and if you have a cpu with hyperthreading, the main concept codec runs about 20% faster....

for some reason, Vegas runs better wth a HyperT CPU than with a dual CPU...

at the mo, one of my systems, is runnign a stock 2.4gh P4 and i can run 2 sets of V4 and it playes perfectly...

so u dont need 2 cpus to run 2 V4's at teh same time... u can open more... but dont crap out the ASIO drivers if ur using an ASIO comaptible soundcard... it doesnt like it...
You can only run one instance using the ASIO drivers, so make sure yoru second project is runninig standard Soundcard drivers or windows drivers...

"so u dont need 2 cpus to run 2 V4's at teh same time"

Not what I said. You can run 2 (or more) instances on ANY computer. But, the response time WILL be better with 2 CPUs. (basically, the background instance will get more CPU time)

Speaking of AISO drivers...I saw that setting in one of Vegas's preferences. I turned it on and I couldn't drop any clips onto the timeline- got an error message "Cannot play clip, incompatable audio type" or something along those lines. I'm running a sound blaster audigy, btw.

What is AISO and what does it do?

Hello,

i am trying to get an external monitor to work with Vegas 4.0.. I have a panasonic ag-dv2000 deck i am using.. i have clicked on the little external monitor symbol which is above the vegas video preview window.. My deck is set to DV and Passive on the edit mode.. i am able to capture, and i can see the footage when i capture on the external monitor, but i cannot see the video on the external monitor when playing from the timeline ??

Under video device, i have it set to OHCI IEEE 1394..

What am i missing here ??

thanks,

mike

Settings SOUND right. Mine are set the same and mine does work through the AG-DV2000. How about PTT. Does that work? When External Monitor is on, what shows on the computer preview screen?

I am using vegas to rotate a picture slightly where the camera was a little crooked.. The rotation is slight enough for the resulting emptiness to still be outside the action safe area (even moreso cause I'm doing a crop to 16x9).

Anyway, with all the settings at Best, I notice some odd distortion - about halfway through the picture vertically there's two small horizontal lines going across the whole picture that are slightly discolored from the rest of the picture. It's quite noticable.

Does anyone know what might be causing this or how to fix it? I could post a sample if necessary but I think that describes the problem pretty much. A little gaussian blur works, but of course that, well, blurs it. :) Is this just a standard thing with image rotation that I have to live with?

Is this distortion on preview - or render. If on render, have you selected Reduce interlace flicker and Force resample? (Both are found under Properties, when you rightclick on the event.)

Hello,

When the external monitor is selected.. It says external monitor in the little Vegas video window.. I just do not see any video pass through to the NTSC monitor (from timeline palyaback)

Mike

It's in render and preview.

I did not select reduce interlace flicker because I actually don't want to deinterlace the footage - or do I misunderstand that function?

Also I have smart resample selected. What will force resample do?

Thanks a lot.

Hello

a bit of an update, i tried the PTT function as Ed suggested, and i got weird results.. it appears to lay video to tape, but when i look at the video it is broken in big blocks and the sound is distorted.. i tried in both machine control and manual.. same result..

Not sure what the deal is here.. am i missing some other setting on the deck ??

mike

I cannot explain in technical terms what Reduce interlace flicker does, but it does NOT deinterlace. That is done by selections you choose in the render dialogue. In my experience Reduce interlace flicker just does what it's called.
Vegas 4 is supposed to resample automatically when an event has changed. I often select Force resample nonetheless, then I'm sure resampling will be done.
Give it a try.

Will do. Thanks for the advice!

Hello,

more of an updat on this situation.. I drug my camera to the editing room, and connected everything.. and all works, i see the external monitor video, i am able to print to tape.. So it is a setting or something may be wrong with my panasonic AG-DV2000.. Any ideas ?/

Mike

See if this refers to the same problem (read the whole thread)

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=191887

hello,

i am stumped on this problem..currently vegas is useless to me, as i am unable to Print To Tape or see any external video..

