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James Emory
November 19th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Thank you Craig and Bill! Back in the early '90s, I was interning at a local cable station then owned by Scripps Howard, then Comcast who eventually got rid of it 10 years later. When it was new, I approached and convinced them to let me produce a show using their gear and in return for the use of that, I worked for free as a shooter for their news department. I didn't mind that deal because I was very young and was just happy to be doing something that I had always wanted to do. I came out ahead on that deal because I could never put a value on the hands on training (total immersion) that I got from that experience. One other note is that after Comcast took over, for some reason, they started paying local college interns. I don't know if there were complaints from the schools or if they realized they may have been breaking labor laws. It was kind of discouraging to be around people that knew far less than me, people I was training and supervising GETTING PAID while I worked for free! But not really, the hands on experience that I received then has served me well and has been a key reason for getting me where I am today. These posts for nonpaid positions are not all shady but I will only do something once that I haven't done before, if it gets me experience that I think I need and there's probably no other way that I could have gotten it.

Bill Porter
November 20th, 2005, 02:20 PM
You guys are looking at this the wrong way. We should all be thankful that everyone doesn't charge for internships or the privilege of working for someone!

Craig Seeman
November 20th, 2005, 05:06 PM
You guys are looking at this the wrong way. We should all be thankful that everyone doesn't charge for internships or the privilege of working for someone!


But they do!

It used to be you had to pay around $3200 for a PD-150, then it went to $3500 for the DVX-100 to shoot in 24p, now they ask you to have a Z1 for $4600 and when the Panasonic HVX-200 comes out you'll have to pay $6000!

I expect to see interns who must have a Thompson Viper soon!

James Emory
November 20th, 2005, 05:22 PM
You guys are looking at this the wrong way. We should all be thankful that everyone doesn't charge for internships or the privilege of working for someone!Please explain further. I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean by everyone doesn't charge for internships or the privilege of working for someone! Who does everyone refer to?

Bill Porter
November 20th, 2005, 06:43 PM
Craig, excellent point!

Craig Seeman
November 20th, 2005, 08:44 PM
Talk about shady. A wedding ceremony with four people and it'll be 2 hours. Heck even the longer ones don't go much over an hour. Waz up with dat? Then he wants TWO more shoot days at about 5 hours each. Cost 12 hours over 3 days is $250. Of course the pay's so high because you have to have experience and equipment!


Need person to shoot some digital video
I need a cameraman on Nov. 26th for 2 hours to film a barebones wedding in Central Park, only the couple, officiate and me will be present.

I also need a cameramann on Nov. 28th and 29th for a total of 10 hours. I want to shoot footage to put on my website.

I might have other stuff in the future.

You need to have experience and equipment. Pay is $ 250 for the whole thing.

Bill Zens
November 22nd, 2005, 08:26 PM
I need a cameraman on Nov. 26th for 2 hours to film a barebones wedding in Central Park, only the couple, officiate and me will be present.


But the location and time of year are great!!!

James Emory
November 23rd, 2005, 03:41 AM
Surely they don't realize just how specialized that camera is. If I'm going to be operating the new Cannon DVX, I think I should be getting more than $50 / day!

"Looking for DP who can work a Cannon DVX 3CCD who has access to a basic lighting kit. We welcome fresh out of film school graduates. A independent trilogy slated for entry to the atlanta film festival

$50/ day + credits, copy+ food

3 day shoot"

Nick Hiltgen
November 23rd, 2005, 09:01 AM
an independent trilogy? In three days? Hmm that means one movie a day on a camera that doesn't even exist, good thing it's ok if you're fresh out of film school (which I imagine means GSU or SCAD).

James Emory
November 28th, 2005, 09:21 PM
If they have pro editors teaching, then why do they need editors to cut their content?

"Xxxxxxx based production company is looking to hire professional editors to edit a reality show and future projects. If you have proven work and are looking for your next job send us an email stating your interest along with a resume or a link to your webpage.

