip)
5) blue volume line (runs through all clips on the track and can be adjusted for individual clips using "add point" by right clicking)

* Best Audio Strategy Question *
I'm trying to sort out the best policy for controlling volume for an hour long program consisting of many consecutive man-on-street interviews with lots of wild noise and varying vol levels; this is the voice track.

Would it be best to..?
a) Set the track volume to a fairly high level, say 12db
b) Leave the blue volume control line set at zero
c) Adjust low vol problem clips up as needed with the volume plug-in
d) Adjust gain down on loud clips

* Broadcast Limits Question *
Further, to make this acceptable for broadcast do I need to set a "hard limit 6db" or "soft-limit" in the compressor? I've seen this refered to in other posts but have no real understanding. Is there a BASIC tutorial out there somewhere on audio levels that you would recommend?


regards to all - L

I was wondering if there is anyway to get a snapshot larger than 720x480 in Vegas? That is the size I get when I select Best (Full) and copy or save a snapshot. The reason I'm wondering is because I'd like to capture a couple of frames so have some things printed and would need larger images. I didn't know if that would be possible or not.

Thanks! :)

You don't say what your source media is. If it's NTSC DV, it's 720 by 480. You can't get better resoultion than what you are starting with. (silk purse from sow's ear and all that).

Gary

When set to Best (Full) (or any of the "full") you will get the largest size image you can get. Technically, with a 720x480 image in NTSC, the snapshot will actually be 655x480 to account for square vs non-square pixels.

Almost. hehe. its not the loop region that disappears. When you use the Selectively Prerender Video option in the Tools menu, It makes blue bars above the loop region. Those shouldn't disappear unless I make changes to the clip that is directly under them. That is the problem. If I make a change after a prerender, all the blue bars dissappear. Not just the one above the clip that I changed. It only started doing this rececntly thats why im not sure whats going on.

Well that makes sense.. thank you :)

I know. . .the thread title sounds like the newest Harry Potter.



Two things: I worry that because of the scope of a project, i.e. many layers of audio and video, things grouped in odd ways, etc., that a ripple edit in the middle of a scene will cause chaos somewhere. I was wondering if there was some way to just keep everything together the way it was, but expand/cut down what I need to, without disruption to everything around it.

The other thing:

I hear there's a magic secret plugin for Vegas that allows a keyboard shortcut where one can select, on the timeline, everything from the cursor onward. That would be great if someone could tell me where to find it. I thought maybe it was native to Vegas already, but I can't find a mention in the manual or help files, so I guess not.

Using Version 6.0c, by the way.

Hello everybody!
My mini DV Cam is PAL interlaced. Ok, no problems with capture, editing, etc. But after rendering out in any video format /.avi,.mpg,.wmv/ as progressive video file, the rendered video looks so much worse than original interlaced footage - strobed, strobed, strobed even in little slow camera moving. The result is exactly the same even if I render source interlaced footage out in dv avi pal PROGRESSIVE! Anytime I render out in interlaced format, the rendered video looks ok. So, is there a method or setting which can make an excellent result from interlaced footage to progressive??? The bad result is both on the monitor and TV.

My settings are:
Template: PAL DV (720x576; 25,000 fps).
Field Order: Lower field first. If I set None/progressive scan/ - bad results!
Motion Blut Type: Gaussian Frame Rate: 25,000 (PAL).
Deinterlaced Method: Interpolate fields. If I set Blend fields or None - bad results!
Smart resample is ON. Reduce interlace flicker - better if is OFF.

Would somebody describes step-by-step all the thing I have to do in Vegas, so that to get a nice PROGRESSIVE video at last? I tried many tutorials and examples, but everytime one and the same. Thanks in advance!!!

i would look at procoder before cleaner, definitely...

