Lumiere HD and DVHS
 

Can Lumiere HD capture DVHS from the 30k and 40k JVC decks? Can it put it back to DVHS with no problem?

These may be obvious questions, but I figured I'd ask.

Thanks,

heath

Heath,

Lumiere HD supports the DVHS 30K deck. It hasn't been tested with the 40K, but we will update our supported equipment list as soon as we do test it.

Yes it can output back to tape in DVHS without problem.

Can it capture from the 30k DVHS deck?

heath

It can capture HDV footage stored on the 30K DVHS Deck.

Lumiere HD workflow
 

I read a lot around for the HDV editing on Macs but still a few points are not clear...can somebody help me understand this.
I am planning to use a Powerbook G4 for editing with 1.33 Ghz or 1.5 Ghz processor with 1GB ram and 60gb hdd.
-Aspect Hd offers 4 video stream editing with real time...can i edit this way in lumiere with offline res of course ??
-Do I need a G-raid for the editing?
-is this 720/30p file plays smoothly on a laptop ?
-Can i monitor the edits on a broadcast SD monitor?


Thanks
Gabor

Gabor,

Lumiere HD is that it lets you edit your HDV footage in any codec you want.

Based on the system you have, I would recommend using DV in anamorphic. This will allow you to enjoy all the benefits of DV (RT, NTSC monitoring, RT FX, etc.)

You also wont need a raid solution since the only footage you play in realtime is DV.

Once your edit is complete, Lumiere HD helps you online your timeline in a few clicks and you end up with a full 720p resolution of your timeline. at which time you can fine tune color correction.

You render it to uncompressed HD or DC 30 codec and Lumiere HD will encode/multiplex this master edit to HDV compliant MPEG-2 Transport Stream with the fastest and best quality MPEG Mac encoder on the market today.

You can then output this final TS back to your camera or DVHS deck.

You can also encode your master (uncompressed HD) to progressive scan 16:9 DVD and the results are stunning!

The idea behind Lumiere HD is that you can edit HDV using all the benefits you are currently enjoying with your editing solution.

Think about it...unless you monitor your edits in full HD resolution, there is no real advantage to editing in HD in the timeline. Having said that, if you own a cinema display, you can use DVCPRO HD instead of DV and enjoy realtime HD editing/monitoring.

Discussion - FCP HD w/ G5 dual 2ghz workflow using LumiereHD
 

Hi all,

I'd like to cross reference our workflows (again!), so we can see if we're optimizing our systems.

Here is what I have and do for FCP HD editing:

Equipment:
I have G5 dual 2ghz, 1 gig of RAM, internal ATA 160 HD, external 200 gig Firewire 400, FCP HD, LumiereHD 1.0
-------------------
1) Capture footage onto external Firewire using LumiereHD

2) Create Program Stream of m2t files (demultiplex)

3) Create Timeline codec files (this is where it gets foggy and I hope I'm doing it right in reference to DVCPRO codec editing) --

I use the "DVCPRO HD 720p60" codec on "Best" quailty and have the framerate set to "29.97" frames per second. I have the source size default to "Source".

4) "Control click" Sequence in FCP to bring up settings tab - chose "Anamorphic 16:9"

5) In the current Sequence settings window I leave the "Frame Size" at 960x720 - (anyone know if I should bump this up to 1280x720? I read somewhere on here that the HD10u only records 960 anyway - is that true?!)

6) Field domiance - unknown. Anyone help me here? I am currently using "None"

7) Under the "User Preference" menu in FCP - I have "Audio Playback Quaility" set to default "Low (faster) - can I bump this up?

8) Under the "Audio/Video Settings" menu in FCP my specs read:

"Sequence preset DVCPRO HD- 720p30" -- and "Capture Preset DVCPRO HD- 720p30 48khz" --

the "Device Control Preset is DVCPRO HD FireWire" (this one I'm not sure if that needs to be FireWire NTSC or not? It's not NTSC we're working in...it's HD right?!)

The last thing is the Video and Audio playback - it says, "[Missing] for both...the Video says "DVCPRO HD (720p60) (1280x720) and the Audio says DVCPRO HD out"

9) Under "System Settings" I'm using my external FireWire drive for a scratch disk.