We are also looking to hire inhouse editors and we do provide on the job training for serious inquiries only. If you have a passion for editing but haven't had the time or opportunity to learn the basics, come join us every Saturday for our inhouse Final Cut workshop.

Bring your home photos and video, leave with your own edited project…

Next class

SATURDAYS
BEGINNER’S CLASS 10:00AM – 12:00 $75.00 (ask about our fee wavier program)
ADVANCED CLASS 1:00 PM – 3:00PM $75.00
TUESDAYS ADDED BY POPULAR DEMAND!
BEGINNER'S CLASS 10:00AM - 12:00 $75.00
BEGINNER'S CLASS 7:00PM - 9:00PM $75.00
IN OUR ONE DAY INTENSIVE TRAINING COURSE, learn Final Cut Pro from our team of Editors with extensive experience in using Final Cut Pro for Film and Video. Our Introductory and Advanced classes teach you the basics you need to complete your own project including:

• How to open, log and capture your images,
• Basic transitions
• Create your own project
• Leave class with your own edited video!

Class size is restricted, SPACE IS LIMITED. CALL TODAY TO REGISTER"

Simon Wyndham
November 30th, 2005, 05:34 AM
Yep, so many low-ballers out there. Recently there was an ad on Shooting People asking for a Digibeta camera owner/operator to work for free with an addition to their reel as reward! I really would love to meet some of the people who put those sorts of ads out face to face so I can put them straight on a few things.

George Ellis
November 30th, 2005, 06:30 AM
Yep, so many low-ballers out there. Recently there was an ad on Shooting People asking for a Digibeta camera owner/operator to work for free with an addition to their reel as reward! I really would love to meet some of the people who put those sorts of ads out face to face so I can put them straight on a few things.
Yeah, because we all know that someone with a Digibeta probably got it as part of a package on eBay or got one for Christmas and does not know how to use it... /sarcasm :D

Craig Seeman
November 30th, 2005, 12:22 PM
This is downright FRIGHTENING! A MAJOR Cable Company paying only $150 a day for DV AND BetaSP to shoot COMMERCIALS. I can't fathom this at all! It's sickening!


GRIPS, CAMERA PEOPLE WANTED

Cable company seeks grips and experienced DV and Beta SP camera people to assist on local commercial shoots on a freelance basis.

Please send resume and reel to:

Creative Services Manager
Comcast Spotlight
400 Broadacres Drive, 2nd Floor
Bloomfield, NJ 07003

Compensation: $150/day

Josh Bass
November 30th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Maybe they left something out. A pa/grip for 150 isn't that unreasonable on those "little" shoots---surely they would not pay the same rate for a PA as a camera guy. That makes no sense.

James Emory
November 30th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Up and coming, seems to be tag words being used more and more lately. He must have bought one of those TV Network kits at Staples. How can an up and coming network already be prominent? I guess only 20 year olds know how to shoot MTV style videos. My guess is that he is assuming that all 20 year olds are naive and will fall for his crap.

"I am a video producer out of San Francisco. I am looking for a young, 20 something to shoot a hip MTV style video about social, political and environmental events. The pay is low to start but as we do more I can pay more. This is for a very prominent up and coming tv network. I am not being paid much either. Looking to build a team and make a mark. Also need a sound person. Need to shoot early next week.

Compensation: $200 for the day"

Josh Bass
November 30th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Well, he did say 20 SOMETHING. That's anywhere from 20-29.

Also, $200 isn't that bad. I've worked for that. Don't be hatin'. I guess it depends on what gear you're using.

James Emory
November 30th, 2005, 04:21 PM
I think we're losing Josh to the dark side. I don't care what the age range is and in all cases the rate is not necessarily relevant. No matter how much they offer, it doesn't guarantee that you will get paid. I once had to wait almost 60 days just to get $75!! Some people may not even get the $25 or $50 that they're promised. My point about that post is that it is odd that an age was even requested at all. I would bet $200 on the fact that this project is absolutely a nowhere dead end just based on the post itself. It screams wishful thinking which there's nothing wrong with because there's certainly nothing wrong with having ambitions and any potential crewmember has the option to take it or leave it. Unfortunately in my earlier days, I was a victim, more than once, of these types of so called producers and therefore can identify them much easier now by the way that they present their pitch.

