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Vicent Frases July 26th, 2014, 01:30 AM Ok, I did not realize that issue.
The handheld microphone is an interview that has sennheiser feed.
And naturally sennheiser wireless battery operated.
But there is a question to find out,
Why the computer is listening well and not the mobile phone?
thank you very much
Anthony Lelli July 26th, 2014, 09:48 AM Ok, I did not realize that issue.
The handheld microphone is an interview that has sennheiser feed.
And naturally sennheiser wireless battery operated.
But there is a question to find out,
Why the computer is listening well and not the mobile phone?
thank you very much
because the impedance is low and the signal as well , so if you like the microphone then you can get a cable to connect to the AX100 with impedance matching , like this one
Sescom SES-TR-153 XLR to Right Angled Mini Microphone SES-TR-153
there are some XLR microphones (that I know of) that don't require phantom power and may work without a cable with impedance matching (just a straight XLR to TSR patch). I remember an elecrtovoice 50 working on a sony FX1 without a special cable for example. But it all depends on the signal and the boost from the internal port of the camera. It is indeed a matter of impedance. Usually mics with 3.5mm connectors give a pretty high signal, so the port on the camera is set to low to don't amplify noise and statics.
Vicent Frases July 27th, 2014, 01:00 AM Thank you very much for the explanation.
The subject of resolved audio.
By the way, I am very happy with the camera, another issue that concerns me, but I think that it is impossible for the few tests I've done, it is slowing down the image to 50% or 75% in format 4 K 25p, in post-production.
So and will be so in this House, this is not?
Noa Put July 27th, 2014, 01:24 AM You can't slow down 25p well, 25 frames is about the minimum framerate for smooth motion, if you want to slow down 50% you have to shoot at 50p. Because in 4K it's limited to 25p you can choose 1080p 50p for that purpose.
Vicent Frases July 29th, 2014, 03:56 AM Thank you very much for the replies.
The handheld microphone youtube video is a Sennheiser E 855 without feeding.
And we are the ones that we use:
- Sennheiser ew 100 G3 wireless
- And a Rode NTG-2, which is powered by a battery.
As for the 4k 25p a shame, for now recorded XAVC-S HD: 1920x1080/60P
Jeff Harper July 29th, 2014, 08:04 AM Just want to mention I'm very happy with my AX100s. Dynamic range is wonderful for a camcorder this size. Just shot an outdoor wedding and the footage is really, really nice.
I'm getting hang of adjusting aperture, etc., on the fly, but the wheel is really a pain. Can't find it by feel sometimes and the manual focus button is worthless, can't find it by feel at all. Will probably dedicate a custom button to MF/AF.
Overall these are great cams and I LOVE shooting in 4K. Editing is a bit of a nightmare, two lines of 4K in the same project really bog down my machine. Will probably have to use proxies.
Duane Adam July 29th, 2014, 08:48 AM FWIW I just finished a project with AX100 4K footage in Vegas V13 with no crashes. Upgrading memory from 8GB to 16GB made all the difference. The previews weren't noticeably better but stability was vastly improved even with proxies turned off.
Anthony Lelli July 29th, 2014, 12:11 PM FWIW I just finished a project with AX100 4K footage in Vegas V13 with no crashes. Upgrading memory from 8GB to 16GB made all the difference. The previews weren't noticeably better but stability was vastly improved even with proxies turned off.
Interesting the memory thing for vegas13. I'll do it right away. Thanks.
a note about the AX100 and ND filters: they engage in a brutal manner, so careful when shooting live or for important takes. When you need to engage the ND filters just give 1 second to settle or shoot something not important.
Again the RS of the AX100 in 4K is cute. Really cute. I must learn how to shoot with that cuteness.
But all things considered I'm getting the best footage ever and with any camera that I had before. This AX100 is nothing less than spectacular!
Noa Put July 29th, 2014, 12:56 PM Editing is a bit of a nightmare, two lines of 4K in the same project really bog down my machine. Will probably have to use proxies.
I only use one 4k camera with other 1080p camera's in a multicam so far and then it runs just fine in Edius but as soon as I add a second 4K camera the music stops playing :)
I don't plan to use two 4k camera's in a multi-cam anyway so until my pc is ready for a upgrade, probably end next year, it should be up to speed should I need to use more then one 4K cam in a multicam setup and like you said, I'd convert to canopus own hq avi if there is a need for it.
Peter Siamidis July 29th, 2014, 06:14 PM Has anyone tried using Film Convert with AX100 footage? The AX100 isn't one of the supported camera's so I've been trying the FS700 setting, the color curve is wrong so I disable that but otherwise it seems to work ok but I was wondering if one of the other camera settings works better. For example someone had noticed that an Arri camera setting worked well for the GH4.
