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George Ellis
January 10th, 2006, 07:34 PM
Talk about being up sh!t creek without a paddle!

That part about two other editors quitting probably shouldn't have been mentioned publicly. Inquiries ought to drop to zero now. I wonder why they quit. This is sure to be a deadlock now if they can't find somone willing to work without a deposit and they won't pay one because of what happened. No pay until completion is a slippery situation for an unknown company because it is synonymous with and just screams possible shadiness.

"Looking for an editor using FCP or Avid to complete the editing for an independent movie shot in 2003. The pay for this project can be negotiated based on experience and amount of time you are able to spend on the project. Although no payment is given until the project is complete. This only a precaution after dealing with two separate editors that left the project after partial payment. We will supply you all Mini-DV tapes and a script. Please contact us with a resume and contact number to reach you at..."
WOW! A first for me. Just above this ad (I know where James got it), there was one that actually pays well. Just wow, what a shock for a change.

James Emory
January 10th, 2006, 08:09 PM
......there was one that actually pays well. Just wow, what a shock for a change.
Are you speaking of the $10K project. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. How much do you want to bet it's deferred until after it hits worldwide distribution and makes a hundred trillion dollars? At lease he didn't say up and coming! Hahaha LMAO!!

Josh Bass
January 10th, 2006, 09:28 PM
Rap videos, from what I hear, are notorious for dangerous/abusive working conditions--insane hours, drive bys (for real), etc.

James Emory
January 10th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Rap videos, from what I hear, are notorious for dangerous/abusive working conditions--insane hours, drive bys (for real), etc.
I've heard of loooong days, like 18-20 hrs, but drive bys? That qualifies for harzardous duty pay!

Josh Bass
January 10th, 2006, 11:31 PM
True story---

A group was shooting a video in Houston, and at some point, some dudes drove by, and some other dudes were on set in a car, and the two groups exchanged words, gunshots were fired, someone got it in the face, and everybody quickly left the set.

George Ellis
January 11th, 2006, 10:19 AM
So, really that ad is No/Low, but has a $10k hazardous duty pay rider.

Brian Wells
January 11th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Arrrggghh! The nerve!
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This is great part-time work. We have (5) hotels in downtown Indianapolis that need digital pictures taken each Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. This route pays $50 per week total. Must have digital camera, reliable
transportation and internet service. Please provide contact information.

Position starts as soon as possible!

Only serious and interested applicants need respond.
Compensation: This route pays $50 per week total.
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It's kind of scary, like they are stalking someone or something. Hmm....

Karl Heiner
January 12th, 2006, 06:41 PM
here is a job offer out of the sfo craiglist....lol

Creative Videographer Wanted to Trade 5 Minute Video For Healing

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Reply to: gigs-124813243@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-12, 1:25PM PST


I'm an internationally known healer and author and I need a 5-minute video cut from some new footage to be shot and footage I already have of myself working in the operating room. I charge $250 an hour for my healing sessions and would be willing to offer you twenty healing sessions for the work.


this is in or around Bay Area

no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

Craig Seeman
January 13th, 2006, 04:11 PM
So I guess they should have no problem paying $100 an hour for the video.

I'm still waiting for the lawyer who'll ask you to shoot video depositions for free and in return he'll take care of your bankruptcy case.


here is a job offer out of the sfo craiglist....lol

Creative Videographer Wanted to Trade 5 Minute Video For Healing

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Reply to: gigs-124813243@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-12, 1:25PM PST


I'm an internationally known healer and author and I need a 5-minute video cut from some new footage to be shot and footage I already have of myself working in the operating room. I charge $250 an hour for my healing sessions and would be willing to offer you twenty healing sessions for the work.


this is in or around Bay Area

no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

Craig Seeman
January 13th, 2006, 04:14 PM
Can I hire him out at that rate and in return I'll let him use the material for his reel. I'll make a bundle charging the client really low rates. Heck if he has a Cine Alta I'll burn the DVDs for him!