Bill Porter
December 1st, 2005, 03:02 AM
It's illegal to discrimnate based on age so the person who wrote it is an assclown. But if you wanted really good stuff targeted for a youth audience and were going to target a certain age range, perhaps it should have been 23-33. :P

James Emory
December 1st, 2005, 03:09 AM
It's illegal to discrimnate based on age so the person who wrote it is an assclown.LMAO!!!! :O

But if you wanted really good stuff targeted for a youth audience and were going to target a certain age range, perhaps it should have been 23-33. :PI totally agree and that is more than likely what he meant but I don't think too many older folks would work on that type of project or for that rate anyway. My main issue with that post and all like it are the presumptions of up and coming this and that! Anything that is new and unknown is up and coming dammit! :O

Bill Porter
December 1st, 2005, 01:19 PM
Hey, the job post said "prominent." There are multiple definitions. One is "widely known, eminent." I agree; they can't be 'up and coming' and 'widely known.'

However, another definition is 'Immediately noticeable; conspicuous.' I would say that guy is immediately noticeable. As a hoser.

Dylan Couper
December 1st, 2005, 04:46 PM
Hey guys, that ad is offering to pay $200. Compared to the others who offer credit and footage for your reel, that's pretty darn good.

Josh Bass
December 1st, 2005, 05:14 PM
How am I lost to the dark side?

This is how I read the ad

"work = $200 a day"

. That's otay by me. What's wrong with that? Who cares if the project blows? Are you personally invested in it or are you trying to make a living? Yeah, sometimes people take forever to pay. Sometimes, even reputable (or, I should say, established companies). Apparently, that's just the way it is sometimes.

Anyway, here's one:

Looking for experienced, ambitious Production Assistants to perform 2-3 day contract shoots for a growing national marketing company. Must have reliable transportation. Must have some lighting experience, be able to follow a detailed shot sheet and know how to get around in the Houston area. We provide gas, meal allowance. The Production Assistant rate is $125.00 per day. Send contact information and resume; specify "Houston" in your response.

* Job location is Houston
* Compensation: $125.00 per day, with gas & meal allowance
* This is a contract job.
* no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!
* no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
* no -- Reposting this message elsewhere is NOT OK.

Now, granted, 125 for a PA isn't awful (at least in Houston), though 150 or 175 is better, and expected, if you have some experience.

The part I don't care is that fact that YOU'RE NOT A GODDAMN PA, YOU'RE A DP!

P.S.

Excuse/asterisk-ize the cussing.

P.P.S The company who posted the ad is crozier henderson. Oops. Did I let that out?

James Emory
December 3rd, 2005, 10:53 PM
Not sure if this is ridiculous or just pain old unique

Need a mini dv cam
HERITAGE POWER SUNDAY
Pan Afrikan Nationalism
African Security & Survival
HIV / AIDS, Bird Flu…. Genocidal Warfare
With
Xxx Jones
The War Correspondent
Sunday, December 4, 2005
4:00 pm

FREE ADMISSION!

The Afrikan Djeli Center

this is in or around Atlanta

Compensation: Sign Copy of Author, Book & Dinner

Karl Heiner
December 6th, 2005, 11:34 AM
hi gang,

i would like to address an issue, wich is bothering me a lot. off course it could have to do with how serious, and professional, those job offer posters are.

please send an e-mail back to the job applicants. straight forward yes or no.
let them know that they are not in the loop.

greetings

Josh Bass
December 6th, 2005, 02:34 PM
That doesn't mean anything. Even legit companies or whatever don't always tell you (I would say USUALLY don't bother to tell you) if you haven't been chosen.

Craig Seeman
December 7th, 2005, 01:28 PM
I think this ad is outrageous. He's a Manahttan Orthdontist (read expensive)and expects to pay an ENTIRE crew to shoot and edit a 30 spot on BetaSP or film for $500-$1000! I guess this is for those film students who bought BetaSP or 35mm packages at a "student" rate, right?!