Mattias Burling July 30th, 2014, 11:50 AM Ive used the Canon 5d preset and the bmcc if i turn its color way down to 10% or something.
And a good start imo is also turning down the saturation by 15-20%.
Peter Siamidis July 30th, 2014, 01:41 PM Cool I'll try that. Have you noticed that the AX100's footage is a touch green? I didn't notice it before, but now that I'm toying around with Film Convert I actually can see a slight green cast. I am using led light panels so it could be from that although they are supposed to be 91+ cri with no green tint.
Mark Watson August 3rd, 2014, 03:20 PM Some video I shot at 1280x720 120fps.
FDR-AX100 SLOW MO VIDEO - LP on Vimeo
Mark
Joey Atilano August 4th, 2014, 07:39 AM Nice Mark. I shoot a lot in 720 120p for the slowmo factor with my AX100. I hope soon most cams will have 1080 120p soon.
Travis Heberling August 8th, 2014, 08:26 AM Hello everyone!
I was using the Sony FDR AX100 to film a wedding the other day as the B camera. One of my files won't seem to open. It shows up in my finder shows the size of the file and appears to be a normal video file. Only difference is it doesn't seem to have the meta data file and won't show a thumbnail. When I try to open the file nothing plays and if I import into Premiere it causes the program to crash....
I have opened large files off this camera before with no issues so whats up with this one did it get corrupt somehow?
I also contacted sony about this issue and I got no responds =/
Thanks!
David Dixon August 8th, 2014, 08:38 AM Does the AX100 still zoom and autofocus when shooting 120fps? And is the 120fps only at 720p?
Jeff Harper August 8th, 2014, 09:34 AM Will it play in camera?
Travis Heberling August 8th, 2014, 11:43 AM I no longer have the file on the sd card...I tried to put it back on the sd card and play it and it was no go.
Jeff Harper August 8th, 2014, 11:49 AM In the future, consider making sure your project is working for you before you delete the original on the card.
After a wedding I download files and pull everything into Vegas, sync it up completely, and make sure it all looks good before I reformat card. I then copy the entire project and video files onto a backup hard drive for editing at a later time.
Good luck, someone here will likely have a suggestion for you to try.
Dave Blackhurst August 8th, 2014, 03:06 PM Going to take a flyer here and ask if the file that won't play was part of a larger file (IOW was this a longer clip that was divided in camera into two clips?). If that's the case, maybe if you stitch the two files together properly it will play...
That's my guess at least.
And have you tried viewing the file with Sony's Play Memories Home program?
Ron Evans August 8th, 2014, 04:52 PM Hello everyone!
I was using the Sony FDR AX100 to film a wedding the other day as the B camera. One of my files won't seem to open. It shows up in my finder shows the size of the file and appears to be a normal video file. Only difference is it doesn't seem to have the meta data file and won't show a thumbnail. When I try to open the file nothing plays and if I import into Premiere it causes the program to crash....
I have opened large files off this camera before with no issues so whats up with this one did it get corrupt somehow?
I also contacted sony about this issue and I got no responds =/
Thanks!
Did you use Sony Play Memories Home to transfer the file to the PC ? Just reading off the card is not always the best. For all my Sony cameras I use the supplied transfer software.
Ron Evans
Monday Isa August 8th, 2014, 04:56 PM Hello everyone!
I was using the Sony FDR AX100 to film a wedding the other day as the B camera. One of my files won't seem to open. It shows up in my finder shows the size of the file and appears to be a normal video file. Only difference is it doesn't seem to have the meta data file and won't show a thumbnail. When I try to open the file nothing plays and if I import into Premiere it causes the program to crash....
I have opened large files off this camera before with no issues so whats up with this one did it get corrupt somehow?
I also contacted sony about this issue and I got no responds =/
Thanks!
Did the camera battery die before you could stop recording? If so then yes the file can't be open. The software to close out the file on the camera does not work in 4K mode. Not sure if it's XAVC-S or just the 4K mode. This is what I did as it has happened to me twice. I went to this site and paid for their service. I had a 11min clip and it was worth it for that particular job.
Video Repair Tool (http://mp4repair.org/pwt6/preview.html)
Mark Watson August 8th, 2014, 11:29 PM Does the AX100 still zoom and autofocus when shooting 120fps? And is the 120fps only at 720p?
Yes, you can zoom and autofocus works normally. Resolution is fixed at 1280x720. Files are saved as 120fps progressive MP4 with a 50Mbps bit rate. They play back at normal speed, so in Vegas I have to stretch them out x4 to get slow mo. Peaking works. Touch screen focus does not work.
