JVC finally announces HD Everio!!!

Adam Palomer · January 23rd, 2007, 06:00 PM

I wonder if this price is a typo, or merely a sign of things to come.

http://www.zoommania.com/gzhd7.html

Lee Wilson · January 23rd, 2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Palomer

I wonder if this price is a typo, or merely a sign of things to come.

http://www.zoommania.com/gzhd7.html

WOW !

If it is a mistake they have made it several times through the page, but that is dirt cheap !!???

Jason Burkhimer · January 23rd, 2007, 06:11 PM

Its not so much as a "misprint" as it is "bull----" For one reason, this looks like a grey-market outfit. Secondly, it doesnt list anything along the lines of real specs. Wait till JVC makes a concrete announcement, and stick with reputable online shops.

-burk

Paulo Teixeira · January 23rd, 2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Palomer

http://www.zoommania.com/gzhd7.html

Excuse my English but 32X, my behind. Also the camcorder has 60 gigs not 30.

Steve Nunez · January 23rd, 2007, 07:55 PM

32X would be killer............but we all know this ad is false.

Adam Gold · January 23rd, 2007, 08:11 PM

According to Reseller Ratings, this is a well-known bait and switch outfit. You'll never get this camera from them (or anyone else) at this price.

Adam Palomer · January 23rd, 2007, 11:08 PM

I'm glad I brought this up. Everything you guys mentioned is good to know. I didn't pay much attention to the details, especially not the zoom figures they advertise.

Steve Nunez · January 24th, 2007, 06:17 AM

Adam- these forum guys are sharp and never miss a beat!

Leonard Richardson · January 24th, 2007, 08:06 AM

Hi

Jvc has put a presentation online

http://www.jvc.com/presentations/eve...lid=MPEverioHD

Len

Steve Nunez · January 24th, 2007, 12:41 PM

Excellent find!
Hmmm, it says "The 1920x1080i picture you get at the camera is maintained for recording, with no conversion to degrade the full native resolution."
Leads one to believe it's a full 1920X1080i chip! I sense some misleading advertising here- or were the incorrect specs released- further in the site it says, "That's native 1920x1080i resolution that is maintained all the way from the lens and CCD, to MPEG2 Transport Stream video with MPEG 1 Layer 2 audio, to output via HDMI, i.LINK or USB2.0. So the Full HD quality you get at the camera is exactly what you get in your recordings, with no conversion or loss of resolution."

Not sure what the final specs are- but that text is mighty impressive!!
One thing is for sure, it outputs interlaced video- I see no mention of a progressive mode or output.
Also interesting how it outputs via HDMI or Firewire or USB 2.0.

Paulo Teixeira · January 24th, 2007, 05:02 PM

That website just made a mistake because they have the JVC GZ-MG37 listed for 452 dollars as well. The specs are accurate for that camcorder. It would have been amazing if JVC put a 32X zoom in the HD model but with a FUJINON lens, the price would have been a steal for 1800 dollars and JVC would have had no problem selling this camcorder at 2500 dollars with that zoom range.

Chris Sinista · January 24th, 2007, 07:25 PM

the sensor is what i dont like about it

Patrick Benda · January 31st, 2007, 04:12 PM

Well !?!
The wait and the silence are killing me. Now canon arrives with the HV20 and 24p, boy the lights might stay on late at JVC HQ.

Guy Barwood · January 31st, 2007, 04:53 PM

It's all to late to change the sensors now. Although it has three they are tiny and quite low resolution.

The alternative is where Canon have gone. Large (for camera size) single high resolution 1/2.7" CMOS sensor (a sensor size larger than any other HD camera under XDCAM HD). Canon have the advantage of quite a lot of experience in CMOS sensor design stemming from their Digital SLR range where they make their own sensors too.

A 1/5" 16:9 sensor has only 36% the surface area of a 1/3" sensor, and only 64% of a 1/4".

3CCD badges might trick the consumer but not the semi-pro who will consider all sensor technicalities. Fortunately this camera is probably aimed squarely at consumers. I really pray JVC have something between this and the HD100 for NAB. Sony have 4-5 consumer HD cameras and 3 pro camcorders and 2 pro ENG cameras (HD XDCAM) now. JVC has 1 consumer, NO pro camcorders and 3 variants of one design in the Pro ENG format.

The attractive thing with this JVC is not the sensors (which are more of a worry) it is the HDD recording JVC started with Everio. I wonder when they will migrate this to SSD instead.