Commercial for Manhattan Orthodontist.
Date: 2005-12-07, 1:02PM EST

I already posted 2 days ago, but am forced to clarify and narrow the search.
If you are not hired, or chooose not to bid, but still need Invisalign, I will give a real discount (not one of those fake ones). Respond if interested in this portion of the listing. (can I post a job, AND advertise?)

The spot is now a 30 second spot. Vivacious woman walks down street with two guys admiring. (I have the actors) She turns, bad teeth, guys cringe, then smile at each other. "should have seen DR. ____" then remove their own aligners they have been wearing. The final 10 seconds is of mf my office and me. My street is very quiet traffic in the mid morning- not worried about that issue

I need Beta or film High quality, need better than 24P video cam. Looking for crew, photograher, lights, all that stuff, editing. If you are a student, borrow a film camera.

Budeget of $500 to $1000. May be too low, but someone with foresight and need to build a rep will be all over it. Rememeber- I need quality better than panasonic 24P- I have seen the samples.

Bill Porter
December 7th, 2005, 01:51 PM
May be too low, but someone with foresight and need to build a rep will be all over it.

That's the funniest thing I've seen yet!

Craig Seeman
December 8th, 2005, 11:42 AM
So you should do a 4-6 shoot (doesn't even mention editing or compression) to ADVERTISE HIS BUSINESS and you get "credit." I think someone needs to create a blacklist for businesses that don't pay and the shooters who work for them!

Need DP with Own Equip for VERY short shoot soon

The details: This is a very short SILENT film clip (<5 minutes) for a website, demo reel and CD business cards. The shots are simple, the storyboard is complete and this is shootable in 4 - 6 hours (may split over two afternoons). Expenses will be covered and your work will be credited.

Would need to shoot this sometime between Dec 16 - 20. Flexible within those dates to match your schedule.

If interested, send an email with a note that gives me an idea of your experience as well as the specs of the equipment you have (or have access to).

Simon Wyndham
December 8th, 2005, 12:23 PM
One of the great questions is why the video and film world is like this? I mean does anyone go to a lawyer and say "Look, it's only a small case, can I pay you a quarter of your usual rate?"

Or a builder. "Well, the extention I want on my house is a lot smaller than the one on the house you did the other week. Can I cut your day rate in half to do mine? Oh and by the way would it be possible for you to cover the cost of all the materials?"

I just do not understand it.

Rick Steele
December 8th, 2005, 01:32 PM
I think someone needs to create a blacklist for businesses that don't pay and the shooters who work for them!The problem is that *somebody* will most likely take him up on the offer.

James Emory
December 9th, 2005, 04:48 AM
I want to show the link to their site so bad because you would absolutely laugh your ass off especially after these demands:

"YOU MUST HAVE YOUR DEMO REEL ONLINE OR EMAIL QUICKTIME THROUGH YOUSENDIT
DVD REELS ARE NOT ACCEPTED!!!!!!!!
*****

Check out XXXX.com for a trailer.

Hot in Here DVD is looking for a hot video editor.

You will get to edit footage with the hottest hip-hop, r&b and sports stars in the world.

You must have your own video editing system (Finalcut Pro preferred)

You must know how to export to quicktime and email clips(yousendit.com is ideal)

Clips are typically 5-10 minutes long and involve a lot of fast cuts and b-roll.

Graphics and color correction is a big plus.

Familiarity with Hip-Hop and urban culture a big plus.

Email sample links (not actual files) to

Compensation: $250+ per clip"

James Emory
December 9th, 2005, 04:54 AM
The toofy doc needs to stick to what he does best and not be yappin' trying to play DP. The fact is that if he wasn't there and wasn't told, he couldn't tell the difference between Beta and DV if it was shot and lit well. 24p is a different story.

