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DVSHOOTER January 5th, 2002 11:36 AM

What else would you expect for 2,000 bucks on a XL1?Panavision lens?


Cheers!

VictorKB January 6th, 2002 08:51 PM

FS: Canon XL1S Digital Video Camera and Setup
 
I'm selling a Canon XL1S NTSC Digital Video Camera along with a number of accessories as a package. The total contents of the package includes:

Canon XL1S NTSC Digitial Video Camera
Canon FS-72U Filter Set
(Neutral Density (ND8))
(Polarizing)
(Ultra-Violet)
Canon BP-930 Lithium-Ion Battery Pack
TDK DVM60 Digital Tapes
Azden WLX-PRO VHF Wireless Lavaliere Microphone
Bogen 501 Fluid Video Tripod Head
Bogen/Manfotto 3236 Tripod (Black Anodized)

The package was used for approximatly two months and is in excellent condition. For more detailed information, pricing, and high resolution pictures of all of the equipment, go to http://www.liquidpixel.net/canon

Thanks
Victor

Gayle Bryan January 6th, 2002 11:55 PM

Sony VX2000
 
Have you sold this system yet? Is there a monitor for the MAC?

Michael Pappas January 12th, 2002 07:30 PM

Brand new Canon GL1 for sale on Ebay
 
I am selling a brand new Canon GL1 that I only bought a few weeks ago. The reason for selling is the production I am going to be working on has decided to shoot with different cameras. So it's brand new still in it's box.

Here is the ebay link!

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1321501498

PS: It's being sold through a friends ebay account since he is a avid e-bayer and I'm not.


Michael Pappas
Arrvial Entertainment
Arrfilms@hotmail.com

Gayle Bryan January 13th, 2002 12:48 AM

Canon GL1
 
Was getting ready to buy your GL1 on ebay when my server went down. I knew it would go quickly at that price. Let me know if your sale does not work out.

Gayle

Steve Kim January 22nd, 2002 09:04 AM

Shoulder Brace
 
Please email me the picture and price to widsk1@hotmail.com

Rob Lohman January 22nd, 2002 09:43 AM

I am interested in receiving price and pictures
as well! My e-mail address is below in my
signature!

Thanks!

John Locke January 22nd, 2002 12:21 PM

November?!
 
Did anyone ever get pics? DVShooter, if you have a chance, please send them to john@zchildress.com.

Chris, is there anyway to enable the e-mail function?

Chris Hurd January 22nd, 2002 12:50 PM

Re: email, see my post in the Announcements section.

I would caution everybody to proceed with care regarding this type of business with someone who does not post their name or location. Also, this particular forum is for private sale of individual items only. This individual says he has "a number on hand" which leads me to believe that they're some kind of dealer or distributor, and due to the high frequency of disreputable outfits in this business, all dealers or distributors *must* go through me before they can use my site.

So I would like an e-mail and pics from the seller as well, with full disclosure of their real name, location and nature of business. In the meantime, buyer beware. I'm tempted to remove the post and if the seller does not contact me within the next 48 hours, I will do so without apology or delay. Thanks,

John Locke January 22nd, 2002 01:06 PM

Papa Bear Chris,

Looking out for us. Don't know about the others but I'm one who needs looking after.

I'm one of those people who actually ordered "Sea Monkeys"...not once, but twice...and also ordered a "Pet Rock" back when that was the craze.

DVSHOOTER January 23rd, 2002 02:47 PM

Dear Chris,


I'm not a dealer of any sort.The reason I had a hand of those shoulder braces is because I wanted to built one for my XL1 since the good ones out there are too expensive.When I designed my brace and went to a company in order o they build some of the parts in turned out that the price would be teh same to build one of each part or 10 of them.Given that I got the 10 parts and so i got 9 left overs and i thought I would sell it since I didn't need more than one shoulder brace.Right now I already sold all of them.I actually sold 6 of them.the other 3 I ruined trying to come up with other things.Thanks for all the replies.



Bart

Guest January 24th, 2002 09:21 PM

Email me - if you still have the gear for sale

Aaron Frick January 26th, 2002 11:32 PM

FS: Sony PVM 8040 8" Color Monitor
 
Sony PVM 8040 8" Color Production Monitor. Low hours. Composite and S-video inputs. List Price is $700, I am asking only $400. Includes monitor and power cord, no box.
aaronfrick@hotmail.com

blake edwards January 30th, 2002 01:59 PM

possible trade?
 
would you consider tradeing for a LCD xvga orjector? worth 2000.00?

im open for ideas on a trade...

