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Edward Troxel November 25th, 2003, 10:27 PM If you do a search I did a full explanation of this.
Play the clip until you get to the end (what you now want at the beginning) of the clip.
Stop and press "S" (or trim to that point - really doesn't make a difference)
Apply the velocity envelope to the clip on the RIGHT side of the cursor and delete the clip on the left side of the cursor.
Set the proper velocity.
Change the length and position of the reversed clip as needed.
Dan Measel November 25th, 2003, 10:58 PM Currently in Vegas when I apply a velocity envelope to an event I am not getting the green line down the center of the event I usually do. I assume, like most of my Vegas problems, there is a simple solution, something I have inadvertently clicked. Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
Peter Wright November 25th, 2003, 11:48 PM Check under View > Video Envelopes > Event Velocity
Andrew Petrie November 26th, 2003, 11:23 AM I just don't like how all of the Envelopes can overlap one another. when you first insert them I often have a Fade to Color envelope on a track, then want to add a velocity envelope only to have it appear behind the Fade, and I have to turn off Fade to get to adjust the Velocity, then turn it back on, etc... A bit time consuming when you get creative with envelopes.
It'd be nice to have a small vertical indent caption thingy, one for each type of envelope that you can mouse click on to select the envelope you want to use if they are tight together.
Joe Sacher November 26th, 2003, 12:53 PM You can do a couple things. One is to drag the track taller, giving you a wider area to see the envelopes in. Also, once you click on a "free" node, the nodes for that envelope come to the front. I do this all the time with volume and pan envelopes.
Torsten Blomfeldt November 27th, 2003, 02:36 AM The last but one videoclip and the last videoclip I will have together. (The last but one videoclip is a clip from nature and the last videoclip is a rolling text.)
How do I do that?
Graham Bernard November 27th, 2003, 03:03 AM Torsten, can you describe this in another way? I'm finding it a bit difficult to get my head around what you are asking. . . maybe just me . . have another go . . I'm listening.
Regards,
Grazie
ps - I wish I spoke your language - sorry :-(
Edward Troxel November 27th, 2003, 07:22 AM Put the video on track TWO and the title on track ONE.
For the title, use one of the checkerboard backgrounds and the video will show through with the title above it.
Torsten Blomfeldt November 27th, 2003, 08:25 AM Edward: "For the title, use one of the checkerboard backgrounds and the video will show through with the title above it."
Well I did what you say but use "Text" instead of "checkerboard" (because checkerboard didn't work).
And now I have the text om my last videoclip. Good! One thing is left: How do I get the text rolling?
........................................
(And Graham, yes I know that my English is awful, I am sorry.)
Graham Bernard November 27th, 2003, 08:33 AM OKay, now I understand . .Ed, thanks for picking up with baton and running with this one.
Torsten, when Ed says "Chequer Board", he doesn't mean the "solid" background CB - I know, it's sounds contradictory . . but the CB in the Generated Media is like . . well, an opaque design. The OTHER CB is that which shows tranparent. Chequers on the Text media shows transparent, and THIER chequers just infomr the editor that the background IS transparent. CB on the solid media WILL be opaque. I would think this is why you aren't getting any success at th moment - yeah?
. . not to worry, you'll get there ;-) . . .this confused when I was starting in VideoFactory.
BEst regards,
Grazie
Edward Troxel November 27th, 2003, 01:07 PM To get it to scroll, use the "credit roll" preset.
OR, you can use the "positioning" tab on the text media and use two keyframes: The first keyframe with it off the bottom and the second keyframe with it off the top.
Torsten Blomfeldt November 27th, 2003, 03:00 PM Thanks Edward, I used the credit roll and it was fine!
(I haven't yet learned to use "key frames", but I will soon reed of it to try to understand it.)
Dan Measel November 28th, 2003, 08:55 AM Thanks Peter.
Torsten Blomfeldt November 28th, 2003, 11:53 AM I just discovered an amazing effect.
Video FX - Sharpen - Heavy.
When I inserted that to a videoclip I was stunned. I was before thinking that my Canon XM2 were given very sharp video, but this effect really shaken me. I didn't thought a videoprogram could sharpen videoclip so brilliant.