Is he aware Betacams don't shoot 24p, and that 24p is good?
Josh, that's one of the few times that I agree with you, wise ass! Keep it up though, I like it! :)

James Emory
December 9th, 2005, 04:56 AM
The problem is that *somebody* will most likely take him up on the offer.
I think someone needs to create a blacklist for businesses that don't pay and the shooters who work for them!Simon and Rick, you are exactly right!

James Emory
December 9th, 2005, 05:12 AM
I didn't either, but ya don't gotta call me an asshole because of it!LMAO!!! :O You guys are just killin' me!!

Craig Seeman
December 9th, 2005, 05:46 PM
One is supposed to supply camera, light kit, wireless mic AT MIDNIGHT for a NO PAY shoot for someone's demo reel with the promise that it MIGHT lead to paid editing work!

Videography and Photographer needed

Videographer and photographer needed to cover 1-3 hrs of a fashion show for one of its make-up artist. Event is on the 16th of December between 12-2AM.Your guest are more than welcomed to come. The footage will be used for her press kit. Videographer will need DV camera with light kit and wireless or lav mic to do 2 or 3 small reaction interviews of MUA work. Photographer will only be needed to capture head on full and close-up shots of models made up by the make-up artist.
Students more than welcomed. Travel, food and networking available. No pay. However, if the videographer can edit this will lead into editing work as my reel must be edited and you will definitely be compensated. If interested please respond ASAP. Thank you for reading this post. All the best.

Craig Seeman
December 9th, 2005, 08:56 PM
One is supposed to supply camera, light kit, wireless mic AT MIDNIGHT for a NO PAY shoot for someone's demo reel with the promise that it MIGHT lead to paid editing work!


I sent them my rates for the job. Person actually runs a small production company and they responded to my email that they found someone to shoot with light kit and mics at that hour for FREE!. Again, they RUN a small production company. Guess someone is making money from FREE labor and someone is PROVIDING IT!!!!!

Tomorrow I place the ad looking for people with Thomson Viper to shoot for me for free. Aw schucks, they can stay home and just GIVE me the camera as long as they've paid for it. This way they can stay home for free and I'll use the gear!

Are people really that STUPID?

Josh Bass
December 9th, 2005, 11:21 PM
To whoever mentioned why the video/film biz is like this:

It's not just us. I think any artistically based occupation/job has this kinda crap goin' on--website designers, graphic artists, 3D modellers, actors, dancers, whatever. Seems like all the jobs that don't have traditional career paths have this issue (e.g. Lawyers don't - go to law school, pass bar, start out however they start out (no I don't know crap about lawyers), work ass off, make partner--there aren't infinite ways to become a successful lawyer, the way there are to become successful as a filmmaker/videographer/artist).

Hence, they tempt (or try to) you with bullshit about "experience, reel building, etc."

James Emory
December 10th, 2005, 02:08 AM
Well said Josh. This profession is one of the few that don't necessarily require a degree to perform services. I think that all this bullshit about how a project will be a great addition to a reel is all about the producer's eago and shows their desperation to get people to work for free or deferment! That is their opinion that it is a great project. I would be more apt to work on a project at a lower rate or possible deferment if there was alot of hands on experience to teach me the right way and fast, than to work for the idea of its content possibly being commerically or critically successful. I didn't sit around and wait for a premium paycheck when I first started in this industry. I did whatever I had to do to get experience to learn as fast as possible so I could move on and get work on better paying projects because I then had the experience. I had a mission, so in a way, I was using the cheap asses. :O Ha ha ha!! So, I don't necessarily get uptight at the very young and/or inexperienced person working for little or nothing because usually the producer will only get what they pay for. The one's that make a career out of nowhere projects are the ones that I wonder about. But sometimes these cheap ass producers will get lucky and get a future Spielberg or Lucas to work on their project and that person will move on to be successful leaving the cheap asses behind. :O Hahahahaha!

Craig Seeman
December 12th, 2005, 06:56 PM
Talk about BLATANT. So they're SELLING the Fitness DVD on Amazon and claim it's doing WELL. They want MORE BROADCAST QUALITY and want you do it for "Credit." "Willing to give credit" such sacrifice and generosity on their part.