Mark
David Dixon August 9th, 2014, 06:45 AM Mark - thanks for the info.
The 4K bridge camera FZ1000 from Panasonic had drawn my attention for its slow motion capabilities, but it has several drawbacks. Its initially advertised 720p240fps mode has evidently been dropped from production models. It does offer 1080p120fps, but exposure, focus, zoom, white balance, etc. are all locked down at the start of recording. No thanks.
Mark Watson August 9th, 2014, 06:59 AM I have the FZ200 and it's the same way., when shooting a sky to shade scene, I have to compromise on the exposure level, lock it in with a half-press on the record button. It has a nice image and would still be useful if you record scenes with static light levels. Need to put it up for sale. It's a PAL model.
If you can afford to wait a bit, the FDR-AX100 might get a price drop in the U.S. like it has in Japan. Possibly when Sony releases their pro version of it.
Mark
David Dixon August 9th, 2014, 07:20 AM Yes, I'm in no rush and my current plan is to wait and see what new models and price changes happen.
Travis Heberling August 9th, 2014, 10:10 PM Did the camera battery die before you could stop recording? If so then yes the file can't be open. The software to close out the file on the camera does not work in 4K mode. Not sure if it's XAVC-S or just the 4K mode. This is what I did as it has happened to me twice. I went to this site and paid for their service. I had a 11min clip and it was worth it for that particular job.
Video Repair Tool (http://mp4repair.org/pwt6/preview.html)
The battery did not die. I just stopped recording when it was done .
Mark Fry August 12th, 2014, 03:27 PM I really think it's time discussion of this little camera moved out of a single thread in the News section and into a normal section of the Sony Cameras forum, where each topic can have its own thread. Maybe it can share space with the new X70? Mods? What can you do? Where do you want to put it? The "Sony XAVC and XDCAM Camera Systems" (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xavc-xdcam-camera-systems/) section looks like a good place to me.
Lou Bruno August 13th, 2014, 07:23 AM Agree with Mark.
Charles W. Hull August 13th, 2014, 06:10 PM I really think it's time discussion of this little camera moved out of a single thread in the News section and into a normal section of the Sony Cameras forum, where each topic can have its own thread. Maybe it can share space with the new X70? Mods? What can you do? Where do you want to put it? The "Sony XAVC and XDCAM Camera Systems" (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xavc-xdcam-camera-systems/) section looks like a good place to me.
I really agree with this. The so far 112 pages in this thread seem to be an indication of the very high interest in this camera. Yes, it could be in a new class including the PXW-X70, and any new cameras Sony brings to this family. The FDR-AX100 is quickly becoming my go-to video camera, and I'd like to see a section where users of the camera could trade information, and anyone interested in the camera could learn more.
Another useful section would be 'all about 4K'. How do you shoot, edit, display, store, distribute and market, and everything else 4K. My venture into 4K at the 'prosumer and low end professional level' has been pretty much in a vacuum; the technology is just emerging and no one knows the whole story of what works and doesn't work. 4K is amazing and once into it you don't go back; it seems to deserve a section in the forum.
Vaughan Wood August 13th, 2014, 06:14 PM Sadly, this thread has got SO big most knowledgeable people seemed to have left it for other forums.
About thirty pages ago Chris finally agreed to shift it, but its so long I couldn't find his post.
Sad really!
Vaughan
Noa Put August 14th, 2014, 01:13 AM I have tried using the report button to ask for a separate category and eventhough I"m sure it will come I also agree that it's long overdue. Lot's of valuable information get's lost now in this already huge thread.
Dave Blackhurst August 14th, 2014, 10:44 PM I think the challenge is there is SO MUCH that sorting it out may have caused Chris to have been sucked into a black hole...
I too suggested that DVi should have a "4K" area, which would be AX100, GH4, and FZ1000 at present, plus an area for platforms, workflow, delivery... sort of a "life on the bleeding edge" area!
Logically, an area for the AX100 and RX series still cams makes some sense (grouping by sensor), there are scattered posts for these...
Again, just SO much volume that sorting is probably a monumental task! Then how to best "re-forum" all the content!?
Mark Fry August 15th, 2014, 05:08 AM I think the challenge is there is SO MUCH that sorting it out may have caused Chris to have been sucked into a black hole...
I too suggested that DVi should have a "4K" area, which would be AX100, GH4, and FZ1000 at present, plus an area for platforms, workflow, delivery... sort of a "life on the bleeding edge" area!