FREE EDITING

Reply to: gigs-125086400@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-13, 3:29PM EST


I WILL EDIT UP TO 10 COMPANIES VIDEO FOR FREE AS LONG AS YOU ALOW ME TO US IN A ONLINE/CD/DVD PORTFOLIO.IF INTERESTED PLEASE REPLY.

Josh Bass
January 13th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Ok, got a whopper:

"Crewing up for Ground-breaking film (Camera/DP , Sound, PR/Marketing)

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Reply to: gigs-125199379@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-13, 11:30PM EST


Get ready for greatness. Back East Productions is producing a feature length movie in just 30 days, and we are looking for people to help us shoot and record sound.

More specifically, we need a shooter with their own mini-dv camera with a good "film look" (like the Panasonic DVX 100A). Please have a reel. We only have a few days to make a decision. Also, we need someone to record sound during the shoot. Must be knowledgeable about recording sound in tricky conditions (i.e. dealing with urban sounds).

We also need someone who can promote our project. We have a very marketable project here: a movie produced in a month by a couple who is planning their wedding... and we have day jobs.

We are offering deferred payment/profit sharing. There is a lot of buzz about our project as people are really taken by the ambition of our project. We have amazing actors who will make us all look good, and a compelling story for them to utilize.

Check out backeastproductions.com to see our production blog so far and to learn more about our project.

You see, my approach to this project is to cast BEFORE the script is written. I think it would be easier to tailor a script to the talent available, rather than write a script and comb the Earth trying to find talent to match the characters. I’m betting that I’ll find a story derived from the inspiration of the casting process. So after auditions, I’ll craft a script based around a small group of actors with parts written just for them.

Put another way, we started this having no idea what the story is. Genre? Not a clue. Two weeks later, we have a script and are shooting next week!

We begin our 4-day shoot beginning on January 20.

Tentative schedule
Auditions: Thursday night, Jan 5 and Saturday morning, Jan 7
Script: Jan 7-Jan 12
Rehearse/Re-write/Improv- Friday, Jan 13-Thursday, Jan 19 (night and weekends)
Shoot: Friday, Jan 20 – Monday, Jan 23. 4 day shoot, so give notice to your boss!
Edit: Tuesday Jan 24-Jan31

I’m certain we’ll have a very marketable product, from the talent involved in the production, to the novelty and ambition of the production process. "

It doesn't say it's unpaid (does it?) But come on. . .we all know it is.

James Emory
January 13th, 2006, 11:54 PM
They've got it all figured out don't they! Just another example of these mentally ill people who think they are a major studio with a complete staff including production, marketing and distribution. Oh, we're going to do this and that, and well, hopefully we'll have the money, well, we'll worry about that later.



It doesn't say it's unpaid (does it?) But come on. . .we all know it is.
Come on Josh, now you know that deferred means unpaid! Just look it up in your indie translation book.

James Emory
January 13th, 2006, 11:58 PM
At first I felt sorry for this person but near the end that went straight out the window! I have italicized the reason. This person must have just fallen off the grip truck yesterday. $25 is not that much but when you multiply that by 100, no, 50 suckers, that's not a bad day's work. This person didn't pay it to say that it's sometimes acceptable. Unbelievable folks!

"City Hall East, a so called "Law and Order" type crime drama is a scam. At the least, highly unprofessional and disrespectful in how they deal with actors. I wrote them requesting an audition as instructed on their website. They wrote back and said they would schedule one for tomorrow morning. But then, after I turned down other work that I really needed to support my family (most of us have to moonlight at other things), they wrote back to give me further directions and instructions that I would have to pay $25 for the golden opportunity. I tried to explain that if this were the case, they should wave the fee in my case because of the reasons I have mentioned. They wrote back giving me some bull about how the things in life that are worth anything are worth paying for. When I said I wouldn't mind paying if I had it but don't and that they should do the right thing by keeping their original commitment (which didn't mention pay)they warned me that I had better not make waves if I ever wanted the chance to audition for them in the future. Oh, and by the way, they had already told me this was the last opportunity to do so.

