UPDATED - DVX100AP Shipment halt is not true just a rumor

Tavis Shaver · February 14th, 2004, 02:50 PM

to link yo go like this [*url*]http://www.whatever.com[/url*]

just remove the asterisks.

Kevin Peer · February 14th, 2004, 03:55 PM

Thanks for putting the sample up, Tavis. My camera is MUCH noiser especially in the reds. I'm glad you have a better functioning camera! Since these cameras are mass produced I could have simply gotten a unit with a more lemony quality to it.

I got an email back from a tech person at Panasonic today who says the 'quality control' issue is not related to image noise, but so far noone at Pana has been forthcoming on just what the issue is. Obviously something major is up, if all unsold units are being sent back to the mother ship. I'll post more info if and when I receive it.

Tavis Shaver · February 14th, 2004, 04:56 PM

Don't thank me, i just linked it, it's Stefan's clip

Charley Manske · February 14th, 2004, 05:42 PM

Thanks, Stefan! That's a good test, though it would be just a bit easier to judge the noise if you used a tripod :)
Anyway, my camera definitely has more noise than that shown in the clip.
This is confusing though, since the 2-pop forum deleted similar messages claiming that it was all a rumor and Panasonic denied there were problems.
http://www.uemforums.com/2pop/ubbthr...=5&o=7&fpart=1

Bryan Roberts · February 14th, 2004, 06:03 PM

So maybe it's with a sound issue. I just captured a sound clip that I think is distorted, can you guys hear anything weird in it?...... only kidding ;) . Strange about the 2-pop forums, maybe it's all a hoax and because we're prosumers trying to nitpick our $3k cameras, we tricked ourselves into believing the "problem", or maybe there is actually one.

Thanks for the info so far guys, I'm interested to see what the issue is to cause a hault and recall of 100a's if that's true....

On another note, if you want to have a link "clickeable" you can also post it as an image file with UBB code. Ex:

[*img*]http://fakeimagesite.com/image.mov[*/img*]

Ofcourse omitting the asterisks and don't forget the http:// !

Stephen van Vuuren · February 14th, 2004, 07:15 PM

I sent Noah a message to get information about what he heard from Panasonic.

Stephen van Vuuren · February 14th, 2004, 07:35 PM

Noah spoke to directly to Jan Crittenden who confirmed there is no halt in DVX100A shipments to dealers and that the rumor is completely untrue. A similar rumor was once perpetrated on 2-pop when the original DVX100 came out.

So until further notice, that's the official word. Unless you get update official Pansonic information, consider it without basis in fact.

Ken Tanaka · February 14th, 2004, 07:37 PM

Knowing Jan, as I do, I would completely trust her guidance. The DVX100A is outside of the line she works with but she is deeply in-the-know about the entire Panasonic Broadcast line.

Rodger Marjama · February 14th, 2004, 08:44 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Tanaka : Knowing Jan, as I do, I would completely trust her guidance. The DVX100A is outside of the line she works with but she is deeply in-the-know about the entire Panasonic Broadcast line. -->>>

Afraid she wears that hat too now. Got an email reply from her on a different matter a couple of days ago and her words were "I am now the product manager for the DVX100A".

So, guess she might have just an inkling anyway ;>)

-Rodger

Ken Tanaka · February 14th, 2004, 10:35 PM

Well good for her! I guess Stuart English, the former line manager for the 100's, has moved into other areas.

Kevin Peer · February 14th, 2004, 11:13 PM

This is getting very strange..

All I can say is that when I spoke with Ted Castillo who is supposedly the west coast tech rep for Panasonic yesterday, he said there was indeed a quality control issue with the DVX100A but that he had not been told yet what it was. As for the dealer that I got the camera from who originally told me about the freeze on shipments and having to send back unsold units, I've asked him for more info.

Someone's not being straight, but I don't know who.

Chris Hurd · February 15th, 2004, 12:26 AM

Actually I believe Stuart English is the Marketing V.P. for Panasonic Broadcast -- not a product manager. Jan is replacing somebody else.

Bryan Roberts · February 15th, 2004, 01:08 AM

This is turning into a muddled soap opera of twists and turns. You gotta respect the drama that only internet buzz can bring whether fact or rumor.

Chris Hurd · February 15th, 2004, 01:15 AM

You're right about the drama, Bryan -- but around here, we try hard to separate out the rumors and concentrate on the facts. Thanks,

Rodger Marjama · February 15th, 2004, 10:21 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : Actually I believe Stuart English is the Marketing V.P. for Panasonic Broadcast -- not a product manager. Jan is replacing somebody else. -->>>

Your right Stuart English is (or was) the Marketing V.P. at Panasonic Broadcast, but I think (as I recall anyway) he was largely if not totally responsible for overseeing the new product innovation this DVX100 was forging.

In any case I appreciate both of these people. I do not believe that there is any company quite like Panasonic Broadcast when it comes to the nearly direct involvement with their customers (from the upper echelon no less) as we've see from Jan and Stuart.