How could a program do such a marvelous thing?
And is it a good idea to have that effect to all the film? (I have a nature film.)
I have not yet seen how this effect looks in TV, only in Video Preview, and that is amazing.
When do you use that effect?
Edward Troxel November 28th, 2003, 02:46 PM I would definitely check it on an external monitor. Often things look different on the preview window than on a standard TV.
Josh Bass November 28th, 2003, 05:51 PM Okay, first:
I had an audio clip to which I wanted to add reverb, or an echo effect. For some reason, absolutely did nothing, no matter which settings I tried. I used the "apply non-realtime effects" option to a single audio clip. After the new clip was created ("blah blah blah Take 2" or whatever it was called), still no difference. Is there some trick to getting delay/reverb/echo effects working?
Next:
A lot of the time, when I try different fonts for titling, in the preview window in Vegas, they'll look exactly the same, even if it' supposed to be a Cursive type font. However, in the window (dialogue box?) where you select the fonts themselves, size, etc., it'll look correct. Why is this? I recently lost a hard drive for no apparent reason, and with it went microsoft word. Do I not have these fonts anymore, even though they're selectable in Vegas?
Edward Troxel November 28th, 2003, 06:24 PM I think I'd try reinstalling Vegas. I haven't had a problem in either of these areas.
Guest November 28th, 2003, 11:11 PM I bought a TRV-8 at a pawn shop to use as a deck (to save wear and tear on my XL-1s). But when I try to capture in Vegas from it, Vegas doesn't see the device. What am I doing wrong? It sees my XL-1s just fine.
Danka.
Josh Bass November 28th, 2003, 11:36 PM Ah. . man. . .you're killin' me.
Glenn Chan November 29th, 2003, 12:01 AM Those filters do the opposite of blur. It doesn't do the exact reverse of what your camera is doing but should do a pretty good job of making footage a lot sharper. If you do it too much your edges will look weird. They'll have something like halos around them.
Make sure you check it on a TV. Your TV has a setting for sharpness, which kinda does the same thing as the sharpness filter. Feed it a perfect image from another source (i.e. digital picture) to adjust the sharpness setting on the TV.
Dan Lahav November 30th, 2003, 01:08 PM I've been trying to add videos from Vegas to MS frontpage but for some reason they do not want to play. I tried rendering as AVI, MOV, MPEG and none work. However, when i render a movie in premiere and drag it into FrontPage, it works perfectly. Does anyone know what this can be?? Thanks!
Glen Elliott November 30th, 2003, 06:27 PM Hmmm this worries me. I'm going to be doing video web work for a guy and he's using Front Page. Hmmm.
What template are you using? Are you making "any" changes to them?
Edward Troxel November 30th, 2003, 08:59 PM Have you tried WMV?
For the others, compare settings. Make sure you use the same settings in Vegas you are in Premiere. Vegas produces perfectly good files. I don't use Front Page but have no problems using files generated by Vegas on my web page.
Matt Iserman November 30th, 2003, 09:30 PM I use Frontpage 2002 and have not encountered this problem at all. As such, I cannot help Dan with his problem but can reassure Glen that it does work and this may just be an isolated incident.
Dan Lahav November 30th, 2003, 09:38 PM i figured out that i needed to use a script in order to put *.mov in frontpage. Thanks anyways guys!
Peter Jefferson December 1st, 2003, 06:38 AM Hey all, just wondering if anyone has had issues with this:
I recently did a few different variations and after reprocessing (and rendering to raw dv avi) I have noticed some degredation in the footage, which is quite prominent..
Now it's more noticable on material which i converted FROM mpg to avi, however there is SOME on the raw AVI's.
Any ideas as to what would be a good setting to reduce these vertical lines???
They look like scanlines, however they're vertical...
By the way, im in PAL land if that makes any difference....
Edward Troxel December 1st, 2003, 08:32 AM Can you show us a sample (before, after, what was done besides just rendering - i.e. any effects applied)?
Frank Ladner December 1st, 2003, 04:06 PM Edward: You brought up something interesting. I am trying
to output a short animation with multiple audio tracks (stereo
2.0 and Dolby 5.1), using DVD Architect. The animation may
be short enough to include the audio twice, but then how do
I set it up to switch between the different tracks?