I have a Panasonic AG-DV2000 deck connected via firewire.. i have been unable to use it to view video on an external monitor, or to Print To Tape..
here is what i have been able to do..

machine control seems normal, even on Print To Tape, just no video..
i tried with my Sony DV Camera (Which I do not want to use as my deck) and all works as advertised.. external monitor and Print To Tape Work !!
i tried using the Sony Video camera as my video source to the Panasonic Deck, to see if it would Pass through.. and yes i can see video out..

i tried various settings on the Panny deck, none seem to make a difference.. The edit mode is set to passive and DV, with the input select set to DV..

Any other AG-DV2000 owners have any ideas.. as I am baffled at what to do next..

Mike

Hm, hard to say if that's the same problem. It may be just an inherent problem with rotating footage. I noticed that Premier does a rotation and applies an excessive amount of blur to it when it does. Vegas may be applying much less blur, if any, leaving it to you to get it the way you want. At any rate, I'm not using the rotation as the slightly crooked camera is much less noticable than a horizontal line running through the picture! :)

Not sure without checking every single setting on mine. I know it DOES work with Vegas as I have two of them working with Vegas connected to three different computers.

I was thinking about doing my next project in Vegas- that way I am forced to learn the interface better, etc. My only concern is it's rendering speed for mpg 1 and 2. I currently have worked with Procoder right from the Premiere timeline and am very happy with the speed and quality. I usually renders at roughly 14fps which only takes roughly 2 hours for an hour project.

1.I haven't even tried to render anything in Vegas yet- I heard you have to "register" Vegas's MainConcept encoder before using it- does that mean simply register or is there a fee that is applied?

2. How is the speed of Vegas's rendering? Anyone use both Procoder and Vegas's MPG1 and 2 encoding?

3. If there is a dramatic advantage in speed using Procoder- how is outputting to DV AVI from Vegas then using procoder to convert that to MPG2- Will there be any quality loss?!

1. There is no fee involved.

2. I have nothing to compare with.

3. You can get a frameserver for Vegas at http://www.debugmode.com/pluginpac/frameserver.php so you do not have to create any intermediate avi files if you want to use another encoder than the MainConcept encoder. By using the frameserver you will be encoding directly from the timeline so there should be no "additional" quality loss.

Hans

A friend of mine played Guinnie Pig and tried out Frame Server and when he got the file into Premiere (from Vegas) he had to render the file in Premiere anway. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose?!

Premiere has a filter you can add an opague colored border to your video on eitehr the horzontal or vertical edges that obscures the video. Does Vegas have anything that does this?

Like black bars to simulate 16x9...but without using the pan/crop tool. I need to be able to obscure video on the sides as well if need be.

Use Photoshop (or any paint program or even generated media) to create a mask using any types of borders you want. Any picture can be used as a mask. Use it to either put edges on top or bottom.

Nevermind I found out how to do it:
-add new track
-right click, choose add generated media, solid color
-then use the track motion tool with the maintain aspect un-checked to resize it and move to whatever corner of the screen.

Not bad beings I'm a 3-week Vegas newb! ;)


PS When you use the pan-crop tool to crop to 16x9- will that just add black bars (letterboxing) on the screen? Or does that actually change it's aspect to 16x9?

I can't understand why he would send a file from Vegas to Premiere. I have sent files from the Vegas timeline to stand-alone encoders (trial versions but I can't imagine this makes any difference) without any problems. As far as I understand the purpose of the frameserver is to be able to send the files directly from the timeline to stand-alone encoders (no need to render to intermediate files).

He was trying to add an effect/filter that was specific to Premiere.
So what your saying is if I finish a project in Vegas and want to encode it in Canopus Procoder I can do so using Frame Server? I read the description and it made it sound like it was only made for transferring data from one NLE timeline to another.
Have you used Frame Server to output your timeline to a stand-alone encoder sucessfully? If so which NLE and what encoding program?

I have done it succesfully from Vegas 4 to ProCoder (demo version 1.25) and CCE (also a demo version). Since I've only had access to demo versions the clips have been very small in size (5 minute limit with ProCoder and a 3 minute limit with CCE).