-Rodger

February 14th, 2004, 03:55 PM	#32
Kevin Peer New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lost Coast, California Posts: 14	Thanks for putting the sample up, Tavis. My camera is MUCH noiser especially in the reds. I'm glad you have a better functioning camera! Since these cameras are mass produced I could have simply gotten a unit with a more lemony quality to it. I got an email back from a tech person at Panasonic today who says the 'quality control' issue is not related to image noise, but so far noone at Pana has been forthcoming on just what the issue is. Obviously something major is up, if all unsold units are being sent back to the mother ship. I'll post more info if and when I receive it. __________________ Dedicated to the life affirming use of film and video to portray humankind's wisdom traditions, indigenous cultures, and evolving relationship with Earth.

February 14th, 2004, 05:42 PM	#34
Charley Manske Tourist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Watsonville, CA Posts: 2	Thanks, Stefan! That's a good test, though it would be just a bit easier to judge the noise if you used a tripod :) Anyway, my camera definitely has more noise than that shown in the clip. This is confusing though, since the 2-pop forum deleted similar messages claiming that it was all a rumor and Panasonic denied there were problems. http://www.uemforums.com/2pop/ubbthr...=5&o=7&fpart=1 __________________ Charley Manske "Those who don't evolve will go extinct"

February 14th, 2004, 07:15 PM	#36
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	I sent Noah a message to get information about what he heard from Panasonic. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

February 14th, 2004, 07:35 PM	#37
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Noah spoke to directly to Jan Crittenden who confirmed there is no halt in DVX100A shipments to dealers and that the rumor is completely untrue. A similar rumor was once perpetrated on 2-pop when the original DVX100 came out. So until further notice, that's the official word. Unless you get update official Pansonic information, consider it without basis in fact. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

February 14th, 2004, 07:37 PM	#38
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Knowing Jan, as I do, I would completely trust her guidance. The DVX100A is outside of the line she works with but she is deeply in-the-know about the entire Panasonic Broadcast line. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 14th, 2004, 02:50 PM	#31
Tavis Shaver Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC. Canada Posts: 209	to link yo go like this [url]http://www.whatever.com[/url*] just remove the asterisks.

February 14th, 2004, 04:56 PM	#33
Tavis Shaver Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC. Canada Posts: 209	Don't thank me, i just linked it, it's Stefan's clip

February 14th, 2004, 06:03 PM	#35
Bryan Roberts Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 436	So maybe it's with a sound issue. I just captured a sound clip that I think is distorted, can you guys hear anything weird in it?...... only kidding ;) . Strange about the 2-pop forums, maybe it's all a hoax and because we're prosumers trying to nitpick our $3k cameras, we tricked ourselves into believing the "problem", or maybe there is actually one. Thanks for the info so far guys, I'm interested to see what the issue is to cause a hault and recall of 100a's if that's true.... On another note, if you want to have a link "clickeable" you can also post it as an image file with UBB code. Ex: [img]http://fakeimagesite.com/image.mov[/img] Ofcourse omitting the asterisks and don't forget the http:// !

February 14th, 2004, 08:44 PM	#39
Rodger Marjama Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 101	<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Tanaka : Knowing Jan, as I do, I would completely trust her guidance. The DVX100A is outside of the line she works with but she is deeply in-the-know about the entire Panasonic Broadcast line. -->>> Afraid she wears that hat too now. Got an email reply from her on a different matter a couple of days ago and her words were "I am now the product manager for the DVX100A". So, guess she might have just an inkling anyway ;>) -Rodger __________________ Rodger Marjama www.speedwing.net

February 14th, 2004, 10:35 PM	#40
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Well good for her! I guess Stuart English, the former line manager for the 100's, has moved into other areas. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 14th, 2004, 11:13 PM	#41
Kevin Peer New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lost Coast, California Posts: 14	This is getting very strange.. All I can say is that when I spoke with Ted Castillo who is supposedly the west coast tech rep for Panasonic yesterday, he said there was indeed a quality control issue with the DVX100A but that he had not been told yet what it was. As for the dealer that I got the camera from who originally told me about the freeze on shipments and having to send back unsold units, I've asked him for more info. Someone's not being straight, but I don't know who. __________________ Dedicated to the life affirming use of film and video to portray humankind's wisdom traditions, indigenous cultures, and evolving relationship with Earth.

February 15th, 2004, 12:26 AM	#42
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Actually I believe Stuart English is the Marketing V.P. for Panasonic Broadcast -- not a product manager. Jan is replacing somebody else. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 15th, 2004, 01:08 AM	#43
Bryan Roberts Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 436	This is turning into a muddled soap opera of twists and turns. You gotta respect the drama that only internet buzz can bring whether fact or rumor.

February 15th, 2004, 01:15 AM	#44
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	You're right about the drama, Bryan -- but around here, we try hard to separate out the rumors and concentrate on the facts. Thanks, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 15th, 2004, 10:21 AM	#45
Rodger Marjama Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 101	<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : Actually I believe Stuart English is the Marketing V.P. for Panasonic Broadcast -- not a product manager. Jan is replacing somebody else. -->>> Your right Stuart English is (or was) the Marketing V.P. at Panasonic Broadcast, but I think (as I recall anyway) he was largely if not totally responsible for overseeing the new product innovation this DVX100 was forging. In any case I appreciate both of these people. I do not believe that there is any company quite like Panasonic Broadcast when it comes to the nearly direct involvement with their customers (from the upper echelon no less) as we've see from Jan and Stuart. -Rodger __________________ Rodger Marjama www.speedwing.net