EX1R and PMW350 First Details

Colin Rowe · November 2nd, 2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick DeBari

Thanks for the info folks!

I was aware that people had tried SxS work-arounds using SxS/SD card readers but I wasn't aware there were specific models that were tested specifically for the EX1R. This now makes me less afraid of going with the EX1R as the media costs scared me.

Thanks,
Rick

Sony are going to release their own "Memory Stick" adaptor, and less expensive SxS cards for use with the EX1r, check it out here. Sony : XDCAM EX, PMW-350, PMW-EX1R Reviewed : Other

Adam Stanislav · November 2nd, 2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry J. Weckesser

I have found this unit with the telescoping arm and using a belt support very comfortable to use for extended periods. It takes all the weight off your hands. Shape WLB - SPIDER II camera support - SP2200 and the belt is here :Shape WLB - The list of our products

Argh! I tried to buy it. It sent me to paypal, which rejected my debit card. I tried three times. Each time paypal claimed my card was rejected. But my bank emailed me that paypal charged it for 0,65 Euro three times and then credited it right back.

I wish companies like this did not use paypal but just accepted credit and debit cards.

Charles Vallieres · November 3rd, 2009, 08:33 AM

Hello,

I'm sending you a picture where you can see one hand resting on the handle and the other hand directly on the camera. The camera support on the picture is an older model with only one handle. But the point remain the same, it's possible to have both hands on the camera.

Charles

Adam Stanislav · November 3rd, 2009, 11:09 AM

Thank you, Charles. That looks good.

Barry J. Weckesser · November 3rd, 2009, 04:45 PM

Adam - in answer to your previous question about how I focus and also to elaborate on Charles' picture that he posted: With the telescoping arm, all the weight of the camera is transfered to the shoulder support and wherever the arm rests so you do not need a strong grip on the handles at all. I have a Manfrotto remote mounted on the right handle like so: Shape WLB community/barry-j-weckesser-sept-2009-006 and Shape WLB community/barry-j-weckesser-sept-2009-005 so I can zoom and press the record button without touching the camera and on the left side I position the handle straight up, cup it in my left palm and use my first or second finger to reach over and focus - it is very comfortable to do this and you can get some great pan and zoom shots being able to hold the camera well stabilized.

Adam Stanislav · November 3rd, 2009, 09:06 PM

Thanks, Barry, I am going to order that Manfrotto controller as soon as I post this message (I have so much more to learn about this new camera of mine, it is embarrassing!). Meanwhile the Shape people have assured me they are looking into alternatives to PayPal, which claims it could not verify my VISA card despite them charging me $1 on it successfully and then reversing the charge.

Adam Stanislav · November 9th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Well, I have ordered the Manfrotto controller and it has arrived. Apparently it only works with the EX1 because I sure cannot plug it into my EX3. :)

Edit: Never mind. I was trying to plug it to the remote at the back to the camera. A call to B&H later and I plugged it to the lens remote, and that works. :)

Ola Christoffersson · November 10th, 2009, 03:10 AM

This thread has been hijacked! Can somebody please put it straight? I'd like to discuss the new EX1R and 350.

Chris?

Garrett Low · November 10th, 2009, 03:42 AM

Does anyone know if Sony is planning on coming out with an EX3R soon? I am planning on getting an EX3 soon but I would hate to buy one and then find that they come out with an EX3R soon after.

Thanks,
Garrett

Sorry Ola, not quite an EX1R or 350 question but at least it may get some discussion about the features of the EX1R going again.

Alister Chapman · November 10th, 2009, 07:45 AM

I was told that there are no plans for an EX3R at this time.

Andy Wilkinson · November 10th, 2009, 08:34 AM

Garrett, if you need it, just go for it, allowing enough time to get fully familiar/skilled with it before anything important needs shooting. The EX3 is a great cam - you'd have to chop my arms off to get mine! If an EX3R comes out next year (I know nothing - but it would seem a totally logical step) then the original EX3 (-R) will still be a great cam!...nothing will change that even if it won't have orange backed switches and (perhaps more importantly) better IR handling.

There is always another slightly better upgrade coming in technology - we've all been there with this. It's the price you pay for being at the leading edge - or as most prefer to call it the bleeding edge ( = as in the injury inflicted on your wallet I think!). I tend to try and buy early in a product cycle (as I did with my EX3 and as I've just done with a Canon 7D) but that's not always the best route as mid/late cycle you tend to get a product which has had the little gremlins ironed out with minor redesigns, firmware fixes and quality control issues etc. that you might not even have been aware of within the product but which improve it's reliability/performance to design specifications enormously (I come from a scientific / hi tech manufacturing background in a former career spanning 20 years - albeit not in cameras but I think I know a little about this - you'll just have to trust me on that one!).

OK, maybe this thread really should return to EX1R and 350 discussion now!

Garrett Low · November 10th, 2009, 08:47 AM

Thanks Allister and Andy, I agree that I need time to familiarize myself with the camera and all of its features. I've also got to experiment with workflow. So, I see an EX3 in my near future.

Thanks, and now back to the EX1R and 350.

Now, if I had the means I think I'd go for the 350. But that's another dream.

Garrett

Paul Inglis · November 10th, 2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

I was aware that people had tried SxS work-arounds using SxS/SD card readers but I wasn't aware there were specific models that were tested specifically for the EX1R. This now makes me less afraid of going with the EX1R as the media costs scared me.