I originally said that I wouldn't mind paying if I had it because it was the best I could do to try to make the most of what I had left (after turning down another gig). But the truth of the matter is that talent should never have to pay to do such a thing. It was never explained why they needed it or if they are truely a reputabale and legit company. It is true that it sometimes takes money to make money and this is something we do when we put our hard earned money into lessons, headshots and such. But this sort of thing is just parasitic and there is not even any evidence that they are a true production. They originally said that the auditions were going to be one of their offices around town and they are actually having people go to a night club to do them.

If indie film makers sometimes need to take an innovative approach to producing there work, I don't see anything absolutely wrong with asking certain talent they are working with to make sacrifices (if the talent doesn't mind doing so)if they are going to be considered a partner of some kind (even for just a small %). This is not the case with this production who is claiming to be a full fledged television series and who is not offering anything for the $25 they ask for except that you will be on their good side or won't be labed a pariah by them for not having the funds. This does not asure you a role or that they even exist as a production company. And so where is your hard earned money going? This, coupled with the fact that they are not even willing to wave one fee based on (at best) a mistake they made, is even further indication that they are nothing more than a scam. Quality artists, don't waste your time.

Always remember the numerous cases of actors who struggled for years before others recognized them and also the thousand of hopefuls who pay tons of money on image, plastic surgery, and this sort of bribing, yet who can't act their way out of a paper bag"

Josh Bass
January 14th, 2006, 03:16 AM
Sorry, I missed that "deferred" bit when I read it.

Poor bastard. Thank. . .cussing cuss curse we're not actors. Eh?

James Emory
January 16th, 2006, 06:08 PM
The majority of pay on a deferred project? I wonder where the other part will come from on a deferred project? The majority of pay will come with selling of film just like the majority of pay for a cook at McDonald's comes from selling hamburgers. Interesting concept.

The fact that they have several offers makes me feel a whole lot better, whew!

This is the best part: The deferred pay, the pay your not going to get, is possibly $100 / day.

"Looking for film crew to shoot low budget film - majority of pay will come with selling of film (we already have several offers) Must be Good at what you do - need to be available for 2 full weeks - Meals included. Shooting dates will be Feb 7th - 21st

this is in or around Xxxxxxx

Compensation: Deferred - Possible $100 p/ day"

Josh Bass
January 16th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Kinda off topic--

How come they always say "serious applicants only".

Am I going to apply as a joke (well, some of you people might)?

James Emory
January 16th, 2006, 06:29 PM
Kinda off topic--

How come they always say "serious applicants only".

Am I going to apply as a joke (well, some of you people might)?
Because they don't want clowns working on their serious, professional and did I mention deferred project.

It seems like it would be the opposite. Wanting naive people that will believe their crap and buy into their wonder project.

These types of folks and posts just make me want to VOMICK!!

Josh Bass
January 16th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Yeah, but see, if you have big serious dreams, you don't want the naive, even if they are more pliable, on your project.

I dunno, I wouldn't trust someone too much that I wasn't paying unless it was a collaboration with a longtime friend. But I'd treat 'em reaaaaaaaaal good. Cause they got no reason to stay.

Josh Bass
January 17th, 2006, 02:15 AM
I guess this isn't that crazy. . .but it's certainly ambitious for not paying--

Hey, guess who doesn't work for free? Key Grips, FX people, fight choreographers. I don't know about the rest. I guess if they'll take anyone, then no big whoop, seriously, why would anyone with enough experience to call themselves a Key grip, for instance, do this?