Hans

So how exactly do you do it- the site doesn't have detailed directions. You export from Vegas (file> render as>) then choose Frame Server as the file type. Then what- do you have to keep Vegas open (and "serving") while you open up Procoder and start the render? Also with Procoder do you simply just choose the file being served as the source....is the render times decreased doing it this way- or is it basicly working just as if Vegas had a Procoder Plug-in. In other words, I have Procoder with the Premiere plug-in, so when I'm finished editing I can encode right from the Premiere timeline in Procoder...so in a sense Premiere is "serving" the timeline to Procoder, and works on the same premis as Frame Server?
*did I lose you, I'm rambling?!*

Yes, that is the method used. Just "Render As" to the frameserver file and open that framerserver file in the target application (i.e. Procoder or CCE or whatever). If you do that to Premiere, you are doing EXACTLY the same thing.

I don't know if there is any speed difference BUT you won't need all the extra disk space required for the intermediate render.

Ed, so does Vegas have to stay running while Procoder encodes?

...and, why did my friend end up having to re-render the file that was being served from Vegas to Premiere?

Yes, Vegas has to remain running. It can't "serve" if it is not running.

it's like the premiere's .ppj-files

Kewl, so what can I do in the meantime?

Write a set of smaller files, use a different format (QuickTime?) or frameserve from Premeire.
///d@

As Dennis correctly pointed out the name Alex is reffering to is
the CAPTURE device used. By default Vegas does use its own
codec and you can check this in the preferences as pointed out
in this thread.

Can you tell us a bit more on what you did to export the movie?
What settings etc. did you use?

I downloaded two scripts once that both copy a frame at full
quality within vegas on the clipboard. One of the two ALSO
writes it to disk as either JPG or PNG.

The nice thing is that:

1. you don't have to change your previews settings manually

2. they restore your preview window after the export

3. they export in the CORRECT aspect ratio for viewing/editing
on a PC in something like photoshop (that uses a 1.0 PA)

If anyone is interested I can e-mail both scripts. Don't know
where I downloaded those... Send me an e-mail at visuar@iname.com
if you want 'em!

The scripts can be downloaded from http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/help/kb/kb_files.asp

Indeed! Thanks for finding that again. You do need to register
with the site though (free).

I've had good results in Vegas downcoverting the framerate.
However I did not had to upsample the resolution. Are you
referring to that?

Adam...just read your post...i don't do any PAL conversions, so, can't answer your q's. hopefully someone else will know.

AISO is a better audio standard to communicate with your
soundcard. But you must have a soundcard with AISO drivers
(installed) for this to work. Which you probably don't (usually
the more expensive cards have these drivers).

If you can change some settings on the AG fiddle with those.
What is that "passive" thing?

I am trying to use my television as an external monitor using Vegas 3.0. I have never had a problem with it before, but all of the sudden the video won't play on my television. The connnections from my computer to the camcorder to the television are all secure. Does anyone know what the problem could be?

Thanks
DVGuru@aol.com

If everything is exactly the same as before and it always worked before, what changed?

Did you instal any new software?
Did you boot up in a different sequence?

Something HAS to be different. Even if it is a firewire card or cable that has gone bad. Try a different cable. Try a different card. Try a different power-up boot sequence...

Try to narrow down the problem:

1. Can you see the video on the monitor by just playing back the tape in the camcorder?

2. Check the input mode on the monitor, maybe it's something simple like you're looking at VIDEO 2 instead of VIDEO 2.

3. Can you view the video in Vegas using the camcorder's LCD?

1. Yes

2. My television only has Video 1. I also checked the setting on the camcorder. It's set to Video 1.

3. Yes

Perhaps it's a setting in Vegas. Maybe you accidentally turned off the external preview button?

Might also want to ask here: DMN Forums (http://www.dmnforums.com)

Actually it seems to be happening even with files smaller than 4 GB. It's happening on one of my files that's about 2 GB. It's uncompressed.

I'll try sacving as QuickTime uncompressed and see if that'll pick it up.

I've been trying to figure out if Vegas will allow me to blur the edges of the video. Or do a blurred letter box. Does anyone know if this is possible with Vegas 4.0?