10) Under the "System Settings" -- "Playback Control" I'm using "RT Unlimited" and "Medium" Quailty - (can I bump that up to high?) --

oh, and the "Pulldown Pattern" is 2:3:2:3 - is that good? I think it's defaulted there.

Additional notes:
I'm using the XML feature on LumiereHD to import all the clips into FCP.

I hope people reply because I really want to know if we're optimizing our workflows. Do you see anything wrong with above workflow?? Please tell me!

Murph

4) DVCProHD is not anamorphic - it has a special pixel aspect ratio though that you'll need to set.

6) field dominance - none

Pulldown patter is irrelevent as you're editing 30p not 24p.

Hope that helps.

Graeme

Hi Graeme,

Do you know what the "special pixel aspect" is for the DVCProHD codec?

All of your information is useful, thank you!

Murph

[1) Capture footage onto external Firewire using Lumiere HD]

Version 1.1 will also allow you to input full FCP logging info.

[2) Create Program Stream of m2t files (demultiplex)]

And audio files. You want to set a different folder for audio and video. The audio folder should be on a fast drive where the m2v video doesn't have to be.

[3) Create Timeline codec files (this is where it gets foggy and I hope I'm doing it right in reference to DVCPRO codec editing) --

I use the "DVCPRO HD 720p60" codec on "Best" quailty and have the framerate set to "29.97" frames per second. I have the source size default to "Source".]

Murph, I would recommend setting the frame size to 960 X 720 in Lumiere HD's custom sixe box. Ultimately, FCP will display it the same (960 X 720) even if you choose 1280 X 720, however it has less work to do if the frame is in native DVCPRO HD resolution (960 X 720) and you might enjoy more RT benefits with layers.

[4) "Control click" Sequence in FCP to bring up settings tab - chose "Anamorphic 16:9"]

This is only if you are going to use DV as your timeline codec. In this case, the codec is already 16:9 (well, not really for DVCPRO HD but don't worry about that ;)) therefore you don't need to stretch it anymore. What I recommend to do here is go to Audio/Video Settings in your menu and set your Sequence Preset to DVCPRO HD -720p30 (before creating a sequence). After that, when you create your sequence, it will have all the settings necessary. You can then import your XML and start editing in realtime.

[5) In the current Sequence settings window I leave the "Frame Size" at 960x720 - (anyone know if I should bump this up to 1280x720? I read somewhere on here that the HD10u only records 960 anyway - is that true?!)]

Taken care of by step #4

[6) Field domiance - unknown. Anyone help me here? I am currently using "None"]

None is good, but it is taken care of by step #4

[7) Under the "User Preference" menu in FCP - I have "Audio Playback Quaility" set to default "Low (faster) - can I bump this up?]

With your specs (G5, 1 GB Ram) you could bump it up but why? Until you need to edit audio, I would leave it at Low.

[8) Under the "Audio/Video Settings" menu in FCP my specs read:

"Sequence preset DVCPRO HD- 720p30" -- and "Capture Preset DVCPRO HD- 720p30 48khz" -- ]

Do this before you create your sequence and the sequence will have all the appropriate settings.

[the "Device Control Preset is DVCPRO HD FireWire" (this one I'm not sure if that needs to be FireWire NTSC or not? It's not NTSC we're working in...it's HD right?!)]

None, unless you own the Panasonic $20K deck. Right now, you'll watch your edits in full HD resolution on your 2nd Cinema Display, or single Cinema Display. If you don't have a Cinema Display I wouldn't edit in DVCPRO HD, I would edit in DV with output to NTSC via firewire.

[The last thing is the Video and Audio playback - it says, "[Missing] for both...the Video says "DVCPRO HD (720p60) (1280x720) and the Audio says DVCPRO HD out"]

This is where you choose the Cinema Display (current or second).

[9) Under "System Settings" I'm using my external FireWire drive for a scratch disk.]

This is fine.

[10) Under the "System Settings" -- "Playback Control" I'm using "RT Unlimited" and "Medium" Quailty - (can I bump that up to high?) -- ]

Sure, try it out.

Murph, I highly recommend reading a good book on FCP or even the manual. They have great insight on preparing for editing. You will understand the reason behind each choice.

I would also recommend 2 Cinema Displays if you are going to edit in HD. Otherwise, edit in DV and don't compromise.

I hope this helps!

Frederic and everyone who posted...thanks!