Thanks, cleaner is out, procoder seems to need FlashMX to encode Flash Video, and not sure if MX exports Flash8 out of the box. The on2 flash video exporter is som kind of MPEG-4/H.264(?) (can anyone please come up with a name..) derivate with crazy quality, have a lok at this 350k stream

www.modernafilmer.se/akamai/mf_flash8.html

and...video for Flash 8 supports alpha channel =8-)

/magnus

Josh, for ripple editing, I leave it turned OFF and only use "post ripple editing" via the keyboard. Then I can determine when and if rippling occurs.

As for selecting everything after the cursor, I personally use the Select Events tool in Excalibur which will do that and any other selection process you might want (i.e. all before cursor, all in the selection area, etc...)

Ultimate S also has the ability to select events based on various parameters. You can also use the "Selection Edit Tool" you can find on the toolbar.

Okay. Darn, neither Excaliber nor ultimate S are free, are they?

No they are not. But they WILL run for 15 days for free so you can try them out.

I have hit a small snag in learning Vegas 6: In Preferences/Keyboard/Tracklist, after assigning the "Cursor to.Right by Frame" to the Right Arrow and doing the left by frame to the Left arrow key, after applying it, it doesn't work.

It's my understanding that no matter what the zoom is set to, it will move in one frame increments on the timeline by hitting the appropriate arrow key. Well, mine is Still contingent on what zoom level I have my timeline set to---as if I didn't even apply the new settings, which I did. The Tracklist menu confirms that I made the new setting. Hmmmmm.

What am I doing wrong?

I put it in the TrackView category and it seems to work as you are wanting.

Thank you; that did the trick. The Vegas tutorial I'm using wanted me to use TrackList.

Hi V-heads;
Trying to install Vegas 6 from cd but my laptop doesn't recognize/find the installer.Never had a problem with auto-install before..I'm running Windows XP Home w/ SP2
& Firefox.Could my lack of Explorer be the prob? I tried a search here but no directly relevant threads turned up.
Thanks
Richard

plus flash8 probably has the capability to have a clickable layer running on top of the video, which you can't do with wmv... unless you wrap the wmv inside of flash7, which i have not been able to figure out how to do :-/

the downside to flash8 is that nobody has the player or codec installed yet, but i think that it's probably a fairly painless download... is your content compelling enuf to keep the audience thru a flash8 install?

i don't know that the on2 flash 8 codec quality is any better than wmv or h.264, but you can be sure that the windows media server is better than anything else out there... it would be interesting to see how akamai is handling wmv vs. flash8 at the server level, and how that would impact what you are doing with your online video.

Exporting to PSP (playstation portable) with vegas 6. How do I change the file path? For some reason I am uploading it to the PSP but not able to view them or find them on file on the PSP. What may I be doing wrong. Some of you may find uploading to PSP is childs play? Well I'm a kid at heart!

Thanks

Hi,
I made a nice veggie where the video fills the screen, zooms out to a picture frame, moves right to left (with a shaddow effect). At the same time the next clip moves in from right to left, fills the screen etc.
I made it so that in the future I could just right drop a clip, as a take,and and its done.
I figured that I could then copy from one instance of vegas and paste into another instance of vegas on a separate track with all the track motion key frames, but could not find a way.
Is it possible to do this? I know I could render and then open the rendered file in onother instance of Vegas, (where my main edition would be) but I would prefer to have every thing in one piece.
Thanks in advance,
Mike

Problem fixed. Had to update the software on the PSP.

How about using it as a nested VEG file?

As another alternative, you could always drop in the new clip, render it out, and then drop the render into the final project.

Ok,I will try to explain once again: what is the best way to get PAL DV AVI progressive from PAL DV AVI interlaced source footage via Vegas??? Please for suggestions and examples!

To get 25p from 50i source:
1. edit your media on the timeline to suit.
2. File>Render as
3. Choose the PAL DV template.
4. Choose Custom in the template choices.
5. In the template, choose Fields>None
6. Render.

