<<<-- Originally posted by Terry Thompson : I have noticed that if I don't have enough of the clip for my disolve it will do strange things like start the clip over at the end where the disolve is.

Terry -->>>

That's they beauty about Vegas. Instead of needing to keep head/tails, just overlap the clips! However, if you DO add a transition in such a way that the clips extend then you must make sure you have room to extend.

The "start the clip over" is actually optional. You can also have it "freeze the last frame". Just right-click that event, choose Properties, and UNCHECK "Loop".

Once you start the render, try minimizing Vegas.

When the render is started, the "cancel" button is selected by default. If you press "TAB", it will change the focus to the checkbox on that dialog box instead so you would be less likely to accidentally stop the render. My solution is usually to either minimize Vegas or just walk away from that machine.

Hi, thank you for the replies!

A "frame-hold" is just a term used in Premiere to freeze a given frame for a lenght of time.
Instead of exporting a still frame, then re-importing it and dragging it out over the timeline, you can select a frame and tell premiere to freeze it on that frame.
You simply splice, then cut you desired frame, open your menu and select 'frame hold, in or out point', and then you now drag that one frame over the timeline for as long as you want, and it will appear to be "frozen" while playing back in realtime.

I was just trying to figure out if Vegas has the same type of command. I'm trying what you both have mentioned, but am having problems for some reason..
For some reason, after I apply a velocity envelope to my clip, I cannot adjust the speed. There's nothing for me to move around...where is that blue line that the help shows you to be able to move up and down to adjust the speed?

oops...I had the timeline up to high, so I couldn't see it.
So, I found the velocity line to change the speed.
The problem is, how do I stretch one frame over the time line?

hmmm...

I tried the "adding points" to the velocity line.

What I did was this:

1) I found my frame that I wanted to freeze
2) I then cut it and applied a velocity envelop to it
3) I made the velocity at 0% and added two points, beginning and end, both with the "hold" selection

It's not really working for me, for some reason...

All I want to do is to take a clip, divide it in two and separate them with a large gap. Then take the first half, take the *last* frame, cut it, then tell vegas that I want it to remain on the *one* frame while I drag it to fill the gap between the two main clips. Basically, making the video appear the have been frozen on that frame for a duration of time.

What am I doing wrong?
Thank you...

First of all, you don't have to split (like you did in Premiere).

If you WANT to split, simply split on the proper frame, add a velocity envelope to the clip on the right, right-click the default first node, choose "Set To..." and type in 0.

If you DON'T want to split, just add a velocity envelope to the clip, go to where you want the speed to stop, add a new node there set at 100%, move right 1 frame and add a new node there, right-click it, choose "Set To..." and type in 0.

You might want to click on the link under my name and check out the newsletters. I have velocity changes well covered in one of the issues.

Thank you Edward...I've just realized that Vegas approaches this totally different the Premiere...
And I just went to your site. Holy cow! Lots of info... thank you :)

Happy halloween guys!

one thing which hasnt been mentioned is the deinterlacing of the still frame..

vegas has a tendency to be a lil too accurate with the fields, and sometimes has the tendency to "flicker" that still image..
It could just be me, with my settings, but i havent set anything to deinterlace.

what i do, is export the precise frame i need... then reimport it as an image file.
When you export, u just make sure that the frame itself isnt a blended field, else youll get flickering due to the high resolution. even selecting the option to reduce the interlace flickering doesnt do all that much to assist.

other times i use the velocity method, one i hit zero, i then drag the clip fo ras long as i need the still to go for.

Another trick which doing that is to use teh pan/crop tool to add motion to the still... makes for a nice Matrix esque feel.. ehehehe

i bought a new Adaptec 3 port firewire card with NEC chipset and installed it. This is a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with built in firewire port, so theoretically I have 4 ports on two adapters.

Using the PCMCIA Adaptec card, the hard drive installed and read OK. Plugged in the camera, and, after a delay, it came online. Was able to capture from the cam to the firewire hard drive with no dropped frames.

Attempting PTT failed. There were huge numbers of dropped frames and blue frames, the frame on the camera's LCD was jumping all over the place, so I cancelled it.

I tried connecting the camera via the built-in port, but it does not get recognized.

Both devices are using IRQ 11. Maybe that's why they don't operate simultaneously. anyone know how to change the IRQ assigned to a device? Or other ideas?

Help.

Scott

Thanks Edward,

I'm always learning new things in Vegas that make editing less grusome. Sometime even fun.

Terry

The frame on which you freeze definitely makes a difference. There's always the "reduce interlace flicker" option. However, the best bet is to pick a frame that doesn't flicker to begin with.