Thanks!
Edward Troxel December 1st, 2003, 08:38 PM You would include the entire video twice and provide two buttons on the menu - one for one audio track and one for the other.
Dave Largent December 2nd, 2003, 04:00 AM How is Vegas in it's output of frame grabs from interlaced footage?
I'v made some stills. I know to set it to "full/best". Is it really necessary to also change the properties setting to "interpolate" for best results, or are all stills interpolated regardless?
Anyone noticed any quality improvement using PNG over JPG?
Haven't noticed any difference myself.
Any other hints for best results?
Frank Ladner December 2nd, 2003, 07:22 AM Edward: Thanks! I see what you mean now.
On the DVDs where you can go to options, even while the
movie is playing, and switch the sound between 2.0 and 5.1,
how is that accomplished? This is something that I maybe
could not do with DVD Architect, but I was curious about how
the pros do it.
Thanks!
Edward Troxel December 2nd, 2003, 09:09 AM Probably your best solution would be to use one of the scripts that output images. They generally change all of the settings necessary for the best possible output and then reset the settings back to the original settings upon completion. There are several different versions available.
As for the format, JPG is lossy - PNG is not. So, PNG should be better. However, if you're happy with the JPG's, use them (I'm ususally happy with the JPGs.)
Having said all of the above, I usually just change to BEST - FULL, click on the save picture button, and save as JPG's.
Edward Troxel December 2nd, 2003, 09:12 AM That would require an authoring program that allowed true multiple audio tracks. There may also be other requirements above even that. I'm sure the DVDs with this capability were NOT created with a $200 authoring program - probably more like $20,000!
Frank Ladner December 2nd, 2003, 09:18 AM I guess that's about right. I figured Adobe Encore would
be able to do it, but I haven't tried it, and I haven't heard
too very much about it. (It is only the first version, though.)
So it looks like duplicate movies then.
Thanks for your help, Edward!
Peter Jefferson December 2nd, 2003, 10:00 AM some colour correction was applied, but not enough to be that noticable...
thing is it also happens on non affected files...
i THINK it may be because the clip i was looking at was converted to MPG2, then reconverted back to avi... but ive done that before and have ever seen this...
Rob Lohman December 2nd, 2003, 10:33 AM Is it only a certain color? Red for example is difficult in DV. Coming
from MPEG2 and going to DV definitely can introduce such
problems, depending on bitrate and encoder/decoder quality.
Again, a screenshot or sample might help in identifying the
problem.
Dave Largent December 2nd, 2003, 12:48 PM Edward, where are the scripts available and how are they used?
Edward Troxel December 2nd, 2003, 01:25 PM http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/help/kb/kb_files.asp?s=1
Search for "Snapshot to File" with a date of February 21, 2003
To run a script, go to Tools - Scripting... - Run Script and then pick the downloaded file.
(Note: Scripts require Vegas 4.x and the .NET Framework)
Andre Andreev December 2nd, 2003, 03:17 PM You might want to check http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/home1.htm (go to the Sony Vegas Tutorials section). They have a long list of user-rated vegas automation scripts, plugins and tutorials.
I have not searched it for a "camera shake" script, but if there's a place to find one, that's it. Or, you might suggest writing such a script to one of the gurus there.
You need to register (free) in order to access the knowledge base.
Also, I just realized -- it would be nice if the shake could be "scripted", i.e. sync-ed with events happening in the video. Mentioning war videos, this would be explosions, running, etc.
Of course, in your case (motion graphics), you'd need a simple randomizer with some adjustments to avoid recogniable patterns in the behavior.
Cheers
-- Andre
Rob Lohman December 2nd, 2003, 05:13 PM Do you have the camera in VCR mode? What OS are you running?
If it is XP, does a windows pop up when you connect your camera
and turn it on?
Might be that the firewire port on the TRV-8 is broken?
Rob Lohman December 2nd, 2003, 05:15 PM It might be that your Font cache is corrupt. Try to find a Microsoft
Utility called TweakUI. With this you can fix font caches. Not sure
if this is the case, but you might give it a try...
