Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · April 7th, 2005, 08:32 PM

If this is any indication: Last year's are still there!

Jay Mitchell · April 7th, 2005, 09:55 PM

Dennis,

I can't resist saying "Until Vegas 7 arrives"

Thanks,

Jay

Josh Bass · April 8th, 2005, 04:58 PM

Alright, Troxilla, thanks. Seems your newsletter simply says to use MPEG-2 mainconcept encoder, and the preset for MPEG-2 DV stream (or whatever). I made the mistake the first time of not including audio, but now it's all good in the hood, yo dope whack bling homey shorty.

Peter Moore · April 8th, 2005, 07:03 PM

Hi Patrick,
For your sake (and that of anyone else who isn't married to Cineform) I will let you know I'm using MidVid's MJPEG codec with great results. By far the best looking compression, relatively efficient too. Perfect for NLE. And free!

Reason I switched away from QT is I Was getting problems keeping the frames accurate. It was for some reason inserting a random number of frames for each clip throwing off my synchronization.

Ian Stark · April 9th, 2005, 05:39 AM

Hmmm . . .the registration site seems to be down (with the following message: "This site is temporarily unavailable.
Please notify the System Administrator" - HOW???).

Jay Mitchell · April 9th, 2005, 06:05 AM

Ian,

Down for maintenance overnight. Will be back up in the morning.

Jay Mitchell

Ian Stark · April 9th, 2005, 06:29 AM

I'll be back!

Many thanks Jay.

Rob Lohman · April 10th, 2005, 06:01 AM

I've registered, can't way to see what they've done to the package!

Jan van den Hemel · April 11th, 2005, 03:33 AM

EDIT: i've figured out how to print both the video and audio to tape (simply by using the "print to tape" feature rather than just playing the timeline to the external monitor) but now I have a new problem: Vegas starts to render the whole thing though I have not added any effects that need rendering. Then it gives me an error, not enough space (even though I have 9 gb free and it's about 30 minutes of video)

What am I doing wrong? Is it really necessary to render everything before printing to tape?

EDIT2: It might be good to mention that the project is PAL widescreen (16:9), progessive. I've tried all the different settings, but every time the whole timeline needs to be rendered, which always gets an out of space-error immediately. Now I'm rendering the whole thing to an AVI, maybe that can be exported...

any help would be greatly appreciated, i'm in a hurry!

Bob Costa · April 11th, 2005, 06:34 AM

Well, if your input is not 100% PAL widescreen (16:9), progessive, that would explain the renders.

Jan van den Hemel · April 11th, 2005, 06:51 AM

my input is 100% widescreen PAL, progressive. I've tried outputting it as such, and I've tried everything else: interlaced, 4:3, etc.. every possible combination - each requires the rendering.

What I really want to know is - do you normally have to render everything or is it because I screwed up some setting?

Edward Troxel · April 11th, 2005, 07:27 AM

Vegas ONLY outputs audio over firewire when you do a print to tape. When you "play the timeline", the audio goes out the audio card. Also, when you "play the timeline", you may not get full framerates depending on the number of effects added... etc...

The correct way to output to tape is to do a Tools - Print to DV Tape. This will render all pieces that need rendering, prepare the audio for output, and then send the results to tape. ONLY changed sections will be rendered. If you have not changed any particular piece, that piece will NOT be rendered.

As for running out of space, how many drives do you have? Have you changed where Vegas stores "Temp" files? It's possible your "C" drive is running out of space even though your files are on the "D" drive and your result is going to the "D" drive. Look in both Options - Preferences and File - Properties and change the file locations.

As for why you think pieces are rendering that don't need rendering, it's hard to say without more information. For example, does your project type match your media type? Do you have a 3D track? Could you have possibly added an effect? Are all the "Levels" sliders on the track headers at 100%? etc...

Keith Paisley · April 11th, 2005, 10:16 AM

I evaluated Vegas a month or two ago but decided to wait to see if there would be a new version coming out. Now I see that 6 will be officially announced in about 1 week. Should I hold off on purchasing Vegas 5+DVD today or is there any official word on a free upgrade to 6 when it's ready? I'm hoping I can go ahead and buy 5 and start using it right now and then upgrade it to 6.0 for free when it's available. But if I can't do that, I'll have to wait. And then I might change my mind again...

Edward Troxel · April 11th, 2005, 11:04 AM

If you purchase Vegas 5 + DVD today, you will qualify for a free upgrade to Vegas 6 + DVD. Videoguys is running a special right now.

Jay Mitchell · April 12th, 2005, 12:22 PM

These four Sony NAB 2005 Training Classroom Sessions will be captured and made available to view as multicam edited streaming videos for all Sony Vegas and DVD Architect software users, worldwide. Each classroom session and video will run 45 minutes.

Vegas 6 Essentials
Vegas 6 New Features
DVD Architect 3 Essentials
DVD Architect 3 New Features

The Sony NAB 2005 Vegas 6 and DVD Architect 3 Streaming Video Sessions are being produced by Liam kennedy and Jay Mitchell of the SCVUG and will be available to view on VegasEditors.com

The streams will be available to view on Tuesday April 19th.

Registration is required to view the streams.

