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Josh Bass
December 3rd, 2007, 02:03 PM
Couldn't tell you. I went as cheap as possible, and I think someone recommended canon, actually. Like I said, I don't use it very often at all, so it should last a while despite a lack of mechanical quality. As for the electronics, as long as you have the firewire port, you're fine. If it plays miniDV tape as doesn't drop a lot of frames on capture, that's really all you need, I think.

Tengukashi Onimoto
February 14th, 2008, 08:46 PM
So let me get this straight, any DV camcorder with a tape deck and firewire and/or composite ports can be used as a recording deck? The reason I ask is that I wanted to get a portable tape deck, but they're so expensive. So I was wondering, is their any to take out the tape deck, with the firewire/composite ports still attatched, and putting them in some kind of enclosure to make a sony GV-Dxxxx kind of device? If there is a way
The link for the homebuilt camcorder idea: http://www.c-h-a-o-s.com/2007/06/12/diy-how-to-build-a-camcorder/

Adam Slaght
April 16th, 2008, 12:07 PM
I have a project coming up where I will need to capture from a bunch of tapes that are going to be givin to me.(many different brands)

I curretntly use a HV20 to capture my A1 footage but do not want run the risk of messing that workflow up by running a bunch of unknown tapes through the HV20.

So I am looking at getting a Sony DSR-11 for this project, here are my questions:

When using the DSR-11 will I get drop outs when using different tapes stock?

Do I need to run a cleaning tape when I switch brands of tape in the deck?

Is there a better suggestion for handling this task?

Thanks in advance,
Adam,

Ethan Cooper
April 16th, 2008, 03:44 PM
The dsr-11's I've used were freakin workhorses and we couldn't break them if we tried. Just use some common sense. If your brain is telling you to run a cleaning tape, then just do it, it'll take a whole minute of your life but if it makes you feel better then go ahead.
As a side note, was that the golden age of Sony prosumer electronics? The pd150's and dsr-11's just worked dang it. They were well built and lasted forever. At least the ones I worked with anyway. Now stuff just seems cheaper. Sorry to get sidetracked.

Adam Slaght
April 17th, 2008, 12:52 PM
Has anybody used the JVC SR-DVM600? or know anything about it.

Thanks,
Adam

Gabe Strong
April 17th, 2008, 04:11 PM
The dsr-11's I've used were freakin workhorses and we couldn't break them if we tried. Just use some common sense. If your brain is telling you to run a cleaning tape, then just do it, it'll take a whole minute of your life but if it makes you feel better then go ahead.
As a side note, was that the golden age of Sony prosumer electronics? The pd150's and dsr-11's just worked dang it. They were well built and lasted forever. At least the ones I worked with anyway. Now stuff just seems cheaper. Sorry to get sidetracked.


Ethan,

You are SPOT ON. I have a PD-150 and a DSR-11 deck. Bought them both 5 years ago....both still work like they are brand new. They are both absolute WORKHORSES and I still use them both all the time. Shot a 2 hour meeting last night for the PBS station with my PD-150 and am working on capturing it now with my DSR-11. They still get a ton of use and I haven't had a SINGLE problem with either one of them. I sure do wish all the new gear was made like this.

Vaughan Greer
December 11th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Professional videographers never use their expensive camera to play back or capture the footage. If money is not an issue but reliability is, then a deck is used. If money is an issue, than a cheap camcorder can be used to capture tapes.

As long as this camcorder works as expected (no dropped frames, no tape messed up mechanically), then there is no difference - capturing video from a miniDV tape is nothing more than file transfer. But of course, if you have to transfer a tape filmed in HDV, you will need an HDV deck or camcorder.


We have a Canon XH A1 that we use primarily. If we wanted to shoot HDV could we buy a Canon HV 30 and use that to dump the video to computer?

Colin McDonald
December 11th, 2008, 02:36 PM
If we wanted to shoot HDV could we buy a Canon HV 30 and use that to dump the video to computer?

I've even heard that some folks use one to take video with when its not being used as a deck - fancy that!

Duncan Craig
December 11th, 2008, 02:50 PM
We have a Canon XH A1 that we use primarily. If we wanted to shoot HDV could we buy a Canon HV 30 and use that to dump the video to computer?

Yes, for sure, if you are shooting 1080i.
I don't know if the HV20/30 understands Canons other 24p footage format.

Nevin Styre
January 18th, 2009, 01:05 PM
yes you can use it to capture progressive formats, I just captured some footage on my hv30 that was recorded on an A1 as 24p, it is captured as the hdv1080 24p format.

Barry Rivadue
May 11th, 2009, 06:46 PM
After seven years of almost 24/7 brutal use my steadfast DV200 is acting up. Every time I do capturing now the results are that the audio sounds tinny and the video stutters and breaks. When using a camcorder, with the same cable, the problem disappears so I'm sure it's the DV2000. I tried cleaning its heads but it doesn't improve matters. What could be ailing it, and is it terminal?

J. Stephen McDonald
May 11th, 2009, 08:27 PM
After seven years of almost 24/7 brutal use my steadfast DV200 is acting up. Every time I do capturing now the results are that the audio sounds tinny and the video stutters and breaks. When using a camcorder, with the same cable, the problem disappears so I'm sure it's the DV2000. I tried cleaning its heads but it doesn't improve matters. What could be ailing it, and is it terminal?

After 7 years of steady, brutal use, as you describe it, this VCR should be bronzed and placed on a pedestal of honor. It's amazing it would last so long. The heads and also the tape-transport mechanism are probably worn down. It might be just a matter of having the tape alignment system re-adjusted by a qualified repair shop or it could require a new head assembly or more.

Barry Rivadue
May 12th, 2009, 06:20 AM
Thanks for your thoughts. I guess I really gave this "industrial strength" VCR a good run over the years, and it was superb in every way. I'll see what I'll do next.

Chris Hurd
May 12th, 2009, 07:40 AM
The money put into a service call will most likely pay for itself over the course of this deck's remaining natural life.

Barry Rivadue
May 12th, 2009, 10:28 AM
Thanks--until I go completely tapeless this has been a jewel of a deck.

Caleb Royer
June 26th, 2009, 09:23 PM
What is the best quality tape to get for the XL2?

Does the brand have to be Canon, or can I use Sony, JVC or some other brand?

Thanks,

CJ

Ervin Farkas
June 29th, 2009, 05:09 AM
I always used Sony or TDK in my camcorders; two weeks ago all I got in stock was Panasonic... sure enough, yesterday when I tried to rewind for capturing, it gave me an error while the mechanism made a funny noise.

I gave it a second try and it all worked fine in the end but I"ll never ever buy Pana again.

Yes, you can use any brand; make sure you buy from a reputable seller to avoid counterfait stuff. I always buy my tapes at Costco, they carry the two brands mentioned at the beginning - over 100 tapes and not one defective yet.

Jarred Capellman
July 15th, 2009, 05:10 PM
I always used Sony or TDK in my camcorders; two weeks ago all I got in stock was Panasonic... sure enough, yesterday when I tried to rewind for capturing, it gave me an error while the mechanism made a funny noise.

I gave it a second try and it all worked fine in the end but I"ll never ever buy Pana again.

Yes, you can use any brand; make sure you buy from a reputable seller to avoid counterfait stuff. I always buy my tapes at Costco, they carry the two brands mentioned at the beginning - over 100 tapes and not one defective yet.

I second that, Costco has the Sony tapes for dirt cheap in a 10 pack, I've used over 30 and never had any problems.