Canon unveils the XHG1 and XHA1

Kevin Shaw · July 26th, 2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Dhadialla

The lux rating shows 7 lux . Wonder how it will hold up in low light.

My experience with the XL-H1 was that it's not bad in low light, but you have to be careful about using any extra gain. If the new cameras are similar I think they'll hold their own against the Sony HDV models in poor lighting, but the latter produce cleaner images. Call it a toss-up?

Zack Birlew · July 26th, 2006, 10:51 AM

It's good to see that we've finally got the next generation of the GL-cameras. I didn't expect them to include the HD-SDI option and XLRs though, but then it's just like the GL1/XL1-dynamic (ie. only difference is form factor and interchangeable lenses).

Gabriel Yeager · July 26th, 2006, 10:54 AM

I have a translater on my computer and this is what it says.
(starting at the top of page 2?)

(section one)
"- 1/3 type entire pixel several approximately 167 ten thousand pixels, adopting the 3CCD system of effective pixel several 1440×1080. HDV The high resolution, horizontal resolution 800TV book of standard highest level was implemented."

"- Adjusting to hi-vision age, it evolved throughput loading "DIGIC DVII" substantially. Color repeatability and the rich graduation repeatability which are superior are implemented."

"- Depending on optimum encoding processing of the CANON individual HD codec LSI The high picture quality record of HDV/playback is made possible."

(section two)
"- The fluorite, the UD lens, it installs aspherical lens each 1, loading 11 group 16 optical 20 time zoom video L lenses which administer extensive multi coat. You are proud of the picture quality which excels from wide angular photographing of 35mm film conversion 32.5mm to the telephoto area of 650mm."

"- Suppressing the blurring of wide frequency with super range optical type hand blurring revision function (shift expression)."

"- The outside measuring sensor was added to former TV-AF, you answer the severe focusing of HD at high-speed high accuracy with "super quick AF". Low at the time of luminous intensity photographing and, power is shown at the time of 24F/30F photographing."

"- It squeezed to the lens tube section and arranged the manual adjust ring and improved operativity. In addition, it adds high-speed zoom mode, direct can obtain the operation impression at the time of zoom ring use."

(section Three)
"- The high picture quality of HDV1080i, the high powered 20 time zoom
lens, mass approximately 2330g * loading the high-level interface
which answers the use of the professional onto the lightweight compact. Mobility is shown in use at collection of data and the location site and the like where the space is limited."

"- It is superior in weight balance by enclosing the battery to the body, it supports stock photographing which is stabilized."

"- Loading 2.8 type liquid crystal monitors. It corresponds to various scenes such as high angle and low angle photographing.
* Mass of 1 XH G1 photographing time (hood and BP-950G, the tape and the memory card it includes)"

Thats all I have done for now... Sorry for the bad translation! Its just what the computer did.

EDIT: Sorry I did not read the full thread! I now see that Mark Utley said;
"These cameras are now on Canon's USA site.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...categoryid=172." Now I know that it has already ben done. Sorry for your time.

Gabriel.

Graham Bernard · July 26th, 2006, 11:01 AM

Now with the UK too:

http://www.canon.co.uk/About_Us/News...PageID=26446#1

Gabriel Yeager · July 26th, 2006, 11:05 AM

So does this mean that the GL1/GL2 will drop in price, along with the XL H1?

Lorinda Norton · July 26th, 2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel Yeager

(section two)
"- The fluorite, the UD lens, it installs aspherical lens each 1, loading 11 group 16 optical 20 time zoom video L lenses which administer extensive multi coat. You are proud of the picture quality which excels from wide angular photographing of 35mm film conversion 32.5mm to the telephoto area of 650mm."

"- Suppressing the blurring of wide frequency with super range optical type hand blurring revision function (shift expression)."

Once more, please, in English??? lol. Sorry, but this technical stuff goes way over my head. Is this lens much different from Canon's other stock lenses?

And Graham....holdouts like us will make the leap. It's just a matter of time...and $$... ;)

Kevin Shaw · July 26th, 2006, 11:09 AM

Lorinda: it has a 20X zoom range going from "pretty darn wide" to "more than you'll usually need telephoto". Better than anything else in its class as far as I can tell.

Gabriel Yeager · July 26th, 2006, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorinda Norton

Once more, please, in English??? lol. Sorry, but this technical stuff goes way over my head. Is this lens much different from Canon's other stock lenses?

I'm sorry but I cant answer that, cause I don't know what it means either... o_0

Peter Ferling · July 26th, 2006, 11:11 AM

After reading the article on the camcorderinfo.net, I like the mention of a camera built for especially for news and event videographers. The arrangement of the buttons and controls, and the added third ring for IRIS on the lens speaks volumes of how much effective material I will have vs. the "frame fodder" when aquiring the shot. Something I liked about the XL1s, not the best image, but you could get more shots that worked. Now I'll have the same controls, and at HDV resolution.

The smaller size and weight will go easy on my back. A drawback to working with the XL1s. (It's not a true shoulder cam, and required a three-point rig and a wide stance).

My hopes are for more accurate skin tones, another canon trait that I liked when filming people in all kinds of lighting. I'd sure like to see some sample video.

Harris Porter · July 26th, 2006, 11:18 AM

Is "jet black" the official color of every HDV camera out there? I'm not saying it doesn't look cool, I just wonder why Sony, JVC and Canon simultaneously dropped their grays and silvers when a new format came along.

What if I'm on a night shoot and I stumble and break my $7000 camera just because it's sooo stylish I can't even see it? That's what worries me.

Stu Holmes · July 26th, 2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Dhadialla

Hello,
The lux rating shows 7 lux . Wonder how it will hold up in low light.