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Hello all. I am doing an educational video for the communities living around the Oak Ridge Reservation in TN. Remember, this is where they built the atomic bomb. One of the shots I need is an aireal of the entire area and, overlaying arrows indicating wind direction. So the question is, can I create annimated arrows on Vegas 5, or do I need another program? Bob

You can find many arrows in a font called Wingdings 3. Use them with the text genetrator and you can move them with the placement function (keyframes) or pan/crop.

Pan/Crop can also be used to change the direction of the arrows as well as the position.

Just that easy! Thanks!!
Milt

If you are using shadow effect (in text gen) rotating in pan/crop will change the direction of the shadow as well, which can look odd. Shadow in track motion will keep its position in relation to the frame, even when the image is rotated in pan/crop.

I'm still not sure what you are trying to do Ray. What does
"that might come out to 24fps and widescreen" mean??

There is a format "called" miniDVD that allows you to put a DVD
structure on a CD. HOWEVER, this will NOT be playable in 99% of
the players out there and will store a very short clip only.

It is far better to go with a DVD burner which are cheap these days!

WOW, thanks guys. Not only do I have the arrows I need but by doing a series of arrows and using overlaps I get the annimation also. What a great program. Thanks again. Bob

No consumer/prosumer application will do dts. Only the highend
stuff. If you do this for a personal project I would just encode
the WAV file to Dolby Digital AC3 and be done with it.

Hi all,

I am going to be putting together a looping video to play in a high end nightclub/lounge, that has a bunch of Plasma screens.. It will have logos, drink specials, special events, private party announcements.. etc.. And I want to make it on a DVD (I am using DVD Architect 2 of course) but I know i am limited in time on the DVD.. I do not want the employees to have to run in the back to the DVD player every hour or even 2 hours to restart the promo dvd.. Of course I have thought of using a VHS tape (6 hours) but was hoping to use the DVD to keep the video quality high..

Any ideas on how to get a long loop ??

Thanks in advance..
mike m.

This sounds like you're going to run a single play movie with no menu so set your "end action" to 'most recent menu' and it should loop until you stop it.

Hope that's what you're looking for.

Don B

Well guys, DTS encoding isn't that far away. Check the link down below, they offer 2 DTS software encoders. The most expensive one of the two is 499 dollar, which I consider as a prosumer price. Just render 6 WAV tracks from your 5.1 mix...
http://www.minnetonkaaudio.com/products/products.html

I'm not sure how to build a dvd with a DTS audiotrack, can you use DVD-A for that purpose?

Peter

The problem usually seems to be authoring (not encoding). DVDA
does not support dts tracks at this moment.

Thanks for all your help.

Its not too important at the moment just would be cool to have a dts soundtrack on the dvd for my next short film,
guess i'll just have to keep the dts files and wait till i get some software that will allow me to use it, or just stick it on as a dts wav as i tried and hope some dts decoders will decode it.

which is what i hoped would work cause like with some ac3 and dts wav files i downloaded once when i played on the computer they were just the noise, but when put in my dvd player they were decoded properly,

but my dts wav files i make just play the noise on both my computer and dvd player.

Hi all,


Quick question here , is it possible to go beyond the 300% limit for the velocity enveloppe , 300% is wayyyy too slow for what I want.


thx guys

Phil

Setting the end action to itself should be all that is necessary. Note that if you already have it on DVD, most DVD players also have the ability to repeat a track as well.

To make things 100% simple on the end user (i.e. stick it in and walk away), I would do as Don suggested - Single Move project and set the end action to itself.

Hello,

OK, cool.. Did not know you could set the end action to itself.. And I was not even sure you could set an end action in a non-menu based DVD..

Thanks guys..

Mike M.

The velocity envelope will give you 300% and a "CNTRL+Drag of the clip will give you an additional 400% for a total of 1200% (or 12x)

If you need more than 12x, you have a couple of options:

1) Render out at 12x, put the new file on the timline, and then speed that up again (up to 12x). Repeat as needed.

2) Use the velocity tool in Veggie Toolkit. (There's a link to it at the link under my name)

Thanks guys ,

Edward, I actually thought about that but after posting my question HIHIHIHI :)

Greatly appreciated guys

Phil

I have recorded my video in 30p using a DVX100a. I want to perserve 30p from recording to final production as a DVD. Are there any specific things to keep in mind in rendering or burning the DVD using Vegas 5 + DVD software or can I run defaults accross the board?

Thanks,

-Jonathan Gentry

Yes, make sure that everything is set to 29.97 fps PROGRESSIVE,
that INCLUDES your project settings AND your export settings
(which default to interlaced!!). Also make sure your authoring
programs has everything set to progressive.

I wanted to send my project to a dv tape so I can show it on vhs. So, I went into Tools, Print video to dv tape. All went well except, I now have 52 files that say "Vegas prerendered video file. 0001 (through 52). Question, can I delete these files without deleteing up my project? bob

hello all
I can render MPEG 2's no problem but when I try to render MPEG1's, it just freezes a little way through.