Understand that you won't be able to print this back to tape, ever. The camera cannot accept a 25p stream, no DV camera to my knowledge can. But for archiving or playing back from a computer, it's fine.
You can also render to 25p MPEG.

HTH

To get 25p from 50i source:
1. edit your media on the timeline to suit.
2. File>Render as
3. Choose the PAL DV template.
4. Choose Custom in the template choices.
5. In the template, choose Fields>None
6. Render.

Understand that you won't be able to print this back to tape, ever. The camera cannot accept a 25p stream, no DV camera to my knowledge can. But for archiving or playing back from a computer, it's fine.
You can also render to 25p MPEG.

HTH

I know that, Douglas, thank you anyway!
The problem is that if I render out in interlaced SVCD or DVD, then it is OK on the TV. But after rendering out to progressive the result on the TV is full of flickering and strobes especially when there is even little camera moving. Sometimes I want to render out in PAL VCD, but it is always progressive, you know that. And the strobing exists on the TV.
So, is there a solution in Vegas???

How come sometimes when I bring in a picture (JPG) into Vegas, it looks very jaggy and generally just looks like crap, however the picture is very high qaulity and looks fine when I view it in Photoshop.

Do you guys know what I am talking about?

I know that, Douglas, thank you anyway!
The problem is that if I render out in interlaced SVCD or DVD, then it is OK on the TV. But after rendering out to progressive the result on the TV is full of flickering and strobes especially when there is even little camera moving. Sometimes I want to render out in PAL VCD, but it is always progressive, you know that. And the strobing exists on the TV.
So, is there a solution in Vegas???

VCD's aren't meant for TV playback. If you do so, all progressive images are converted by default, to interlaced, unless you've got a progressive DVD/VCD player and a progressive television. All non LCD, Plasma, and rear projection systems are interlaced. So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you want/need a progressive source, but want to display on an interlaced display, without interlacing/jitter/artifacting.
It's not going to happen, because it can't.

It could be that your image is such high resolution that the down-scale to DV makes it look bad. Or, maybe you're viewing at Preview/Full or Auto? Set this to Best/Full to see it in it's best presentation. If it's still bad, try a few things;
1. Right click/Switches/Reduce interlace flicker.
2. Add .001 Gaussian Blur
3. Reduce the size/resolution of the image in Photoshop or other graphic editor.

Remember, DV is only 720 x 480, so if you're dropping in an 8 megapixel image, it's likely scaling so much that it looks artifacted.

I was about to purchase Vegas Platinum but the requirement on the box said service pack 2 required for HDV. Why?

What HDV functionality exactly will not work with sp1?

Only camera detection. It will run fine under SP1. I'm running it now. You *may* need to manually install the HDV camera drivers though.
You'll love Platinum, I've cut quite a few things with it.

Cool!

Makes sense, resized the images in photoshop and it made a HUGE improvement.

Thanks.

When I go to render to the DVDA templates for mpeg2, and then click "custom" it won't open the custom window. It opens the custom template window in other formats.

I think this is because I recently re-installed on a formatted drive and I am missing some mpg codecs. I know that I used to be able to drag and drop in mpegs and now I can't.

I forgot what I'm missing! Please help.

DJ

MPEG Custom button does not work (http://www.jetdv.com/vegas/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6)

Any chance of Sony offering a duel layer plugin for DVDA2, or can you just upgrade to DVDA3 if you don’t want or need Vegas6?

Just thinking out loud

Vince

BTW what is the cost for The Vegas5 w/DVD to Vegas6 w/DVD upgrade?

No and No. Since DVDA2 has been replaced by DVDA3 there is no reason to offer any type of new plugin and DVDA is strictly available only with Vegas.

Don

Thanks Douglas, exactly the answer I was hoping for.

Your answer to a similar question for someone else is what got CapDVHS working for me with the Z1U and SP1.