Cheers
Paul

I'm going to guess that the quoted 7lux is the Japanese version of lux rating.
This would equate to the "USA" version of min.lux rating at about 3lux, or basically very similar to the FX1/Z1 IMO.

Gabriel Yeager · July 26th, 2006, 11:24 AM

Does anyone know how much these baby's are going to cost?

Thanks!

Gabriel.

James Klatt · July 26th, 2006, 11:36 AM

How about the weight of these puppies? I am curious to see if I'd be able to use my merlin steadicam.

Kevin Shaw · July 26th, 2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harris Porter

What if I'm on a night shoot and I stumble and break my $7000 camera just because it's sooo stylish I can't even see it? That's what worries me.

Hmmm. Maybe you could line it with neon glow lights like the kids are putting on their cars these days? :-)

Simon Wyndham · July 26th, 2006, 11:39 AM

Maybe its already fitted with a neon glow in that circular side bit thingy.

July 26th, 2006, 10:51 AM	#77
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	It's good to see that we've finally got the next generation of the GL-cameras. I didn't expect them to include the HD-SDI option and XLRs though, but then it's just like the GL1/XL1-dynamic (ie. only difference is form factor and interchangeable lenses). __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

July 26th, 2006, 11:01 AM	#79
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Canon UK Now with the UK too: http://www.canon.co.uk/About_Us/News...PageID=26446#1

July 26th, 2006, 11:11 AM	#84
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	After reading the article on the camcorderinfo.net, I like the mention of a camera built for especially for news and event videographers. The arrangement of the buttons and controls, and the added third ring for IRIS on the lens speaks volumes of how much effective material I will have vs. the "frame fodder" when aquiring the shot. Something I liked about the XL1s, not the best image, but you could get more shots that worked. Now I'll have the same controls, and at HDV resolution. The smaller size and weight will go easy on my back. A drawback to working with the XL1s. (It's not a true shoulder cam, and required a three-point rig and a wide stance). My hopes are for more accurate skin tones, another canon trait that I liked when filming people in all kinds of lighting. I'd sure like to see some sample video. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

July 26th, 2006, 11:18 AM	#85
Harris Porter Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mobile, Ala. Posts: 30	color Is "jet black" the official color of every HDV camera out there? I'm not saying it doesn't look cool, I just wonder why Sony, JVC and Canon simultaneously dropped their grays and silvers when a new format came along. What if I'm on a night shoot and I stumble and break my $7000 camera just because it's sooo stylish I can't even see it? That's what worries me. __________________ www.damdirtyapes.com

July 26th, 2006, 10:54 AM	#78
Gabriel Yeager Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington, NorthWest USA Posts: 788	I have a translater on my computer and this is what it says. (starting at the top of page 2?) (section one) "- 1/3 type entire pixel several approximately 167 ten thousand pixels, adopting the 3CCD system of effective pixel several 1440×1080. HDV The high resolution, horizontal resolution 800TV book of standard highest level was implemented." "- Adjusting to hi-vision age, it evolved throughput loading "DIGIC DVII" substantially. Color repeatability and the rich graduation repeatability which are superior are implemented." "- Depending on optimum encoding processing of the CANON individual HD codec LSI The high picture quality record of HDV/playback is made possible." (section two) "- The fluorite, the UD lens, it installs aspherical lens each 1, loading 11 group 16 optical 20 time zoom video L lenses which administer extensive multi coat. You are proud of the picture quality which excels from wide angular photographing of 35mm film conversion 32.5mm to the telephoto area of 650mm." "- Suppressing the blurring of wide frequency with super range optical type hand blurring revision function (shift expression)." "- The outside measuring sensor was added to former TV-AF, you answer the severe focusing of HD at high-speed high accuracy with "super quick AF". Low at the time of luminous intensity photographing and, power is shown at the time of 24F/30F photographing." "- It squeezed to the lens tube section and arranged the manual adjust ring and improved operativity. In addition, it adds high-speed zoom mode, direct can obtain the operation impression at the time of zoom ring use." (section Three) "- The high picture quality of HDV1080i, the high powered 20 time zoom lens, mass approximately 2330g * loading the high-level interface which answers the use of the professional onto the lightweight compact. Mobility is shown in use at collection of data and the location site and the like where the space is limited." "- It is superior in weight balance by enclosing the battery to the body, it supports stock photographing which is stabilized." "- Loading 2.8 type liquid crystal monitors. It corresponds to various scenes such as high angle and low angle photographing. * Mass of 1 XH G1 photographing time (hood and BP-950G, the tape and the memory card it includes)" Thats all I have done for now... Sorry for the bad translation! Its just what the computer did. EDIT: Sorry I did not read the full thread! I now see that Mark Utley said; "These cameras are now on Canon's USA site. http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...categoryid=172." Now I know that it has already ben done. Sorry for your time. Gabriel.

July 26th, 2006, 11:05 AM	#80
Gabriel Yeager Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington, NorthWest USA Posts: 788	So does this mean that the GL1/GL2 will drop in price, along with the XL H1?

July 26th, 2006, 11:09 AM	#82
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Lorinda: it has a 20X zoom range going from "pretty darn wide" to "more than you'll usually need telephoto". Better than anything else in its class as far as I can tell.

July 26th, 2006, 11:24 AM	#87
Gabriel Yeager Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington, NorthWest USA Posts: 788	Does anyone know how much these baby's are going to cost? Thanks! Gabriel.

July 26th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#88
James Klatt Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland OR Posts: 132	How about the weight of these puppies? I am curious to see if I'd be able to use my merlin steadicam.

July 26th, 2006, 11:39 AM	#90
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Maybe its already fitted with a neon glow in that circular side bit thingy.