Logically, an area for the AX100 and RX series still cams makes some sense (grouping by sensor), there are scattered posts for these...
Again, just SO much volume that sorting is probably a monumental task! Then how to best "re-forum" all the content!?
I wouldn't worry too much about sorting out this existing monster-thread. Just create the new area, post a link from this thread, then lock this one and let the discussion continue elsewhere.
Perhaps a few of us should each start a new thread in the new area about the topics that most concern us, quoting the most recent couple of relevant posts from here.
If someone, later, has the patience to tease out the different discussions from here into separate threads, then so much the better, but that it's not a prerequisite.
Dan Carter August 15th, 2014, 10:26 AM Probably no surprise to those who own one.
EUROPEAN CAMCORDER 2014-2015 - Sony FDR-AX100 on Vimeo
Travis Heberling August 15th, 2014, 11:25 AM Hello,
Does anyone know if there is a way to get the ax100 to auto separate large files into multiple ones. Some kind of record limit so the files are not over 4 GB's each.
Thanks!
Peter Siamidis August 16th, 2014, 12:10 AM Anyone here know of a bracket that can be use to let me use the AX100 on a tripod along with the XLR-K1M at the same time? Not sure where to look for such a gizmo, basically it would need to be a bracket that could mount to the tripod at the same time as the AX100 and add a cold shoe mount off to the side. That way I could plug the hot shoe connector right into the camera, and mount the XLR-K1M on the cold shoe mount to the side. I've seen handheld ones and I already have one like that, but I was wondering if there was a solution for full tripod use of both camera and audio adapter.
Mark Rosenzweig August 16th, 2014, 09:43 AM Anyone here know of a bracket that can be use to let me use the AX100 on a tripod along with the XLR-K1M at the same time? Not sure where to look for such a gizmo, basically it would need to be a bracket that could mount to the tripod at the same time as the AX100 and add a cold shoe mount off to the side. That way I could plug the hot shoe connector right into the camera, and mount the XLR-K1M on the cold shoe mount to the side. I've seen handheld ones and I already have one like that, but I was wondering if there was a solution for full tripod use of both camera and audio adapter.
There a lots of these brackets, like
Bower VA320 Flash Bracket for Flash Or Video Light 2 Shoes | Focus Camera (http://www.focuscamera.com/bower-va320-flash-bracket-for-flash-or-video-light-2-shoes.html?gclid=CJqN9-OPmMACFShp7AodjnEABg)
Is this what you mean?
Ken Ross August 16th, 2014, 11:08 AM Probably no surprise to those who own one.
Thanks Dan and yes, no surprise. :)
Jack Zhang August 16th, 2014, 11:27 AM Hello,
Does anyone know if there is a way to get the ax100 to auto separate large files into multiple ones. Some kind of record limit so the files are not over 4 GB's each.
Thanks!
The only way to do that is to use a SDHC card, but you're limited to 32GB and you cannot record 4K in this mode. SDXC uses a different file system so there theoretically don't need to have file size limits. If you're copying to a FAT32 drive, you may want to format it to exFAT, which is the same file system as SDXC. Mac OS and Windows can read and write to exFAT. Linux is the only one that can't read exFAT out of the box.
Peter Siamidis August 16th, 2014, 11:51 AM There a lots of these brackets, like
Bower VA320 Flash Bracket for Flash Or Video Light 2 Shoes | Focus Camera (http://www.focuscamera.com/bower-va320-flash-bracket-for-flash-or-video-light-2-shoes.html?gclid=CJqN9-OPmMACFShp7AodjnEABg)
Is this what you mean?
Not sure that would work, like how does that connect to a tripod? That one looks more like it's intended to be gripped in hand. What I want to do is mount the AX100 on a tripod along with the XLR-K1M so I guess I need some kind of bracket that can connect to the tripod, allow the AX100 to connect to it and offer a cold shoe off to the side to connect the XLR-K1M (it's hot shoe connects to the AX100, and its cold shoe connects to that bracket). Not sure if I'm explaining it right...but I need something that works for tripod use for longer steady shots. For handheld type stuff I use one of these:
Amazon.com : Opteka X-GRIP Professional Camera / Camcorder Action Stabilizing Handle- Black : Professional Video Stabilizers : Camera & Photo (http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Professional-Camcorder-Stabilizing-Handle-/dp/B003PBB4ME)
So the AX100 connects to the bottom plate, the XLR-K1M connect to the cold shoe on the top, and it's hot shoe connector then gets hooked to the AX100 and it all works cool for handheld. Now I need a solution for tripod use but haven't quite found a simple bracket that does it, most people seem to use more complicated rigs to do that sort of thing but I was hoping to avoid a rig setup since all I really need is just one extra cold shoe.