Josh Bass December 2nd, 2003, 05:38 PM Thanks.
Peter Jefferson December 2nd, 2003, 09:28 PM no mate, its more prominant on flat colours and its actually throughout...
theres no discrimination to where it is visible...
i dont ave a facility right now to upload, but its not restricted to any colour...
strange...
if i get some time, ill upload 2 pics...
Brian Zamen December 3rd, 2003, 06:08 PM Can someone point to a good URL on aspect ratio?
I am trying to get down the 3 selections and how they apply in Vegas.
It is a fairly simple production too.
Basically, I am using pretty much all still images (scanned). Then adding things in the productions like text etc...
Then outputing to mpeg2 for DVD.
Where I think the confusion comes in is that I can set aspect ratio in 3 different places.
Project properties. Then the source media in the production. Lastly when I render.
This will be viewed on widescreen and 4:3 SD TVs. Therefore, we want to create in widescreen and then the people with 4:3 will just have letterboxing.
Just as an example of what happens. If we start with project properties of NTSC DV Widescreen. Then drop scanned pictures in and change aspect ratio to 16:9, then set any generated media (i.e. a color bar with text in it) to widescreen and finally render in NTSC DVD changing display to 16:9 it will work fine. However, if we render to say an AVI file all the text will be "off" the color bar.
What is the most efficient way to do such a production? Set properties to NTSC DV .9091 then set aspect ratio on pictures and generated media to 16:9 and then render to 16:9?
I am just trying to keep from having to adjust the whole production every time we render to something other than NTSC DVD with 16:9 display (i.e. an avi for streaming).
In addition, I want to make sure I do it properly since these are mainly just still images, generated media and viewed on either 16:9 or 4:3 TVs.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for anyone who can help.
Josh Bass December 4th, 2003, 01:49 PM Okay, I slowed down some regular speed footage, shot in the XL1s' frame mode, to about 65% or so for the purpose of making it fit some audio. Now, the footage doesn't look slower than it should, but there are these sort of ghost trails when movement occurs, very slight, but I can see them, and I'm sure a few other people could too. I don't think you could tell watching it on a computer monitor, but on my NTSC monitor you can. I was wondering if there was any way to lessen or eliminate these trails. As I said, the slowed down footage still looks like it's moving at the correct speed, it's the trails that are bothering me. Thanks.
Joris Beverloo December 4th, 2003, 02:13 PM I am not sure if your problem is the same as what bothered me with slow motions. However, I found a solution to make my footage look better after I did a slow motion on it or some other kind of manipulations.
Click on properties of the desired piece if video that you have in slow motion...now mark the box that says: reduce interlace flicker.
Furthermore also select the box : Force resample.
I am not expert on this, but it works for me. By the way...if you used the velocity envelope correctly it really should be slower..maybe it is a shot in where you do not really notice a big difference (just a wild guess)
Hope to have helped you out.
Boyd Ostroff December 4th, 2003, 03:09 PM I haven't tried this with your software or camera, but suspect you'll get better slow motion results if you shoot at normal 60i instead of frame mode. You want as much temporal data as possible for slow motion, and shooting frame mode (as I understand it) only gives you 30 samples per second vs 60 separate fields per second. At least that's what I find with my Sony cameras when comparing slo mo footage originally shot at 1/30 sec vs 1/60 sec.
Edward Troxel December 4th, 2003, 03:17 PM What you are seeing is probably where Vegas is creating the "extra" frames necessary to slow down motion. Frame mode will not slow down as well as the regular mode. Slowing it down just exaggerates the effect but Vegas tries to compensate. Try right-clicking the clip and turning OFF resample and see if that makes a difference.
Edward Troxel December 4th, 2003, 03:25 PM The update for Tsunami compatible with both 4.0d and 4.0e is now available. Just log into http://zenote.com/check_serial.asp and click download to get the new version.
Tor Salomonsen December 4th, 2003, 03:32 PM If you can't re-shoot in regular mode (which would be best) you could try to rightclick the event, select properties and adjust undersample rate. That way you control the degree to which Vegas creates frames between frames. If you have slowed down much, the result will look jumpy, but without ghosting.
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