"Reply to: aktsfilm@yahoo.com
Date: 2006-01-15, 2:59AM CST


Hello All,
From the Flames Productions is currently in Pre-production for a
30-minute short romantic comedy that will be shot in the Austin area.
We are seeking experienced crewmembers. We are in need of:

Asst. fight choreographer
Gaffer assistant
Key grip
Sound tech
FX makeup artist- someone with knowledge of liquid latex, adhesives, and prosthetics.
Production assistants
Continuity person- some one with a very good eye for details.
Craft services- someone who can assist me in the kitchen with catering meals for the cast and crew during the shoots.
Cameraman who has experience with the canon XL series cameras,
Wardrobe/props manager.

We are also in need of a very talented seamstress, who can make custom dress for a fairy/goddess character.


WE NEED still photographers who will document the production process for us.
(If you respond for photographer, please attach some examples of your work.
We will also need a storyboard artist (if you respond for story board artist, please attach some examples of your work, and let me know how quick you are)

We are also seeking local bands that would like a chance to be featured
on the soundtrack.

We will consider RTF students in their Jr. and Sr. year who are looking
to add to their resume.

This short film will be entered into multiple film festivals in 2006
and 2007.

We will be filming on WEEKENDS in February and possibly March.
Please submit Resumes, Reels and Demos to aktsfilm@yahoo.com

Also, if you have questions please feel free to contact me at the same
email address.
Compensation: A copy of the finished DVD, screen credit, credit and a
listing on the website, a link to a resume or approved website, and the
chance to have their talent highlighted in the film festival circuit.
This film will be listed on IMDB, and will be listed with the WGA.
This is a low budget short, so there will not be any monetary
compensation.
Take care,
Robin Blesch
Producer


* this is in or around Austin, TX"

James Emory
January 17th, 2006, 08:20 PM
4 hours max? Well that makes me feel better. No, wait a minute, that's just for the hours of shooting not including editing. Oh, I get to do that for free? Ok, thanks!

"Professional Videographer needed for an event to be held Monday Jan. 30th.

Filming will last for at least 3 hours. Must be able to produce High-Quality video & also finished edited product. Digital equipment perferred be not required.

Must have previous work experience (video) to submit as examples.

The job pays $25 per hour with 3 hour minimum & 4 hour max. :)

For more info feel free to call Xxxxxxxxxxx or respond to email below."

Josh Bass
January 17th, 2006, 10:23 PM
If the editing paid, I'd do it. If not, then yeah, it's crap.

Josh Bass
January 17th, 2006, 10:49 PM
Ok, I got the best one ever.

"Two photographers documenting our erotic time in the homes of others - some friends, some strangers. If you'd be willing to donate your space for us to use as a set of sorts, please contact us. Your compensation is photo and video of us in your home. You can see a few of our images at



flickr.com/photos/tetheredtothesun




a site which will be fully updated in the next week. Plenty of personal and professional references to assure you as to the safety of your home - we'll leave it as we found it and we only need a few hours. As long as its empty - its perfect.

* this is in or around Houston
* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: Photo/Video documentation "

Josh Bass
January 17th, 2006, 11:30 PM
And another, more relevant:

"Need students and talent for Capitol Records shoot
Reply to: gigs-126237520@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-17, 10:03PM EST


We have been asked by Capitol Records to produce a demo music video for recently signed band, Hurt. www.hurtband.com. We need talented visual artists to help us produce a worthy demo for the record label. This is a non-paying gig but if we are granted the contract we will be operating under a full scale budget. Visual FX people and makeup artists are something that we really need. Check out our affiliate at www.buzzmediaproductions.com

* this is in or around NJ
* no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: Future consideration for major label projects "

Damn. . .too bad those record companies are so poor and can't pay their crews.

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 04:03 AM
If the editing paid, I'd do it. If not, then yeah, it's crap.
You mean to tell me that you would shoot with your camera for four hours for $100 or $25/hour? What would you do, charge $200 / hour to edit to make up for the loss in the shoot?