As Don said, dual layer requires DVDA 3 and you can only get that if you update to Vegas6+DVD. The update is $250:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/shopping/item.asp?PID=335&cid=111&disp=1

However, it may also be possible to prepare the DVD in DVDA2 and then use something like Nero to actually burn the disc onto dual layer media.

VCD's aren't meant for TV playback. If you do so, all progressive images are converted by default, to interlaced, unless you've got a progressive DVD/VCD player and a progressive television. All non LCD, Plasma, and rear projection systems are interlaced. So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you want/need a progressive source, but want to display on an interlaced display, without interlacing/jitter/artifacting.
It's not going to happen, because it can't.
Thank you once again for the information,Douglas!
Now I think about something else in that matter: yes, the TV set I use is interlaced, I know that. But what about when you switch an interlaced tv set on and watch a film on some tv channel? I mean that the film is progressive in any case somewhere in the tv company which you receive the film from via cable, antenna, etc. So, the progressive looks OK on the interlaced TV in your home. Or the jitter is almost not obvious! That is my confusion...

First and foremost, VCD's aren't used for broadcast.
Second, even though the source may have been progressive, it's being interlaced at the broadcaster's facility and aired to you from there, or your television is correctly interlacing progressive footage. (Most likely it's the former, not the latter)

In your case, you're using footage that was captured with interlacing, deinterlaced in (I assume) Vegas, and then put on a low-quality format, which is then being upsampled to a larger scale. This would make any interlacing very obvious.

What happens if you shoot something with your palmcorder, edit it as DV, convert to progressive scan in Vegas, and render to a progressive DVD, and watch it on an interlaced set? It should look quite good, assuming you're using the Vegas templates and not using Pan/crop on the video.

This may be a tough question but how would one do that ... after I prepare for burning then what would I do to get Nero to do the burn?

Vince

DVDA will create the Video_TS and Audio_TS folders. Then you tell Nero to burn a DVD and point it to those folders as the source for the information. I'm not sure how you pick the break-point, though.

Greetings,

Has anyone been using the Tascam US-428 as an external MIDI control interface with Vegas 6.0? I am curious how its controls are able to be mapped to Vegas, and how real-time the control is versus the Mackie control surface. I want to use this unit not only for cutting video video, but also for its ability to use a tactile interface for mixing multiple tracks of audio.


Your input is appreciated!

Thanks Edward

Vince

I may just go to Vegas 6 DVDA3...the audio scrub sounds cool...and I do need duel Layer.. and maybe some day HDV

Thanks

Hey Guys and Gals,
I do alot of shooting with a JVC HD10u. It is not my dream camera by no means, but it shoots nice images. I capture the footage into my PC with Connect HD. Then that program automatically converts that footage to manageable AVI's to edit in vegas 6. I use this only because I have found that Vegas 6's capture ingredient does not suite my PC or it is just not ready. I have a P4 3.2 and 1 gig of ram. I use two drives yada yada for capturing and editing. After I load the files into Vegas 6 should I use the hdv 1280 X 720 in 30p if I am just going to burn this to dvd? Doesn't dvd compress everything to MPeg2 anyway? If was going to maintain the file and send it to a broadcast station, what tape would I have to roll that out to?

ok,
so I have a second camera shot from a panasonic GS-120 that has a bright sky in the background. The wedding party is almost completely in sillouette. Is there any filter or effect I can apply to this to clarify the wedding party. I have to use this feed for the entrance and exit of the party, so I would love to have it "visible" youknow? Thanks in advance.

Bill

Bill - it sounds like the shot is already done, and the image is severely underexposed. If so, using curves to try to open up the shadows may help, but I suspect there is not much detail in those shadows and a lot of noise.

I'd try using curves first, maybe with some noise reduction with the shadow noise you're likely to see, but you might be better off accepting it as is and seeing if you can use it in some artsy way, as if you did it on purpose.

Others may be able to offer more help. I come from a still photography background, and maybe there are some video tricks I'm not aware of.

Perhaps if you could post a snapshot for people to play with...