Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Tom Cooper · April 19th, 2004, 03:48 AM

Just downloaded the trial version, and my first test was rendering speed.

I've got a dual-Xeon machine. In old Vegas 4, rendering gets to about 30% processor utilization max.

Rendering to Mainconcept MPEG with no filters, Vegas 5 gets 70% processor utilization, spread evenly across the kernels. Yee-haw!

Add Brightness and Contrast filter, still 70%

Add Color Curves with slight "S" shape, utilization drops to 60%. Still awesome!

The new "Chroma Blur" filter isn't quite as good. The higher the blur settings, the lower the processor usage. But at least they added this filter. :)

Gaussian Blur apparently isn't threaded at all. The tiniest amount of blur in only one direction drops processor usage back down to Vegas 4 levels. But the new Chroma Blur filter might replace Gaussian Blur for my uses anyway.

I plan to play more after a decent night's sleep. So far, I'm quite pleased.

Vegas 5 also still supports Vegas 4 plugins. In particular, DebugMode's PluginPac Adapter works, so we can still use VirtualDub plugins. This also makes me happy. :)

Edward Troxel · April 19th, 2004, 05:10 AM

Yes, rendering speeds have definitely improved in Vegas 5.

Edward Troxel · April 19th, 2004, 08:30 AM

Quote:

7 Velocity envelopes. Another feature that can get tricky. Let me get this straight- it's IMPOSSIBLE to "reverse" a clip that is cut.

A NEW feature in Vegas 5 - Right-click any event, choose Reverse - and you're done. So, now you can cut as normal and simply reverse the clip

(wish I could have told you that last week!)

Glen Elliott · April 19th, 2004, 08:42 AM

LoL...I knew you'd come around. Little easier to breathe now that that gag is out of your mouth- huh? ;)

So who's going to jump on a V5 training DVD first? Have you or Gary considered this?

Coming Soon: My Vegas 5 questions post! :)

Glen Elliott · April 19th, 2004, 08:45 AM

Now that Vegas 5 is out and touts some incredible new features....I wonder how the mass is going to compare it to Premiere Pro now?! Heck, how about FCP vs V5...NOW! :)

Glen Elliott · April 19th, 2004, 08:49 AM

Definitly going for the upgrade ASAP, just not sure if I want the downloaded version or the boxed version. Well...I actually WANT the boxed version but don't know if I have the patience.

Anyway how will the upgrade (Vegas+DVD) install? Will it find my old version of V4 and DVDA1.0 and, well...UPGRADE them. Or will they be a completly new install. I ask because when I installed Sound Forge 7 it installed as a completly new program- I then had Version 6 AND 7 on my system.

Thanks in advance.

Edward Troxel · April 19th, 2004, 09:29 AM

I believe Spot will probably have the first one.

Edward Troxel · April 19th, 2004, 09:37 AM

Your best bet is to download the 5.0a version of Vegas and the 2.0 version of DVD Architect (whether or not you buy the boxed version). The box version will contain 5.0 instead of 5.0a.

In fact, I would recommend not buying the boxed version as you can get everything from downloading anyway. The only exception is a printed keyboard shortcut card and a "getting started" manual.

When you install, simply enter your serial number and then do the secondary registration - same as you did with Vegas 4.

Vegas 5 does not care if Vegas 4 is on your system or not. In fact, you can have BOTH on your system and both will continue to function normally. (in fact, I have Vegas 4, Vegas 4, DVDA 1, and DVDA 2 all installed and functional right now on the same computer).

Joe Carney · April 19th, 2004, 09:52 AM

Charlie White has a review posted over
at digitalproducer.com, front page

Joe Carney · April 19th, 2004, 09:59 AM

In Charlie Whites' review there is a very pleasant surprise he talks about....
upcoming support for BlackMagic Designs Decklink series of SDI boards. Apparently they've been testing them at the Madison HQ, but they are not quite ready for release.

Hooray!!!!!. Instead of me going into detail, read the review...

Edward Troxel · April 19th, 2004, 10:01 AM

Here's the link:

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/a...e.jsp?id=25081

You can also read my first looks in the Vegas Tips, Tricks, and Scripts Newsletter:

http://www.jetdv.com/tts

Edward Troxel · April 19th, 2004, 10:04 AM

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...gory.asp?id=10

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Upgrade Vegas 5 to Vegas+DVD Production Suite.

Upgrade Vegas LE to Vegas 5 – from $399.95
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Upgrade any version of Vegas Audio LE or Vegas Video LE to Vegas+DVD.

Upgrade Vegas to Vegas 5 – from $199.95
Upgrade Vegas Pro, Vegas Audio, or Vegas Video, or Vegas 4.0 to Vegas 5.

Upgrade Vegas to Vegas+DVD – from $299.95
Upgrade Vegas Pro, Vegas Audio, Vegas Video, or Vegas 4.0 to Vegas+DVD.

Upgrade Vegas+DVD to Vegas+DVD – from $249.95
Upgrade Vegas+DVD (Vegas 4 and DVD Architect 1) to Vegas+DVD (Vegas 5 and DVD Architect 2).

Glen Elliott · April 19th, 2004, 10:06 AM

Yeah that's exactly what I did when I got the boxed version of Vegas+DVD, rather than installing it from the disc I went and downloaded 4.0c and only used the serial from the instruction guides to install them.

How about if I DO want the printed manuals for V5 and DVDA2? Can they be purchased?

Edward Troxel · April 19th, 2004, 10:08 AM

The manuals in the box are just "startup guides". The real manual is in PDF format on the CD/download. You have to print your own manual. Same was true with Vegas 4.

Glen Elliott · April 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM

Hmm, now that you mention it- I DO remember it being called the quick start guide. Thanks- I'll be ordering the downloadable Vegas+DVD tonight!