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 04:06 AM
We have been asked by Capitol Records to produce a demo music video for recently signed band, Hurt.
Looks like they're hurting for money! :O

Josh Bass
January 18th, 2006, 05:54 AM
I don't know 'bout you, dude, but I don't seem to be able to command a whole hell of a lot for a shoot with the XL1s. So, yeah, 25 an hour ain't too bad for me. I understand if it doesn't work for you, but that's you. Keep in mind, that's $250 a day if it's a 10 hour day, and that's not a bad rate for me.

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 11:52 AM
I don't know 'bout you, dude, but I don't seem to be able to command a whole hell of a lot for a shoot with the XL1s. So, yeah, 25 an hour ain't too bad for me. I understand if it doesn't work for you, but that's you. Keep in mind, that's $250 a day if it's a 10 hour day, and that's not a bad rate for me.
It ain't $250/day when that cheapass above is paying you and that's what I'm talking about!! $250/day is what you should be charging for your camera alone. That's what I do and the labor is extra.

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 01:04 PM
"Producer is looking to partner up with other Producers/Directors splitting the costs on Film/Television projects. I prefer to work with someone who has partial funds between $100,000 and $1 million and who has already selected the project to be produced. Please contact me at xxx.xxx.xxxx.

Compensation: $500"

Uhhh, who wouldn't? What does $500 mean for this inquiry anyway?

I prefer to own a $100K Cine Alta F900 instead of a $3500 XL-1.

Josh Bass
January 18th, 2006, 05:40 PM
James, I commend you for being able to get those rates for a camera alone, especiallys since most rental houses (around here, can't speak for anywhere else) only charge $175 for their DVXs). I cannot.

Anyway, this one wouldn't be that notable except for the attitude:

"THIS WEEKEND: Videographer/Cameraperson for MA documentary short
Reply to: gigs-126419019@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-18, 2:51PM EST


THIS WEEKEND, we're shooting some B roll for a mini-documentary on a martial arts legend. This martial artist is arguably one of the best self-defense practitioners in the world, and certainly one of the most controversial.

We have a Sony TRV900 (though you can use your own equipment if you prefer) and a shotgun mic. We're looking for someone to videotape during the seminar(s). Prefer a martial artist enthusiast. It will be either Saturday or Sunday (flexible), and you will be working with a director. There is no pay available. We are offering one month of quality instruction in our school, and of course you gain access to these exclusive seminars with this master--which we guarantee will not be boring. He is also one of the most charming and funny personalities you will meet.

Please don't respond if you don't have experience getting good shots as a videographer. We could ask any one of the students to hold a camera; we want someone who knows how to shoot. Please send a resume, cover letter, and if possible some links to your material.

* There's also a brief interview with him that we're working out for Sunday, and may need minimal lights (or someone who knows how to light with practicals), so if you take an interest and want to contribute further, we would not turn you away.

Thanks for looking! "

My, aren't we cocky for a non-paying gig! And I like how they somehow learned the meaning of "practicals".

K. Forman
January 18th, 2006, 05:52 PM
I found this on Craigslist Orlando. You decide for your self what is up with this guy.

Like making movies without all the cameras
Reply to: gigs-123019047@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-05, 11:26PM EST


Hi, I'm a single, white, professional male, 29, 6'3" tall, and slender/average build. I'd like to find beautiful model types interested in doing incredible sex scenes together without all the cameras or production people . I'm not camera shy, and am, in fact, an amateur photographer, so if you'd like to record the event or take some photos to fill out your portfolio, I'm down for that, too. Pay is open and negotiable: just make an offer, tell me what's included, and, if possible, send me a recent photo or two...we'll negotiate it out from there. Why not have fun and make a few bucks while doing it? Hope to talk to you soon.

Josh Bass
January 18th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Awesome. Simply awesome.

So he's basically advertising for a prostitute, and if she happens to want to record it, cool, but not necessary.