I'm implementing changes now..

Murph

Questions about Lumiere Editing solution.
 

Does anyone have an idea when this software will be available?
Thanks for your time.

Friday, June 4

Morgan,

The software should be available before the weekend.

Thanks for your patience,

Lumiere HD v1.1 is now available!
 

Thank you SO MUCH for your patience.

Enjoy...we're proud of it.

:)

http://lumierehd.com/lumiere_hd.php

Morgan,

We just released the software.

You can purchase it at:

http://lumierehd.com/lumiere_hd.php

Thanks for your patience!

Lumiere HD: Product Offering, Shipping, MPEG-2 Licensing
 

A few clarifications about Lumiere HD:

- Lumiere HD is shipping and you can purchase it online today at http://lumierehd.com

- Lumiere HD includes a complete solution from capture to print to HDV/DVHS tape for $179

- Lumiere HD is in full compliance with MPEG-2 Patent Holders

To read more about these topics visit http://lumierehd.com/missinglink.php

To see Lumiere HD, LLC in the list of MPEG LA, LLC's MPEG-2 Licensees in good standing visit:
http://www.mpegla.com/mpeg2/m2_licensees.cfm

Lumiere HD Users: Share your story...
 

Lumiere HD has a new section dedicated to showcasing its users.

Read about Jim Rough's experience with Lumiere HD:

http://lumierehd.com/stories/jimrough/

If you have a story to share, email it to comments@lumierehd.com.

We want to hear about it.

Frederic

Any plans for a PC version of Lumiere
 

Any plans for a pc version of Lumiere (you know for premiere, vegas, ulead, etc.)

Dwight,

We aren't planning on developing for the PC platform.

I highly recommend Cineform's products for the PC.

Frederic

Lumiere HD question
 

I captured/processed/XML'd a bunch of clips (50) for a project I'm beginning. After I started cutting, I found another 2 clips I weanted to add to the browser, so I used LumiereHD, and captured/processed again -- It then asked if for a XML name again. Seems like this may be a problem?

How can I ADD clips (by recapturing) to a existing project W/O messing up any of the end processes?

Thanks,

Steven

I think LumiereHD will generate a second XML for you, you can then import both XML's into FCP, and combine the files into one project. I'd ask Frederic for certain though...

Graeme

You are correct Graeme.

Afterall, you programmed it.. :)

Lumiere HD Future Development
 

Lumiere HD plans on continuing development even after Apple releases FCP 5.0 (Should it include HDV support) for the following reasons:

- Many users do not have the basic system requirements expected to run FCP 5.0

- Some might prefer to wait before upgrading to 5.0

- New formats are on the horizon which Lumiere HD will support before FCP does

- Lumiere HD will still be a viable ingest and encoding tool for Mac users who do not use FCP HD (AE, Motion, etc...)

Frederic

Lumiere HD reviewed in Film & Video Magazine
 

You can read a comprehensive review of the HD10U, Cineform and Lumiere HD in this month's issue of Film & Video Magazine.

Here's the online version of the article:

http://www.filmandvideomagazine.com/...e.jsp?id=28048

Frederic,

I got the article in the mail. Its worth saying that Lumiere HD has filled a huge void in FCP editing. I'm definately a fan and there are many others too.

I'm looking forward to Lumiere HD's upgrades (and future products???).

If you have a Mac and own a HDV camera - do yourself a favor and get Lumiere HD. Don't bother with the crappy, clunky alternatives that will frustrate you to no end and cost you! I've been there and done that....

Murph

For PC users, this is a good article, after all the CineForm quote is priceless :)

David,

I thought that was cute. ;)

Frederic

Lumiere HD version 1.2 now available!
 

Lumiere HD version 1.2 is now available via the "Check for updates" feature in the Lumiere HD menu option.

This is a free update to owners of Lumiere HD.

How to update Lumiere HD
 

We've received many emails on "How to update?" Lumiere HD.

It's very simple. Choose "Check for Updates" from the Lumiere HD menu option within the application.

Frederic

1080 60i output with LumiereHD
 

Aloha,

Can LumiereHD out 1080 60i to a JVC SR-VD400US DVHS deck?

What is the best way to create a 1080 60i Mpeg2 TS file from 1080 24p 10bit uncompressed Quicktime?