VIDEOGRAPHER

I AM CURRENTLY SELLING AN INNOVATIVE FITNESS DVD ON AMAZON.COM AND ON MY OWN WEBSITE. I AM SELLING WELL BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RESHOOT IT FOR A MORE BROADCAST QUALITY LOOK. I AM LOOKING FOR THE HELP OF A VIDEOGRAPHER. I WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE CREDIT ON THE DVD. I AM PLANNING TO RUN CABLE ADS, ETC AND GO BIGGER ONCE THE DVD IS RESHOT
this is in or around NYC NJ

Compensation: CREDIT ON THE DVD

James Emory
December 12th, 2005, 07:24 PM
This has to be the first time I've seen a cheap ass actually reply to a post and defend themself.

"Atlanta Xxxxx Xxxx Productions is shooting a music video for a new major artist on Sat. Dec. 30th.

We need:
4(four) Production Assistants

2(two)Grips

This is not a paid shoot!! You would be working this one day for EXPERIENCE ONLY!

If you are interested in being a part of this music video then please email me with your contact info and I will get back to you ASAP"
______________________

Crew Supporter

"RE: Need P.A.'s for Music Video

If this music video shoot is for such a "major artist", then you should have the funds to pay at least a minimum amount to your PA's and grips.

FYI - grips will make or break your shoot. So will PA's, but especially grips. Their experience and motivation (or lack thereof) is the difference between an efficient, creative and happy shoot or one which has many problems. In the USA money (pay) = motivation. Pay your crew. Something. You will be glad that you did.

From a TV and video production professional with 25 years of experience.

Sincerely,

Xxxx xxxxxxxxxxx"
_____________________

Crew Supporter

"MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!!"
_____________________

Another Crew Supporter - this does happen you know!

"It's not that they don't have the money, he's probably pocketing it so he don't have to pay and find some poor eager soul to do the job."
_____________________

Another Crew Supporter - obviously hasn't seen this thread

"I cant understand why so many people think they can get professional, experienced camera people, photographers, and grips for free or nothing. everyone wants tfp now one wants to pay or if they do they want to pay 10 to 15 per hour. People the professionals that work in this feild need to make a living and are not here to volunteer thier time and talent to make you happy they need to be paid"
_______________________

Cheap Ass's Reply

"FYI we are a new production company that for the last 4 months have been doing projects for free labor, only charging equipment cost so that we can get our name out, build a diverse reel, and to master our craft. We put non paid to let you know up front, none of us are getting paid either and you can believe it or not, I am the founder of this company and 6 months ago i put an ad up for crew members to build a production team and you know what know i have one that I appreciate very much. We are all striving toward the same goals. Yes we are working with a nice artist, who is not signed but has written for almost every artist in the industry . She responded to my ad for the free videos so that's why she gets the deal. We are putting 100% of our budget toward production quality which is very important to get our product at the top. Now this is the last time I will ever come down to your level to address such a petty matter. This was only to truly represent me and my company if any one of you have any other concerns please call me and i can deal with you one on one. I don't think you would enjoy some one blasting you all over the internet would you. So call me at xxx.xxx.xxxx Otherwise those of you that wise to serve on the crew as a PA or Grip email me or give me a call."

Simon Wyndham
December 13th, 2005, 04:19 AM
If he doesn't charge for his own work how does he expect to make a living? Also, if the artist in question has written songs for almost every major singer out there then they should be raking in the money from royalties, and hence have no problem paying someone to make a video!

James Emory
December 13th, 2005, 02:26 PM
This sounds like most other business models to me. These kinds of folks always leave it open ended and very general so they can escape. None of what they describe is new or unique. $12 million in revenue in two years?

"A 15% finder’s fee will be paid for referrals that lead to qualified private investors in a new TV network. 24-hour television programming will launch on the World Wide Web as well as in Atlanta, Georgia, using an innovative and groundbreaking entertainment model. The company’s management team consists of professionals, who, combined, have well over 100 years of direct experience in the fields of television, movies, technology, business management, music, finance, marketing, law, and sales. The Company is at the start-up stage of business and expects to earn $12 million in revenue in 2006 - 2007."

