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Glen Elliott September 4th, 2003 09:54 PM

Scratch the 24p plug-in I have Vegas 4- I want that Movie Looks plug in!

Rob Lohman September 9th, 2003 11:01 AM

The best quality will be uncompressed or a lossless codec like
HUFFYUV. DV will downgrade your quality. Whether that is
acceptable to you depends mostly on whether you have a fast
enough system to handle low or no compression and have the
disc space.

Rob Lohman September 9th, 2003 01:34 PM

When I was using Premiere a while ago I noticed the same thing.
As soon as you go out through firewire the preview in Premiere
gets very jerky and slow. If you want to use it, don't go out over
firewire.

In Vegas you can choose to EITHER have it on your computer
screen OR on your firewire out... Not both.

Rob Lohman September 9th, 2003 01:42 PM

I'm afraid the program is a bit too new... So not a lot of people
have probably used it a lot. If Adobe has a forum you might
want to check there.

Brian M. Dickman September 9th, 2003 02:08 PM

Another option is the BlackMagic Design uncompressed Quicktime Codec. Doesn't require any of their hardware, just renders and reads lossless files through Quicktime.

http://www.decklink.com/support.asp

Robert Poulton September 9th, 2003 03:09 PM

Since most of my work deals with images I always render out the movies to an image sequence once I edit the movie then i will apply the effect.

Rob

Glenn Chan September 9th, 2003 04:22 PM

What is your output format? If it is DV then there isn't much point in rendering to a lossless codec. Rendering 1st generation DV footage isn't that bad (it's very hard to tell the difference between 1st and 2nd generation footage), but rendering computer-generated images with the DV codec can lead to a quality hit.

Jacob Walker September 9th, 2003 06:42 PM

When you make a new project click on Custom Settings, and under the video options theres an option to "Scale clips to project dimensions when adding to sequence"

Nick Medrano September 9th, 2003 07:24 PM

Hi,
Yea, here's an image of where to go to make this happen:
http://www.adobevideo.com/images/scale.jpg

Good luck!

Rob Lohman September 10th, 2003 04:12 AM

We'd have to see some uncompressed full resolution stills first.
I've never seen any such problems on my Vegas setup. Keep
in mind that a preview monitor is just that, preview. The quality
can only be judged from the final render.

I think the Adobe people are not talking the truth. You seem
to already prove this yourself because you say that the final
render from Premiere is fine, but from AE it ain't.

How can one be good and the other "bad" if the problem is
in the source and therefor both should have it.

Are you 100% certain you are rendering at the highest quality
settings? For example Vegas renders default at GOOD instead
of BEST. I can imagine the AE export has an option to set the
quality level as well.

Lars Siden September 10th, 2003 04:17 AM

Hi,

Thanx Nick - I knew it had to be there some where!

// Lazze

Andrew Petrie September 10th, 2003 07:30 AM

I can't provide any help, but with my Quicktime 5 encoding at the highest quality still creates artifacts (pixelated) splotches when any generated text media done over a moving background. Kinda ugly!

Ed Smith September 10th, 2003 09:55 AM

It might be worth upgrading Premiere?

Ed

Rob Lohman September 10th, 2003 10:27 AM

We need to see examples in an uncompressed format at full
resolution as I indicated on another thread.

Brian M. Dickman September 10th, 2003 10:41 AM

Quicktime's default codecs are lossy and should not be used for multi-generation exports. The Blackmagic codec uses the quicktime framework, but is itself a lossless codec and will not degrade. Any app that can use quicktime for import/export can use the blackmagic codec, but it's not lossy by default if you just choose Quicktime for your export without specifying the codec.


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