David Dixon August 16th, 2014, 08:45 PM I have this bracket that includes a female tripod socket thread on the bottom screw which allows it to fit between a tripod and camera.
Vello CB-510 Dual Shoe Bracket with Silicon Rubber Grip CB-510
Mark Rosenzweig August 16th, 2014, 09:10 PM Not sure that would work, like how does that connect to a tripod? That one looks more like it's intended to be gripped in hand. What I want to do is mount the AX100 on a tripod along with the XLR-K1M so I guess I need some kind of bracket that can connect to the tripod, allow the AX100 to connect to it and offer a cold shoe off to the side to connect the XLR-K1M (it's hot shoe connects to the AX100, and its cold shoe connects to that bracket). Not sure if I'm explaining it right...but I need something that works for tripod use for longer steady shots. For handheld type stuff I use one of these:
Amazon.com : Opteka X-GRIP Professional Camera / Camcorder Action Stabilizing Handle- Black : Professional Video Stabilizers : Camera & Photo (http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Professional-Camcorder-Stabilizing-Handle-/dp/B003PBB4ME)
So the AX100 connects to the bottom plate, the XLR-K1M connect to the cold shoe on the top, and it's hot shoe connector then gets hooked to the AX100 and it all works cool for handheld. Now I need a solution for tripod use but haven't quite found a simple bracket that does it, most people seem to use more complicated rigs to do that sort of thing but I was hoping to avoid a rig setup since all I really need is just one extra cold shoe.
I know what you want - that device I linked to has a tripod female connector on the bottom (see it - it is round) to attach your tripod. It also has a male screw to attach your camcorder, and gives you two extra cold shoes. It seems to be exactly what you need. You attach the device to your tripod, you attach your camcorder to the device. It does exactly the same thing the Opteka does, exactly.
David Dixon August 16th, 2014, 09:16 PM The only thing - if using one of these brackets on a camera with a fold out lcd screen, make sure the one you get has enough clearance. I'm actually looking for one that gets the cold shoe further to the left of the camera. I want to mount an led light over there and still have room to use the lcd.
Peter Siamidis August 16th, 2014, 10:05 PM Oh ok cool, that wasn't immediately obvious to me from the pic for some reason. Thanks guys I'll order it and give it a shot.
Mark Watson August 17th, 2014, 01:14 AM Low light testing against XF305, 7D, XL-H1A.
Sony FDR-AX100 LOW LIGHT TEST on Vimeo
Mark
Noa Put August 17th, 2014, 01:41 AM Why did you not shoot wide open with the ax100? The test is at f3.4 while wide open the lens is at f2.8? Also what's the point of comparing a lens at f1.4 to a lens at f3.4? You should compare both at f2.8
Mark Watson August 17th, 2014, 06:38 AM Why did you not shoot wide open with the ax100? The test is at f3.4 while wide open the lens is at f2.8? Also what's the point of comparing a lens at f1.4 to a lens at f3.4? You should compare both at f2.8
Maybe I should just move the AX100 much closer than all the other cams so as to help it get to f2.8. The test was to shoot from the same position and with the same framing. I put the f1.4 50mm lens on the 7D because I can. Should I have "crippled" it with a slow kit lens? If I had to shoot that scene with my 7D, that's the lens I'd use. That's sort of the point, cameras with interchangeable lenses have an advantage. I'm not testing sensors or lenses, I'm testing cameras, as a system, in a given situation.
Mark
Noa Put August 17th, 2014, 07:12 AM Yeah but the test is pointless the way you did it, if you would have used f 3.4 on the 7d as well and then matched the iso with the ax100 then it would be easier to see how well the camera performs at the same f-stop and comparable iso's.
You also have the iris wide open on the xf305 but you close it down on the ax100 and call it a low light test? Also because you can? :) Sorry but I don't see how this test is going to help anyone wanting to know how the camera performs at it's best in low light.
Ron Evans August 17th, 2014, 08:09 AM The test was to shoot from the same position and with the same framing.
Mark
But you did not do this for the AX100. If you look closely you are zoomed in closer than the others making it ramp more. You need to come back more not get closer so the bottles are the same size. A SLR should always do better because of choice of lens. You could have compared with an A7S and blown them all away!!! A better comparison would be with a Canon XA or XF series or Sony NX30. Similar price handycam. At 4K a comparison with the FDR-AX1 would also be useful. Again a camera that can open up to F1.6 compared to a larger sensor but limited to F2.8 for the AX100.
Ron Evans
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