April 7th, 2005, 08:32 PM	#1156
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If this is any indication: Last year's are still there! __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 8th, 2005, 04:58 PM	#1158
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Alright, Troxilla, thanks. Seems your newsletter simply says to use MPEG-2 mainconcept encoder, and the preset for MPEG-2 DV stream (or whatever). I made the mistake the first time of not including audio, but now it's all good in the hood, yo dope whack bling homey shorty. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

April 9th, 2005, 05:39 AM	#1160
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Hmmm . . .the registration site seems to be down (with the following message: "This site is temporarily unavailable. Please notify the System Administrator" - HOW???). __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

April 9th, 2005, 06:29 AM	#1162
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	I'll be back! Many thanks Jay. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

April 10th, 2005, 06:01 AM	#1163
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I've registered, can't way to see what they've done to the package! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 7th, 2005, 09:55 PM	#1157
Jay Mitchell Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 40	Dennis, I can't resist saying "Until Vegas 7 arrives" Thanks, Jay

April 8th, 2005, 07:03 PM	#1159
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Hi Patrick, For your sake (and that of anyone else who isn't married to Cineform) I will let you know I'm using MidVid's MJPEG codec with great results. By far the best looking compression, relatively efficient too. Perfect for NLE. And free! Reason I switched away from QT is I Was getting problems keeping the frames accurate. It was for some reason inserting a random number of frames for each clip throwing off my synchronization.

April 9th, 2005, 06:05 AM	#1161
Jay Mitchell Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 40	Ian, Down for maintenance overnight. Will be back up in the morning. Jay Mitchell

April 11th, 2005, 03:33 AM	#1164
Jan van den Hemel Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PAL land Posts: 87	urgent - printing to tape problem EDIT: i've figured out how to print both the video and audio to tape (simply by using the "print to tape" feature rather than just playing the timeline to the external monitor) but now I have a new problem: Vegas starts to render the whole thing though I have not added any effects that need rendering. Then it gives me an error, not enough space (even though I have 9 gb free and it's about 30 minutes of video) What am I doing wrong? Is it really necessary to render everything before printing to tape? EDIT2: It might be good to mention that the project is PAL widescreen (16:9), progessive. I've tried all the different settings, but every time the whole timeline needs to be rendered, which always gets an out of space-error immediately. Now I'm rendering the whole thing to an AVI, maybe that can be exported... any help would be greatly appreciated, i'm in a hurry! __________________ J.

April 11th, 2005, 06:34 AM	#1165
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Well, if your input is not 100% PAL widescreen (16:9), progessive, that would explain the renders.

April 11th, 2005, 06:51 AM	#1166
Jan van den Hemel Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PAL land Posts: 87	my input is 100% widescreen PAL, progressive. I've tried outputting it as such, and I've tried everything else: interlaced, 4:3, etc.. every possible combination - each requires the rendering. What I really want to know is - do you normally have to render everything or is it because I screwed up some setting? __________________ J.

April 11th, 2005, 07:27 AM	#1167
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas ONLY outputs audio over firewire when you do a print to tape. When you "play the timeline", the audio goes out the audio card. Also, when you "play the timeline", you may not get full framerates depending on the number of effects added... etc... The correct way to output to tape is to do a Tools - Print to DV Tape. This will render all pieces that need rendering, prepare the audio for output, and then send the results to tape. ONLY changed sections will be rendered. If you have not changed any particular piece, that piece will NOT be rendered. As for running out of space, how many drives do you have? Have you changed where Vegas stores "Temp" files? It's possible your "C" drive is running out of space even though your files are on the "D" drive and your result is going to the "D" drive. Look in both Options - Preferences and File - Properties and change the file locations. As for why you think pieces are rendering that don't need rendering, it's hard to say without more information. For example, does your project type match your media type? Do you have a 3D track? Could you have possibly added an effect? Are all the "Levels" sliders on the track headers at 100%? etc... __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 11th, 2005, 10:16 AM	#1168
Keith Paisley Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 190	ready to buy. will I get a free upgrade to 6? I evaluated Vegas a month or two ago but decided to wait to see if there would be a new version coming out. Now I see that 6 will be officially announced in about 1 week. Should I hold off on purchasing Vegas 5+DVD today or is there any official word on a free upgrade to 6 when it's ready? I'm hoping I can go ahead and buy 5 and start using it right now and then upgrade it to 6.0 for free when it's available. But if I can't do that, I'll have to wait. And then I might change my mind again...

April 11th, 2005, 11:04 AM	#1169
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you purchase Vegas 5 + DVD today, you will qualify for a free upgrade to Vegas 6 + DVD. Videoguys is running a special right now. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

April 12th, 2005, 12:22 PM	#1170
Jay Mitchell Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 40	These four Sony NAB 2005 Training Classroom Sessions will be captured and made available to view as multicam edited streaming videos for all Sony Vegas and DVD Architect software users, worldwide. Each classroom session and video will run 45 minutes. Vegas 6 Essentials Vegas 6 New Features DVD Architect 3 Essentials DVD Architect 3 New Features The Sony NAB 2005 Vegas 6 and DVD Architect 3 Streaming Video Sessions are being produced by Liam kennedy and Jay Mitchell of the SCVUG and will be available to view on VegasEditors.com The streams will be available to view on Tuesday April 19th. Registration is required to view the streams.