I wrote a blog post the other day mentioning most the current and soon to be released XDCAM EX media. You can read at Alternative Media for the Sony PMW-EX1 and the PMW-EX3

As I have an PMW-EX3 the new PMW-350 with larger 2/3" chips on a full shoulder mount cam looks the biz. Glad I held off purchasing the PDW-700. Mind you it's still a very nice cam.

Chris Hurd · November 10th, 2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ola Christoffersson

This thread has been hijacked! I'd like to discuss the new EX1R and 350. Chris?

The proper way to handle this is to use the Report Post system. It's the little "!" icon to the left of every post. I can peel away the posts which don't belong here and move them into a separate thread of their own if you'll please report the first one and the last one of the off-topic tangent. Thanks in advance,

Adam Stanislav · November 11th, 2009, 10:29 PM

Createasphere - The New Sony PMW-EX1R - Playback - a video from HDExpo.

November 3rd, 2009, 08:33 AM	#33
Charles Vallieres Tourist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 3	Hello, I'm sending you a picture where you can see one hand resting on the handle and the other hand directly on the camera. The camera support on the picture is an older model with only one handle. But the point remain the same, it's possible to have both hands on the camera. Charles Attached Thumbnails

November 10th, 2009, 03:10 AM	#38
Ola Christoffersson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 462	This thread has been hijacked! Can somebody please put it straight? I'd like to discuss the new EX1R and 350. Chris? __________________ Ola Christoffersson, Kamrat produktion, Stockholm - Sweden www.kamrat.tv

November 10th, 2009, 07:45 AM	#40
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	I was told that there are no plans for an EX3R at this time. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

November 10th, 2009, 08:34 AM	#41
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Garrett, if you need it, just go for it, allowing enough time to get fully familiar/skilled with it before anything important needs shooting. The EX3 is a great cam - you'd have to chop my arms off to get mine! If an EX3R comes out next year (I know nothing - but it would seem a totally logical step) then the original EX3 (-R) will still be a great cam!...nothing will change that even if it won't have orange backed switches and (perhaps more importantly) better IR handling. There is always another slightly better upgrade coming in technology - we've all been there with this. It's the price you pay for being at the leading edge - or as most prefer to call it the bleeding edge ( = as in the injury inflicted on your wallet I think!). I tend to try and buy early in a product cycle (as I did with my EX3 and as I've just done with a Canon 7D) but that's not always the best route as mid/late cycle you tend to get a product which has had the little gremlins ironed out with minor redesigns, firmware fixes and quality control issues etc. that you might not even have been aware of within the product but which improve it's reliability/performance to design specifications enormously (I come from a scientific / hi tech manufacturing background in a former career spanning 20 years - albeit not in cameras but I think I know a little about this - you'll just have to trust me on that one!). OK, maybe this thread really should return to EX1R and 350 discussion now! __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

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November 3rd, 2009, 11:09 AM	#34
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Thank you, Charles. That looks good.

November 3rd, 2009, 04:45 PM	#35
Barry J. Weckesser Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 427	Adam - in answer to your previous question about how I focus and also to elaborate on Charles' picture that he posted: With the telescoping arm, all the weight of the camera is transfered to the shoulder support and wherever the arm rests so you do not need a strong grip on the handles at all. I have a Manfrotto remote mounted on the right handle like so: Shape WLB community/barry-j-weckesser-sept-2009-006 and Shape WLB community/barry-j-weckesser-sept-2009-005 so I can zoom and press the record button without touching the camera and on the left side I position the handle straight up, cup it in my left palm and use my first or second finger to reach over and focus - it is very comfortable to do this and you can get some great pan and zoom shots being able to hold the camera well stabilized.

November 3rd, 2009, 09:06 PM	#36
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Thanks, Barry, I am going to order that Manfrotto controller as soon as I post this message (I have so much more to learn about this new camera of mine, it is embarrassing!). Meanwhile the Shape people have assured me they are looking into alternatives to PayPal, which claims it could not verify my VISA card despite them charging me $1 on it successfully and then reversing the charge.

November 9th, 2009, 11:43 AM	#37
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Well, I have ordered the Manfrotto controller and it has arrived. Apparently it only works with the EX1 because I sure cannot plug it into my EX3. :) Edit: Never mind. I was trying to plug it to the remote at the back to the camera. A call to B&H later and I plugged it to the lens remote, and that works. :)

November 10th, 2009, 03:42 AM	#39
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Does anyone know if Sony is planning on coming out with an EX3R soon? I am planning on getting an EX3 soon but I would hate to buy one and then find that they come out with an EX3R soon after. Thanks, Garrett Sorry Ola, not quite an EX1R or 350 question but at least it may get some discussion about the features of the EX1R going again.

November 10th, 2009, 08:47 AM	#42
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Thanks Allister and Andy, I agree that I need time to familiarize myself with the camera and all of its features. I've also got to experiment with workflow. So, I see an EX3 in my near future. Thanks, and now back to the EX1R and 350. Now, if I had the means I think I'd go for the 350. But that's another dream. Garrett

November 11th, 2009, 10:29 PM	#45
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Createasphere - The New Sony PMW-EX1R - Playback - a video from HDExpo.