I believe this is a common problem with VEGAS 5.

Any ideas? For the meantime I might just have to render them in Vegas 4! Not ideal though is it...

AND, what's news in version 5.2 b(?!)

love the program though. runs a treat on a laptop

thanks..Mark

I assume you mean 5.0b instead of 5.2b? The Sony site has
a readme with all the fixes and changes:

http://dspcdn.sonypictures.com/readmes/vegas50b/vegas_readme.htm

I think I had problems rendering to MPEG1 as well a while back,
but can't remember for sure. Sorry.

Yes you can. But if you PTT again, they will have to be re-created.

Edward, as always...thank you. Bob

Gary, EXCELLENT JOB with the Vegas training DVD's. I'm only into the second DVD of the set and have already learned a great deal.

Very clearly presented in an format that held my interest.

THANKS !!!!!

Are you saying if I imported my project without switching to Progressive, by default I have lost the value of my 30P and converted it to Interlace?

NOT GOOD!

No, only if you exported it with that. No program will/should change
your source files, they are just copied from your camera. Just
make sure all the rest of the settings (project, export) match
the footage to not introduce artifacts that do not belong there.

OK... When you said project settings I assumed that a project became a project when the files were imported. I have already edited a good bit of the project and never bothered to look at what those settings are. If I started editing the project already at default settings am I messed up for Progressive? I understand the export or render part but I'm speaking of what you refer to as the project...

-Jonathan

Go to File - Properties and change it there to change the "Project settings".

Thanks guys. May I ask what that changes if you set the export seperatly. Sorry to drag this out but this isn't computing in my slow brain.

I believe you can change the project settings in Vegas *at any time*

Then when you render Vegas will use the currently selected settings.

Regards
-- Andre

Ok.. that makes sense. So setting the project to Progressive just changes the default render settings. Correct me if wrong.

Here's another related question to the Properties settings for the render job. If I'm exporting to Progressive DVD should I use NTSC Standard or NTSC DV? Standard seems like it should be the right call.

Thanks everyone...

-Jonathan

I have been using Pinnacle and Ulead Video editing programs for a couple of years now. Recently, I made some extra bucks and would like to buy Vegas 5 hoping to improve my video editing. Please note that I am by no means a PRO or do this for a living but rather a hobbyist and retired. I still consider myself green and newby in this field.

Before I jump into this challenging task I'd like to know some answer to the following:

1. Should I expect faster rendering process in Vegas 5?
2. Pinnacle and Ulead has some problems in video/audio syncronization. Has anyone experienced this problem in Vegas 5?
3. Can audio and color be improve in Vegas 5?
4. If you have the time, what other stuff can I expect in Vegas 5. Please don't be too technical. Layman terms please.

Thank you so much.

1. Should I expect faster rendering process in Vegas 5?

Probably not. However, you can probably expect better QUALITY rendering. Vegas' rendering is known for its quality, not speed.

2. Pinnacle and Ulead has some problems in video/audio syncronization. Has anyone experienced this problem in Vegas 5?

Never been a problem for me.

3. Can audio and color be improve in Vegas 5?

Yes. Vegas has the best audio tools of any NLE and the color tools are top notch.

4. If you have the time, what other stuff can I expect in Vegas 5. Please don't be too technical. Layman terms please.

TONS of stuff. My personal favorite is Scripting which is a means to automate tasks and add new features (check the link under my name for more details on everything - especially look through the newsletters).

Your first remark is wrong. The default on export is INTERLACED
and not progressive. Vegas does not use the project settings
for export (at least not that setting). Just to make it a bit more
clear for you:

1. project settings: go to File -> Properties (progressive is in the pulldown called "Field order")

2. export settings: File -> Render As -> choose "Save as type" and "Template" -> Custom -> Video tab (again the "Field order" pulldown)

To answer your last question. The project settings don't have
much to do with export but about what kind of footage is in your
project. If you shoot in DV this should be set to DV (otherwise
your pixel aspect ratio will be WRONG [at least]). So set that to
NTSC DV and then change the field order to progressive.

To Edward's reply I would only add that as a former Pinnacle S8 user, I found the switch to Vegas pretty easy. Vegas is at least two orders of magnitude more capable, so there are many tools available. You can, however, be editing in very short order.

Vegas is extremely stable, and the audio tools are first rate. I'm still using the 1394 card that came with Pinnacle Stuio DV. Works fine with Vegas.

Do not be concerned about the rendering speed. It may be longer than either of the products you have used, but the editing time will be much more efficient. The ability to preview on an external monitor can eliminate several tweak and rerender passes, especially when dealing with still images.