Steve Nunez · January 31st, 2007, 05:19 PM

The wait is definitely killng me as well.
Too bad Canon didn't employ a hard drive in the HV20- would have been absolutely killer!!!!

January 23rd, 2007, 07:55 PM	#80
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	32X would be killer............but we all know this ad is false. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

January 24th, 2007, 06:17 AM	#83
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Adam- these forum guys are sharp and never miss a beat! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

January 24th, 2007, 12:41 PM	#85
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Excellent find! Hmmm, it says "The 1920x1080i picture you get at the camera is maintained for recording, with no conversion to degrade the full native resolution." Leads one to believe it's a full 1920X1080i chip! I sense some misleading advertising here- or were the incorrect specs released- further in the site it says, "That's native 1920x1080i resolution that is maintained all the way from the lens and CCD, to MPEG2 Transport Stream video with MPEG 1 Layer 2 audio, to output via HDMI, i.LINK or USB2.0. So the Full HD quality you get at the camera is exactly what you get in your recordings, with no conversion or loss of resolution." Not sure what the final specs are- but that text is mighty impressive!! One thing is for sure, it outputs interlaced video- I see no mention of a progressive mode or output. Also interesting how it outputs via HDMI or Firewire or USB 2.0. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

January 24th, 2007, 05:02 PM	#86
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	That website just made a mistake because they have the JVC GZ-MG37 listed for 452 dollars as well. The specs are accurate for that camcorder. It would have been amazing if JVC put a 32X zoom in the HD model but with a FUJINON lens, the price would have been a steal for 1800 dollars and JVC would have had no problem selling this camcorder at 2500 dollars with that zoom range. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

January 31st, 2007, 05:19 PM	#90
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	The wait is definitely killng me as well. Too bad Canon didn't employ a hard drive in the HV20- would have been absolutely killer!!!! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

January 23rd, 2007, 06:00 PM	#76
Adam Palomer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Summit, NJ Posts: 169	I wonder if this price is a typo, or merely a sign of things to come. http://www.zoommania.com/gzhd7.html

January 23rd, 2007, 06:11 PM	#78
Jason Burkhimer Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 220	Its not so much as a "misprint" as it is "bull----" For one reason, this looks like a grey-market outfit. Secondly, it doesnt list anything along the lines of real specs. Wait till JVC makes a concrete announcement, and stick with reputable online shops. -burk

January 23rd, 2007, 08:11 PM	#81
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	According to Reseller Ratings, this is a well-known bait and switch outfit. You'll never get this camera from them (or anyone else) at this price.

January 23rd, 2007, 11:08 PM	#82
Adam Palomer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Summit, NJ Posts: 169	I'm glad I brought this up. Everything you guys mentioned is good to know. I didn't pay much attention to the details, especially not the zoom figures they advertise.

January 24th, 2007, 08:06 AM	#84
Leonard Richardson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 37	Hi Jvc has put a presentation online http://www.jvc.com/presentations/eve...lid=MPEverioHD Len

January 24th, 2007, 07:25 PM	#87
Chris Sinista Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pasadena CA Posts: 59	the sensor is what i dont like about it

January 31st, 2007, 04:12 PM	#88
Patrick Benda New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Myersville MD Posts: 14	Well !?! The wait and the silence are killing me. Now canon arrives with the HV20 and 24p, boy the lights might stay on late at JVC HQ.

January 31st, 2007, 04:53 PM	#89
Guy Barwood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 423	It's all to late to change the sensors now. Although it has three they are tiny and quite low resolution. The alternative is where Canon have gone. Large (for camera size) single high resolution 1/2.7" CMOS sensor (a sensor size larger than any other HD camera under XDCAM HD). Canon have the advantage of quite a lot of experience in CMOS sensor design stemming from their Digital SLR range where they make their own sensors too. A 1/5" 16:9 sensor has only 36% the surface area of a 1/3" sensor, and only 64% of a 1/4". 3CCD badges might trick the consumer but not the semi-pro who will consider all sensor technicalities. Fortunately this camera is probably aimed squarely at consumers. I really pray JVC have something between this and the HD100 for NAB. Sony have 4-5 consumer HD cameras and 3 pro camcorders and 2 pro ENG cameras (HD XDCAM) now. JVC has 1 consumer, NO pro camcorders and 3 variants of one design in the Pro ENG format. The attractive thing with this JVC is not the sensors (which are more of a worry) it is the HDD recording JVC started with Everio. I wonder when they will migrate this to SSD instead.