I am helping with a project that is in a film festival and we are looking for alternatives to outputting to BetaSP and projecting on a huge screen with a terrible projector. We want to rent our own Projector and are thinking about the best playback format to use. We might be able to get a Panasonic AJ-HD1200A, but we are looking at alternatives, just in case.


Thanks,
Dusty

Dave Cox was able to export from Pixlet to 1080i using HDVerter
(do a search on this forum). I've heard great things about lumiere however, so if this is able to do 1080i I would suggest trying that instead.

Dustin,

The next version of Lumiere HD will allow you to output 1080i TS to DVHS decks and the new Sony FX1.

I think the DVHS approach with a good HD resolution projector is a great way to show your film.

Best,

Frederic

I'd advise not to use Pixlet as a codec choice. PhotoJPEG100% is a more efficient and better looking codec, that uses less processor too, and is 4:4:4.

Graeme

Dustin,

The next version of Lumiere HD should also support the VC SR-VD400US DVHS deck.

Mahalo Nui Loa

Frederic

Sony HDV support now available in Lumiere HD
 

A beta of Lumiere HD with support for the Sony HDV cameras was just released and is available to all Lumiere HD customers.

This new version also supports SD HDV mode in the JVC cameras and the GR-PD1 sold in Europe.

It does not allow for output back to the Sony HDV devices yet.

Lumiere HD includes:

• Capture from following HDV devices:

- JVC JY-HD10U (720p30, HDV SD)
- JVC GR-HD1 (720p30, HDV SD)
- JVC GR-PD1 (HDV SD50p)
- JVC CU-VH1(720p30, HDV SD)
- SONY HDR-FX1(1080i60)
- SONY HDR-FX1(E) (1080i50)
- SONY HVR-Z1 (1080i/60/50)

• Converts the captured HDV clips into QuickTime friendly HD MPEG-2 video format (online), via batch processing

• Offers editors their codec of choice (DV, DVCPRO HD, etc.) to edit in Final Cut Pro's timeline, with all of the real-time benefits -- such as transitions, FX, and composites, without rendering. Also provides real-time playing and NTSC monitoring in DV.

• Automates the complete migration of captured HDV footage into Final Cut Pro, including:

- Generating XML File
- Importing clips
- Anamorphic (16:9) setting
- Merging of audio & video
- Online process optimization

• Encodes HD output from Final Cut Pro into HDV MPEG-2 Transport Stream and transfers back to HDV cameras and decks. This step (HDV Print to Tape) is not yet supported for the Sony HDV cameras.

Lumiere HD Beta version 1.5b6 now available!Beta version 1.5b6 now available!
 

I noticed on the Lumiere HD Site that Lumiere HD Beta version 1.5b6 is now available! Which includes support for SONY HDR-FX1
CHEERS,
Andy

www.lumierehd.com

I'm gonna test it soon, Frederic! Just busy!

heath

Frederic,

Can your product encode 1080i content that was captured from HDCAM uncompressed and output a regulart Transport Stream to disk for broadcast use? Also, does the Beta release support the output to the JVC HMDH40000U and or the JVC SR-VD400US. If so can it output 1080i?
Have client that needs this by tuesday.

Dave Cox

... Lumière vs mpeg streamclip
 

I was experiencing wierd artefacts in transfering from mpegstreamclip. Like dv drops but worse >(hdv drops!)
I looked and looked for other demuxing solutions for the mac.
Finally I bought lumière. And everything seems to run smoothly regardless of enormous transfering time - at least the artefacts are not on my images anymore.
This is footage from the HDR-FX1 usa. (1080i 60i)
I hate the fact that apple will come out with an upgrade for fcphd and lumière will soon be outdated... but my projects are due yesterday, so I had no alternatives. At least none that I could find.

- dOM

<<<-- Originally posted by Dave Cox : Frederic,

Can your product encode 1080i content that was captured from HDCAM uncompressed and output a regulart Transport Stream to disk for broadcast use? Also, does the Beta release support the output to the JVC HMDH40000U and or the JVC SR-VD400US. If so can it output 1080i?
Have client that needs this by tuesday.

Dave Cox -->>>

Dave,

Yes, Lumiere HD does encode 1080i TS 25 Mbps. It doesn't officially support the 40K decks however but compatibility with these decks will come very soon.

Frederic