DIGIXLDV January 30th, 2002 07:49 PM

Oh?No precocious statements about my legitimacy now?

DIGIXLDV January 30th, 2002 07:52 PM

Just joking DVSHOTTER!
You really need to be carefull on this forums but I think sometimes people just get too scared.If you don't think someone is not legitimate just don't buy from him.A post won't obrigate you to buy anything.I'm glad you sold them all.Any plans to build more?Let me know.

dmorgan99usa February 2nd, 2002 02:02 PM

Looking for a MA-100 "Used"
 
Hi

I'm Looking for a Used MA-100, if anyone has one for sale I would be intrested, please respond to dmorgan99usa@netscape.net.

Thanks
Dennis

dmorgan99usa February 4th, 2002 12:34 PM

Reseller rating
 
I found this website is sort of a report card on electronics dealers out there. It's a scary world if you dont know who to buy from.

http://www.resellerratings.com/index.html

Good Luck

Chris Hurd February 4th, 2002 04:06 PM

It definitely *is* a scary world; that's why I created my Sponsors page. You can't go wrong with the advertisers on my site... I accept only the best. I figured I owed you guys at least that much.

upstartfilmworks February 4th, 2002 11:24 PM

XL 1 Auction - Patrick Norton or Rubin
 
Has anyone here dealt with a 'Patrick Norton' or 'Patrick Rubin' concerning an auction or classified for an XL 1 camcorder?

dialisproductions February 5th, 2002 04:11 AM

Canon XL-1 NTSC for sale
 
Manfrotto 501/351 tripod
Canon XL-1 with MA-100
Canon 930 Battery Pack
Portabrace Soft case
Isolater
windscreen for mic
60 hours of use
great condition
$4000.00 US OBO
shipping extra
E-mail for more info:
dmp@dialis.com

Chris Hurd February 5th, 2002 09:51 AM

What seems to be the problem?

upstartfilmworks February 5th, 2002 10:25 AM

I was the victim of a fradulent transaction (long story short: XL 1 at great price, I sent him the money, he sent me nothing, more fool I), and was wondering if anyone else around might have also gotten burned by this guy.

On another, lighter note, great forum Chris. I'm a videographer/filmmaker located in Houston.

FlipC_WC February 5th, 2002 12:30 PM

I give you 2200 for it.

Gayle Bryan February 5th, 2002 04:27 PM

I'm interested in the tripod if you decide to break it up.

Barbara Lowry February 6th, 2002 04:54 PM

See www.mtcfilms.com for used MA-100 - Just noticed that he has a posting here under black and white viewfinder subject line stating that he has an MA-100 for sale.

Good Luck!

dmorgan99usa February 6th, 2002 07:51 PM

Thank you
 
I will check with those folks about the MA-100 thanks so much...

Dennis

Frank000 February 8th, 2002 08:19 PM

WIDE ANGLE 0.6X for XL1/S GL1 etc.
 
Convertidores gan angulares para CANON XL1, XL1S. GL1, XM1, JVC DV500 y otras cámaras ( diametro 72 mm y 58 mm )
EXCELENTES !!
Opticas de gran calidad.
U$S 240 cada uno ( consulte precios por cantidad )
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Enviamos a todo el mundo, via Western Union
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TristanS March 4th, 2002 01:29 PM

camera still for sale?
 
Just wondering wether your XL1s is still for sale. I'm interested if it is. The site you gave is under construction so I couln't find any relevant info. Please e-mail me if @ all possible. Thanks

tristanshouldice@hotmail.com

Nori Wentworth March 7th, 2002 11:44 AM

Wanted: followfocus?
 
I am seeking the following package: camera plate with rods with followfocus wheels (for 14x lens).

Not too sure of all the technical names of all of these items, If anyone can direct me towards a rental house or even a store that might sell these I would be much appreciative.
Even new versions of the above are an option for me.

Thanks - Nori Wentworth

Ken Tanaka March 7th, 2002 12:45 PM

Nori,
Chris has some vendor references and photos on the Watchdog site. (www.dvinfo.net) Click on the "Image Gallery" to see the CineTech rig.

Warning: Pricing on this gear is, ahem, heroic. The XL1 becomes the accessory <g>.

John Locke March 7th, 2002 01:10 PM

<<The XL1 becomes the accessory>>

Wow, Ken! That says it all. I'm constantly amazed at how some of the "accessories" for DV are still in the "designed-for-film-when-only-the-rich-could-do-it" category. I mean...come on...$5,000+ for a Steadicam? They've been selling long enough, and have increased their sales over the years enough, to precipitate a drop in prices.