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 07:07 PM
James, I commend you for being able to get those rates for a camera alone, especiallys since most rental houses (around here, can't speak for anywhere else) only charge $175 for their DVXs). I cannot.
Well, let me say that the only time I get that rate for my gear is for corporate and personal clients. I've only gotten that once x2 on a network show for 3 days and about five times x2 on a 5 day pilot. There's no way that would fly with most of the other production companies I currently and have worked for. In fact I lost $350 over a 2 day rental ($175 per day) for one of my cameras because I held my ground. They ended up getting a DSR 570 with a $15K HD lens for the rate of a PD 150 because the rental house was out of PD 150s. What a deal, they made out great on that deal! I worked on the show but I just didn't get the rental. I could kick myself for that one but I thought they would come around. A lesson learned. I am not a rental house though so I can't give those rates. They usually have several units and that's all they do. I have to be the operator of my gear except for a couple of other shooters that I trust and we share our gear for rentals all the time.

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 07:13 PM
"Please don't respond if you don't have experience getting good shots as a videographer. We could ask any one of the students to hold a camera; we want someone who knows how to shoot."
Hahahahaha, LMAO! Then why the hell don't they!

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Keith, that's right up there with Josh's earlier post. Downright naughty, not to mention strange!

K. Forman
January 18th, 2006, 07:30 PM
James... Does that not fall in with this topic? If not, I appologise. It's title caught my eye, and of course, curiosity made me read the thing. Then, I laughed, and thought of this thread :)

Josh Bass
January 18th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Ah, well, there you go. I don't have clients, per se, usually work for production companies, and I've certainly never had the honor of working on a real show. Well, not as a camera guy anyway. I've done the PA thing.

James Emory
January 18th, 2006, 09:40 PM
James... Does that not fall in with this topic?
Well of course it does if it involves video production along with ridiculous and/or strange terms! And that..........is ridiculous and strange, not to mention just plain naughty.

Craig Seeman
January 19th, 2006, 12:13 AM
James, are you looking at craigslist NYC? I saw the exact same post there.


4 hours max? Well that makes me feel better. No, wait a minute, that's just for the hours of shooting not including editing. Oh, I get to do that for free? Ok, thanks!

"Professional Videographer needed for an event to be held Monday Jan. 30th.

Filming will last for at least 3 hours. Must be able to produce High-Quality video & also finished edited product. Digital equipment perferred be not required.

Must have previous work experience (video) to submit as examples.

The job pays $25 per hour with 3 hour minimum & 4 hour max. :)

For more info feel free to call Xxxxxxxxxxx or respond to email below."

Craig Seeman
January 19th, 2006, 12:18 AM
Josh, did you see this in Houston? This too was posted on Craigslist NYC today too.

Anyway, this one wouldn't be that notable except for the attitude:

"THIS WEEKEND: Videographer/Cameraperson for MA documentary short
Reply to: gigs-126419019@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-01-18, 2:51PM EST


THIS WEEKEND, we're shooting some B roll for a mini-documentary on a martial arts legend. This martial artist is arguably one of the best self-defense practitioners in the world, and certainly one of the most controversial.

We have a Sony TRV900 (though you can use your own equipment if you prefer) and a shotgun mic. We're looking for someone to videotape during the seminar(s). Prefer a martial artist enthusiast. It will be either Saturday or Sunday (flexible), and you will be working with a director. There is no pay available. We are offering one month of quality instruction in our school, and of course you gain access to these exclusive seminars with this master--which we guarantee will not be boring. He is also one of the most charming and funny personalities you will meet.

Please don't respond if you don't have experience getting good shots as a videographer. We could ask any one of the students to hold a camera; we want someone who knows how to shoot. Please send a resume, cover letter, and if possible some links to your material.

* There's also a brief interview with him that we're working out for Sunday, and may need minimal lights (or someone who knows how to light with practicals), so if you take an interest and want to contribute further, we would not turn you away.

Thanks for looking! "

My, aren't we cocky for a non-paying gig! And I like how they somehow learned the meaning of "practicals".

James Emory
January 19th, 2006, 01:45 AM
James, are you looking at craigslist NYC? I saw the exact same post there.
Yep, I wonder where this event is? If the pay is so low then how are they going to travel a crew? Cheap and dumb!