James Emory
December 15th, 2005, 12:57 AM
This one's up in the air. It could be totally legitimate or maybe a tactic to get a free video camera or cameras. If I was a displaced family, I would want food, room with shower, and money, not a video camera. Hmmmm?

"I'm working on a documentary about displaced Katrina survivors from New Orleans. One of our families is having a big reunion this Sunday in Atlanta, and I would like to have some footage of the event.

The film is as of yet self-funded, so if you would be able to do it for a very cheap rate that would be much appreciated.

We're also looking for people to donate or sell cheaply their camcorders so that we can give it to the families.

I can point you to links for this project and past projects so that you can verify its legitimacy! Thank you."

Karl Heiner
December 19th, 2005, 02:36 PM
here is one, out of the craiglist:

Reply to: comm-119173590@craigslist.org
Date: 2005-12-19, 3:56AM PST


Hi

I am an experienced Videographer offering special no budget video package to shoot your band at your next show on DV video and burn it onto a DVD for only $50.00. You can use it to stream on your webpage, sell at shows, or send to bookers for more gigs or even use to it critique your live show.

If interested email me
this is in or around SF/East Bay

no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

Craig Seeman
December 19th, 2005, 03:22 PM
He either sells lemonade at 25¢ a glass on the corner or he's working at MickyD's during the day. Maybe send him an email back asking how much he's selling the camera for because he probably can't even make the credit card bill let alone put food on the table. He's gotta be within walking distance to the club too since he certainly can't afford cab fare, gas/parking if it's his own car (how's he paying for the car?).

BTW I've been underbid by people doing corporate work at that rate!


Hi

I am an experienced Videographer offering special no budget video package to shoot your band at your next show on DV video and burn it onto a DVD for only $50.00. You can use it to stream on your webpage, sell at shows, or send to bookers for more gigs or even use to it critique your live show.

If interested email me
this is in or around SF/East Bay

James Emory
December 20th, 2005, 12:22 PM
Yet another tell me why you're good enough to work with me for free post. This person has won an Emmy but won't even provide their identity.

"I need an intern that "get's it". School credit fine/no pay. If you want a career in the TV business and are willing to do loads of research, book celebs, and are not easily intimidated--I want to talk to you! I don't care if you go/went to Harvard....be passionate about TV and the entertainment industry. MUST be resourceful. Need someone next week for a few months---possibly long term--if you knock my socks off possible future paying position. I worked as an Intern for a year for free and ended up winning an Emmy. Let me know why I should give you this opportunity. Be brief.

Compensation: Intern/School Credit"

James Emory
December 20th, 2005, 12:24 PM
If these folks actually followed their own rules, this thread probably wouldn't exist. I couldn't believe this when I saw it. Who's not doing their job screening their posts?

Craig's List Rules
https://post.craigslist.org/atl/J?guide=yes

Josh Bass
December 20th, 2005, 12:48 PM
I still say free internships for college credit are not suitable for this thread, but whatever.

James Emory
December 20th, 2005, 12:54 PM
I still say free internships for college credit are not suitable for this thread, but whatever.What does that have to do with anything? It has been stated many different times in many different ways that it's not a bad thing to work for free for experience or whatever or deferred for decent people. This thread was created to specifically feature and expose the ridiculous jerks out there that try to use and abuse decent people with deception and outrageous terms. If anything, this thread could be an eye opener to a college kid that sees it to show them the unfortunate proliferation of this crap plaguing our industry. It is what it is so don't look into it so much.

Josh Bass
December 20th, 2005, 01:06 PM
"Originally Posted by Josh Bass
I still say free internships for college credit are not suitable for this thread, but whatever."

"What does that have to do with anything?"

Um. . .

'I need an intern that "get's it". School credit fine/no pay'
'Compensation: Intern/School Credit'

All I'm saying is if the thread is about "ridiculous job offers", and unpaid internships for college credit are not ridiculous, then. . .