Anyone out there in the accessory manufacturing biz? Come up with a line of top quality accessories priced proportionally to the new DV camcorders...then sweep the market!

Nori Wentworth March 7th, 2002 01:21 PM

Ken you hit the nail right on the head.

Indeed perhaps I should have phrased the question as:
I am seeking the following package: "AFFORDABLE" camera plate with rods with followfocus wheels (for 14x lens). I have been over the Watchdog site a million times and I have visited all of the links, I was hoping someone might be able to direct me somewhere I haven't been able to find.

Two metal rods, a slab of metal with some grooves in it and a piece of plastic with gears should not be this expensive!

Maybe someone is really handy and could make me one, or go into mass production- You'll make a mint!

Ken Tanaka March 7th, 2002 02:03 PM

< VENT WARNING >
 
I certainly agree with y'all that these film-style accessories are absolutely outrageously priced. I really don't think the manufacturers are making much margin from them, although many of these folks are building this junk in their basements. Folks like Chrosiel who have been making film accessories for many years have clearly priced their gear for the rental market. Certainly, you can't blame them for trying.

But, dammit, if Canon wants to be in the "nuveau film" business it had better get its MBA's beavering away with their little Excel spreadsheets to build a more supportive product line of whole-brained professional accesories for their cams. I mean, c'mon, Canon splashes Soderberg's homely mug across a 2-page add in this month's Videography to crow about how wonderful Canon's cams are...but you'll note that Sir Steve has nary an accessory on his cams. Why? Probably because he can't find the damn things without going to the Eastern European black market.

Canon can't build a decent matte box for its own lenses?
Canon can't build a precision follow-focus rig for its own lenses?
Canon can't build a 35mm adapter for its XL1s?
Canon can't even build a relatively quiet mic mount for the XL1s?

Certainly they could.

< END OF VENT >

John Locke March 7th, 2002 06:27 PM

Singed my eyebrows while reading that one, Ken...well said.

Canon...if you're perusing this board...listen to the man. Listen to the market. You'll be glad you did.

Charles Papert March 7th, 2002 07:03 PM

All good points, gents.

There's no question that some of this gear is just basic design and manufacturing, such as the bridge plate and rods that a few companies make. If you went to a machinist and asked him to copy it, he could probably do it for about half the money--maybe--if you include anodizing, maybe 2/3 the price...and then there's your own time going back and forth to the machinist when something doesn't fit just right, etc. I've done it plenty of times over the years, and sometimes it's just not worth it!

And with follow focus, it's a bit more sophisticated than it looks. Getting a nice smooth feel on the knob requires some tight tolerances and top-notch design. On my last show I couldn't get my Chrosziel on rental because my assistant prefers the feel of the Arri unit, oh well! Sure, for the XL1 there's room for error and a lower-priced version should be developed, I agree. But given enough play/slop that would be inherent in such a version, it may end up being better just pulling from the lens itself.

It would be nice if Canon got involved and mass-marketed this stuff, but my sense is that they probably are content with selling a zillion cameras rather than a few hundred gizmos, and letting someone else make and sell the gizmos. And who's to say they would actually make them affordable--case in point, the black-and-white viewfinder which is quite lovely but nearly half the cost of the camera itself?

Adi Khindaria March 11th, 2002 06:52 PM

Looking for an XL1s
 
with LCD, wide angle and a filter set (and anything else that you might have). Wanted to see if someone here is planning on selling their package. Otherwise I will go and buy retail or try ebay.

Ken Tanaka March 11th, 2002 10:31 PM

If you try to get your XL1s gear on eBay -please- be very, very careful. There has been a rash of less-than-honest XL1s sellers over there during the past 6-8 months. At least one scam had someone basically offering the cams, taking prepayment and then never delivering the goods. I was nearly scammed by a (fortunately) honest but stupid kid with a stellar eBay rating history who (I learned later) thought he could buy the camera in Canada and sell it on eBay for a profit.

I really recommend going to a good, reputable dealer such as ZGC (one of our sponsors here) or B&H. You'll see that the legit eBay auctions really don't settle for much (if any) lower prices than you'll get at ZGC. If you really want the thrill of the eBay auction game only buy new equipment from a Canon dealer. Zotz Digital is a frequent XL1s seller over there and they can be trusted. (I bought my first XL1 from Brian at Zotz...he's a good guy.)

Good luck.

Adi Khindaria March 12th, 2002 01:23 AM

Thank you
 
Thank you for your advice.

I really appreciate it.

Digital Dan March 13th, 2002 12:57 PM

How much do you want for it? I am interested.


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