Josh Bass
January 19th, 2006, 02:35 AM
Damn. . .you bastards found my secret ridiculous post goldmine.

K. Forman
January 19th, 2006, 06:22 AM
This one seems pretty low ball to me as well...

Vacancy: Live Broadcast Crew
Employer: Gem & Jewelry Network
Location: Kissimmee
Duration: This is a permanent position, starts Immediately

Looking to work with a national television company that’s going big places?

Now hiring experienced production personnel for an immediate start for live nightly broadcasts.

Must be willing to work nights, live near or be able to drive to Kissimmee. Pay starts at $10/hour and higher based on experience.

Positions Available:

Studio Camera Operator

We are hiring studio camera operators for live national broadcasts. Duties include, but are not limited to, all aspects of operation: studio camera operator, studio set-up and cleaning, assisting with studio lighting and other general duties as assigned. Creativity, technical know-how and the ability to work quickly and under pressure is also encouraged.

Simon Wyndham
January 19th, 2006, 06:30 AM
ROTFLOL!! $10 an hour for a live broadcast crew?! Thats only just above the minimum wage in the UK!

What are they using in their OB truck? A Fisher Price "My First OB Kit"?

K. Forman
January 19th, 2006, 07:55 AM
I agree 100%. It is amazing the people with legitimate production jobs paying almost nothing, yet I saw an ad for camera op in adult films paying $300-$500 per shoot. If this keeps up, I'll ditch legitimate production.

Simon Wyndham
January 19th, 2006, 08:17 AM
No need to ditch legit production. Just run your own company. The companies that do this kind of low balling rake in the money for themselves while paying the people who help them to make that money absolutely zero.

The saying that applies very well to the video and film world is that "you get what you pay for". No matter how saturated the market becomes, the really skilled people will not lowball. Cheap will always remain cheap, and their productions will reflect that. One way to combat this is for people, even newbies, NOT to lowball themselves. We enjoy our work for sure, but everyone in this business has to make enough money to live on.

Problem is that there is always a University leaver somewhere who wants to get their foot in the door and will go to any lengths to do so, and will accept such rates. And there's a load of production companies out there that know this.

Reid Bailey
January 19th, 2006, 08:38 AM
The Ninja site was great!
Especially the hate mail. How big of a stick do some people have up their keester? Did anyone ever have a disucssion with one of the "real pratictioners" about how ninjas can really turn themselves invisible...

And laugh all you want to, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone picked up that superhero show. Kind of like a scripted "jackass"...

K. Forman
January 19th, 2006, 08:40 AM
The Ninja site was great!
Especially the hate mail. How big of a stick do some people have up their keester? Did anyone ever have a disucssion with one of the "real pratictioners" about how ninjas can really turn themselves invisible...

And laugh all you want to, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone picked up that superhero show. Kind of like a scripted "jackass"...
I'd watch it... if nothing else, just because I enjoy watching some idiot get a whoopin ;)

James Emory
January 19th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Damn. . .you bastards found my secret ridiculous post goldmine.
Who are you calling a bastard?

James Emory
January 19th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Hahahahaha! I'm with Keith and Simon. That is absolutely f***king ridiculous!! LMAO!! Please give me their number. I think I have seen that show way up in the channels on Comcast. Who allows these cheap asses to broadcast nationally with their CZ bubblegum machine crapola!?

James Emory
January 19th, 2006, 06:08 PM
These cheapasses must be related to the jewelry folks. The really mean gaffers but for the PA rate. How can they say they are the fastest growing production company in the ATL? What if I said mine was or if you said yours was, it would be anarchy! If $10/hour pay represents success for the fastest production company in Atlanta, we're in big trouble!

"We are looking for production assistants for various projects. Some experience with lights, etc. preferred. please email resume and references. Good entry level work for ambitious young people with Atlanta's fastest growing video production company.

Compensation: Starts at $10 per hour"