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Bill Grant November 30th, 2012 10:26 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Ok. So, I own a 5DmkIII and some good lenses. What's possible here that couldn't be done with my mkIII? I want to understand... (because I would have to explain it to my wife)
Bill

Tim Bakland November 30th, 2012 11:15 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Grant (Post 1765850)
Ok. So, I own a 5DmkIII and some good lenses. What's possible here that couldn't be done with my mkIII? I want to understand... (because I would have to explain it to my wife)
Bill

From what I see in the posts and in the few examples out so far, Bill, consensus seems to be that it's not that the C100 blows away the image of the MKIII, but that it still wins out due to better sharpness and better dynamic range overall -- the cinema log being a great plus, too. And then of course there's the benefits of having the video camera controls w/ better audio, etc. But I'm not a MKIII owner; rather I'm an XF300 and T3i owner trying to figure out which direction to go in next... and I have a wife, too.

Bill Grant December 1st, 2012 08:55 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Right. I was about to pull the trigger on a 6D to replace my 60D which, frankly can't compete at receptions with the mkIII. But, you know how this goes, if I was gonna spend $2100 might as well spend $6500... :)

Nigel Barker December 1st, 2012 10:24 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
I use the 5D3s & a C300. I think that for my purposes the C100 would be as good as the C300. The images look just as good in terms of resolution & dynamic range (where the C300 makes my 5D3s look inadequate) & I don't need a broadcast ready CODEC. As it's half the price if I were buying today I would probably save my money & buy a C100 as it has a couple of additional features that I would like e.g. AWB, push AF, 15% smaller & lighter.

Dan Burnap December 2nd, 2012 02:37 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
NIgel, have you considered selling your C300 and the Mk3 to buy a couple (or 3!) C100s? There is a lot to be said in having just one type of camera to make life easier not to mention having all the images match.

I am considering selling my camcorders (HMC150s) and MK3 to replace with C100s picking up a couple

Having said that, for the bride prep a DSLR would still probably be a good choice for portability and compactness. A C100 isnt big but a DSLR is smaller.

Darren Levine December 2nd, 2012 09:56 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
if i'm reading the specs list correctly... they didn't give the c100 the wft port? can someone confirm this on their camera. rather disappointing if they left that bit out

Peter Chaney December 3rd, 2012 12:54 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Levine (Post 1765998)
if i'm reading the specs list correctly... they didn't give the c100 the wft port? can someone confirm this on their camera. rather disappointing if they left that bit out

I can confirm they left out the WFT port and only the C300 and C500 are WFT capable. Canon had to take away some of the C300 features to make the price point low and not take sales away from the C300.

Anthony Mozora December 4th, 2012 02:49 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 


Mark Koha December 4th, 2012 08:40 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
I'm not sure what I like more, the way all that footage turned out or the subject material itself. Awesome little piece.

Monday Isa December 5th, 2012 05:02 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
So I decided on a whim to buy the C100 after all. Coming from using the AF100 man it's going to take a while to get use to shooting with this new camcorder. Liking it so far though.

*One thing I notice that hasn't been mentioned is that while filming you can change the ISO in increments just like a DSLR. You are not stuck with 3 ISO/Gain settings while recording.

Dom Stevenson December 6th, 2012 12:39 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
re Pulse.
Hugely impressive piece of work. At times the shallow DOF is a bit much for me, as i'm not sure what i'm supposed to be focussing on, and would rather see more of the image sharply. Even so the colours and the image quality are superb. I did notice some funky stuff in the motion, but that's probably the internet.

Interesting subject matter too. Thanks for posting.

Nigel Barker December 7th, 2012 09:14 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Burnap (Post 1765962)
NIgel, have you considered selling your C300 and the Mk3 to buy a couple (or 3!) C100s? There is a lot to be said in having just one type of camera to make life easier not to mention having all the images match.

I have certainly considered it & am just about to put my C300 up for sale (anyone interested?:-)

Now I have had the opportunity to use a C100 & realise that it does do everything that the C300 can do for me & more. The first thing that stuck me is how much smaller & lighter the C100 is compared to the C300 without any compromise on build quality. The EVF has noticeably higher resolution compared to the one on the XF105 but is not as good to use because it is fixed (the XF105 extends & swivels up & down) but crucially lacks a proper eye-cup. It also lacks anywhere to fit an eye-cup. It's a shame as if you could get you eye comfortably up to the EVF then the image is fine. The LCD is decent. Not as good as the C300 but sImilar to the one on the 5D3. It is a little restricted in how you can position it but good enough.