April 19th, 2004, 03:48 AM	#1306
Tom Cooper Tourist Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2	Multi-processor support is improved in Vegas 5.0 Just downloaded the trial version, and my first test was rendering speed. I've got a dual-Xeon machine. In old Vegas 4, rendering gets to about 30% processor utilization max. Rendering to Mainconcept MPEG with no filters, Vegas 5 gets 70% processor utilization, spread evenly across the kernels. Yee-haw! Add Brightness and Contrast filter, still 70% Add Color Curves with slight "S" shape, utilization drops to 60%. Still awesome! The new "Chroma Blur" filter isn't quite as good. The higher the blur settings, the lower the processor usage. But at least they added this filter. :) Gaussian Blur apparently isn't threaded at all. The tiniest amount of blur in only one direction drops processor usage back down to Vegas 4 levels. But the new Chroma Blur filter might replace Gaussian Blur for my uses anyway. I plan to play more after a decent night's sleep. So far, I'm quite pleased. Vegas 5 also still supports Vegas 4 plugins. In particular, DebugMode's PluginPac Adapter works, so we can still use VirtualDub plugins. This also makes me happy. :)

April 19th, 2004, 08:45 AM	#1310
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	All is good in the land of Vegas Now that Vegas 5 is out and touts some incredible new features....I wonder how the mass is going to compare it to Premiere Pro now?! Heck, how about FCP vs V5...NOW! :)

April 19th, 2004, 08:49 AM	#1311
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Question regarding upgrading/installation Definitly going for the upgrade ASAP, just not sure if I want the downloaded version or the boxed version. Well...I actually WANT the boxed version but don't know if I have the patience. Anyway how will the upgrade (Vegas+DVD) install? Will it find my old version of V4 and DVDA1.0 and, well...UPGRADE them. Or will they be a completly new install. I ask because when I installed Sound Forge 7 it installed as a completly new program- I then had Version 6 AND 7 on my system. Thanks in advance.

April 19th, 2004, 09:59 AM	#1315
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Read the review over at digitalproducer In Charlie Whites' review there is a very pleasant surprise he talks about.... upcoming support for BlackMagic Designs Decklink series of SDI boards. Apparently they've been testing them at the Madison HQ, but they are not quite ready for release. Hooray!!!!!. Instead of me going into detail, read the review...

April 19th, 2004, 10:04 AM	#1317
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas 5 Upgrade Information http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...gory.asp?id=10 Upgrade Vegas 5 to Vegas+DVD – from $299.95 Upgrade Vegas 5 to Vegas+DVD Production Suite. Upgrade Vegas LE to Vegas 5 – from $399.95 Upgrade any version of Vegas Audio LE or Vegas Video LE to Vegas 5. Upgrade Vegas LE to Vegas+DVD – from $599.95 Upgrade any version of Vegas Audio LE or Vegas Video LE to Vegas+DVD. Upgrade Vegas to Vegas 5 – from $199.95 Upgrade Vegas Pro, Vegas Audio, or Vegas Video, or Vegas 4.0 to Vegas 5. Upgrade Vegas to Vegas+DVD – from $299.95 Upgrade Vegas Pro, Vegas Audio, Vegas Video, or Vegas 4.0 to Vegas+DVD. Upgrade Vegas+DVD to Vegas+DVD – from $249.95 Upgrade Vegas+DVD (Vegas 4 and DVD Architect 1) to Vegas+DVD (Vegas 5 and DVD Architect 2).

April 19th, 2004, 05:10 AM	#1307
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes, rendering speeds have definitely improved in Vegas 5.

April 19th, 2004, 08:42 AM	#1309
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	LoL...I knew you'd come around. Little easier to breathe now that that gag is out of your mouth- huh? ;) So who's going to jump on a V5 training DVD first? Have you or Gary considered this? Coming Soon: My Vegas 5 questions post! :)

April 19th, 2004, 09:29 AM	#1312
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I believe Spot will probably have the first one.

April 19th, 2004, 09:37 AM	#1313
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Your best bet is to download the 5.0a version of Vegas and the 2.0 version of DVD Architect (whether or not you buy the boxed version). The box version will contain 5.0 instead of 5.0a. In fact, I would recommend not buying the boxed version as you can get everything from downloading anyway. The only exception is a printed keyboard shortcut card and a "getting started" manual. When you install, simply enter your serial number and then do the secondary registration - same as you did with Vegas 4. Vegas 5 does not care if Vegas 4 is on your system or not. In fact, you can have BOTH on your system and both will continue to function normally. (in fact, I have Vegas 4, Vegas 4, DVDA 1, and DVDA 2 all installed and functional right now on the same computer).

April 19th, 2004, 09:52 AM	#1314
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Charlie White has a review posted over at digitalproducer.com, front page

April 19th, 2004, 10:01 AM	#1316
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Here's the link: http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/a...e.jsp?id=25081 You can also read my first looks in the Vegas Tips, Tricks, and Scripts Newsletter: http://www.jetdv.com/tts

April 19th, 2004, 10:06 AM	#1318
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Yeah that's exactly what I did when I got the boxed version of Vegas+DVD, rather than installing it from the disc I went and downloaded 4.0c and only used the serial from the instruction guides to install them. How about if I DO want the printed manuals for V5 and DVDA2? Can they be purchased?

April 19th, 2004, 10:08 AM	#1319
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The manuals in the box are just "startup guides". The real manual is in PDF format on the CD/download. You have to print your own manual. Same was true with Vegas 4.

April 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM	#1320
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Hmm, now that you mention it- I DO remember it being called the quick start guide. Thanks- I'll be ordering the downloadable Vegas+DVD tonight!