Philip Lipetz December 7th, 2012 09:32 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
The Canon C100 EVF is pretty good if you crank your head to the side to fit the strange eyecup to your face, not the normal head position for using an EVF. Don't bother with the LCD for hand held now, the image is pretty good, You cannot use the EVF in the same head position as you would have on an C300

Darren Levine December 10th, 2012 10:48 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
been playing with it a bit, and i must have an unusually shaped head, as i don't find it terribly uncomfortable to use the evf. my forhead braces against the top handle and seem decent enough to deal with.

one thing i am wondering is if the rubber of the evf can come off in lieu of an aftermarket option

having a little bit of fun with it thus far. still on the wall about profiles. log gives a lovely blank canvas, but in hauling down those highlights it does bring down the overall exposure a decent notch

Wil Vermeesch December 11th, 2012 01:46 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Hi,

Reading all information and looking to the samples, my question is what kind of lens is everybody using or what is adviced.
I know there are a lot of possibilities but when you are putting movies on please mention also which lens used because this wil make for certain people the choise easier.

THX
Wil

Andy Wilkinson December 11th, 2012 02:02 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Many (like me) will use the Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS EF-S as the main 'go to/walkabout' lens on this cam. If you buy only one lens for it, my advice is to get this one.

Sam Tansey December 11th, 2012 03:10 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
A full kit of lenses for me would be a tokina 11-16 f2.8 , Canon or Tamron 17-55 f2.8 (depending on budget) and a Canon 70-200.

Primes and Macro lenses are great too but imo more for effects and cinema style stuff where you want to avoid distortion at all costs or want a shallower DOF.

Chris Hurd December 11th, 2012 08:41 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Thread moved (finally) from Industry News to Cinema EOS.

Jim Martin December 11th, 2012 11:39 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Chris! you're Alive! been missing you.........

Jim Martin
Filmtools.com

Sachi Bahra December 14th, 2012 01:52 PM

Canon EOS C100
 
Has anyone used this camera yet and has anything negative to say about it? I am looking to upgrade into the near future and I'm thinking about getting this.

Monday Isa December 14th, 2012 04:23 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sachi Bahra (Post 1767966)
Has anyone used this camera yet and has anything negative to say about it? I am looking to upgrade into the near future and I'm thinking about getting this.

Yes used it on 2 weddings so far. The EVF is pretty much useless for me. Taking a while getting use to where certain buttons are located. I really miss the ability do Over/Under-crank and no 60P. Besides that very happy with the image. Great improvement over my previous camera. Haven't blown the highlights badly as the other cam did. 87% a happy customer.

Matt Davis December 15th, 2012 02:42 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sachi Bahra (Post 1767966)
Has anyone used this camera yet and has anything negative to say about it.

LOL! Okay...

It doesn't have 720p50/60, it doesn't have an intervalometer, it doesn't show 'Shot Duration' whilst shooting, you can't really control the camera without the hand grip attached, only one manufacturer at present is supporting the HDMI start/stop protocol (others may follow), the EVF is a little small, the codec shows pain on scenes of high detail with fast motion, the screen won't tilt down or face front, there's no built-in mic for scratch audio unless you fit the top handle,

It's easy to poke and find fault. But a lot of us are voting with our hard-earned cash. My FS100 has paid for its self, and it's there for when I need it, but I've got a whole lot of run & gun stuff to do next year, the market's gone 1080p over 720p, I don't need slomo, and so it's only the lack of the intervalometer that sucks.

I think the biggest negative has already been outed: The C100 is just a gateway drug to the C300.

Richard Jacobs December 15th, 2012 08:05 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Yep, I didn't even inhale and I'm hooked..
Translation,, just ogling the C100 has only convinced me that the C300 is my next camera.

"The C100 is just a gateway drug to the C300."

Darren Levine December 15th, 2012 08:25 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
to be clear, the c100 screen DOES face down, and does face forward a little bit, just barely enough i've found to be somewhat helpful for self interviews.

and the lack of a body mic can be fixed with any sub $20 laptop mic, so not really a big hassle there.

Nigel Barker December 15th, 2012 10:37 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Levine (Post 1768050)
and the lack of a body mic can be fixed with any sub $20 laptop mic, so not really a big hassle there.

It needs to be a battery powered mic as there is no voltage available from the mic socket. It's the same on the C300 & Canon DSLRs.

Matt Davis December 15th, 2012 01:05 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Levine (Post 1768050)
to be clear, the c100 screen DOES face down, and does face forward a little bit, just barely enough i've found to be somewhat helpful for self interviews.

Sorry Darren - hoped the 'LOL' comment would show I was scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anything to be grumpy about.

Yes, I've been hovering over the 'buy it now' button of the Rode VideoMic Pro, but it's a big wobbly phallus on my little neat camera. Your point about a cheapo $20 radio shack special is well taken. However, thanks to Chad's test, I may have to invest in the Rode.

However, the fold-back reverse angle screen thing is (may I buy you a pint over this) a little tenuous? :-D One can connect up the absolutely necessary Ninja accessory recorder, and simply spin it round to the talent to show them what we're shooting.

I'd take these little inconveniences in favour of awesome run and gun ergonomics.

But I will remain ever so grumpy over losing the intervalometer - I live in hope of a new Firmware upgrade.

Joe Lawry December 23rd, 2012 06:55 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
a firmware update with a timelapse function and 1080 50/60p (this cameras shooting AVCHD after all) i'd jump into one.


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