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Here is the answer to audio, right at the start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXVB...ature=youtu.be

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Ah, good find Simon.

You have been on the hunt. So when did they say you take delivery?

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I think March mate at this stage, I'm in no hurry as I have a stack of editing to complete and I'm really looking forward to this new camera, could be the look I'm after and have been chasing for a long time.

It's a new system completely for me, glass, batteries etc... so not a cheap exercise but one I'm willing to go with based on information and images I have seen on the net and also a ton of research on Panasonic and also going back through the GH4 and checking that out. Gh4 owners seem pretty happy.

I've been with Sony for ever and was disappointed in the a6500 release (I was going to grab one) and feel that Panasonic have just ticked all the boxes for what I need.

Cheers

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It's good to know too that once the XLR pod is plugged in the camera's built-in analog-to-digital converter, and hopefully the preamp as well, that receives the input via the camera's 3.5mm jack can be totally bypassed to get a cleaner signal no matter how it is recorded, 48kHz, 16 bit or 96kHz, 24 bit.

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I downloaded these 4K GH5 Vlog clips from Neumann films Edited with Sony Vegas pro14 and graded them with Magic Bullet film




download link below
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m5rrou...H5_Footage.zip

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Man I can't wait for the camera, out of all the gear I've ever purchased this one feels good as a pre purchase.
There is heaps of content on line now and more dripping out everyday. Do what Brian has and download the clips, colour grade and have a look, I have and with great results in Premier Pro.

Also there is a FB page which I find a great resource.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/pansonicgh5/

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The clips graded great too using only FCPX. No Resolve, no fancy plugins and using only my imagination with no LUT. It should be one hell of a video camera.

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Why is the motion signature all messed up on these clips, they play back very stuttery on my iMac and I have fiber optic and the clips load up quickly but look all messed up?

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Mate got a gh5 loaner from panny for a couple days. I did lighting for a short he used it on and played with it a bit. The point to point focus worked great... just like the old fx1 days. Bummer was that it didn't like either of my speed boosters if i used a zoom lens. It must require some kind of firmware update. Overall... a nice little upgrade. Did a couple of face tracking autofocus moves with talent walking up to the camera and it nailed it.

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What about "Continuous Autofocus", how does it works?

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I wouldn't expect to much, maybe a minor improvement compared to the gh4, if it was a big improvement they would have shown it's capabilities but from what I have seen so far it's not that impressive.

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Panasonic has made it clear the cameras that were out there for testing were very early betas and that the CAF would improve significantly upon final release.

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we"ll believe it when we see it.

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The canon 80d has got the best i have ever seen, unbelievable

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Unbelievable - nah. However definitely not infallible as various videos from it have attested to, including I think one of yours when you made similar boasts. I'd take good focus peaking over a more reliable auto focus any day. Now in an ideal World, I'd like both, but it's not an ideal World.

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Hey mate my opinion canon 70d 80d kills gh4 g7 g80 hands down without doubt

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I agree the 70/80d excels at auto focus. I filmed a short with a 70d and my friend was using 5d fully rigged out with a Zacatto viewfinder and follow focus. My shots were tack sharp while many of his were soft. Point being focus ability is often over looked because it can't be quantified as resolution, bitrate, sensor size, etc. Its not to say the GH4 doesn't have its own set of advantages 4k, run time, form factor... While I can't say how much better it is over the GH4 there is no denying Canon dual pixel tech is the standard that all others are measured against.

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I've loved the focusing on the 70D for over 4 years now, but unless Canon is going to offer me the other features at a price point below $3500, I'm out.

Along with dual IS, full 4K, etc, I'm really intrigued by the photo/video mode thing where it'll shoot in 6K 24fps, and you can select 18 MP stills out of it. From what little I see, its a photo mode, but is basically shooting a 6K video.

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While it may not be up to Canon 80D standards, it looks like even with the beta firmware, it is definitely better than the GH4 autofocus.

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Canon came out with that weird XC10 and XC15 line to fill that void. The fixed consumer lens was obviously put there for a reason. They don't want to offer dslr 4k at a price point that would undermine the c100 and c300.

Someone was complaining about Sony holding back features to protect the higher lines but they all do it. Just happens in this case that Panasonic doesn't have higher end cinema line to protect.

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So they all do it, that is they all withhold features to protect higher priced gear. Then along comes Panasonic with the GH5 offering features up to and surpassing hugely more expensive gear from Sony and Canon. And right here we have Robert Benda saying unless Canon comes to the party he's 'out'. How many professions and prosumers will do likewise? What's the point of protecting one's higher end gear when a competitor can do what Panasonic is doing with the GH5? How many FS7 and C300/100 cam sales will be lost to the GH5? Isn't the approach allegedly taken by Sony and Canon to 'protect their higher end gear' a 'shoot yourself in the foot' business case? Why in this day and age bearing in mind the big dollars spent by both outfits on market research would Sony and/or Canon do that? Do they really believe brand loyalty will save the day for them and that the number of people that will 'switch' will be minimal?

Bottom line question: are they just protecting higher end gear, is it really that simple? I doubt it. There must be more going on behind the scenes than we can even imagine.

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Mine is a little different. :) I find the 70d and 80d to be fine in close up shots but sometimes terrible in wide, highly detailed shots. It feels less full HD to me in resolution. For colour and auto focus, they have the edge - superior to other brands all the way. For features useful to a Videographer, Canon DSLR trails very far behind. Given the GH5 will be enjoying 50p 4K and 10 BIT 4:2:2, sitting alongside 5 axis IS, log profiles, focus peaking, highlights, waveform monitor and vector scope, the 80d line has a very long journey to match Panasonic output. My opinion of course.

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My 15 year old son recently said his gh4 completely destroys the 70 or 80d, I told him to give the camera a bit more credit, his mother at least loves her 80d because she uses it to cover his soccer practices and since all other mothers there seem to have one as well it can't be that bad though I have to say her films look like crap but at least they are in focus.

All joking aside, Panasonic is here to rule the world, get used to it.

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Maybe your right Noa, but i had the g7 g6 gh4, held and used the g80 in a camera shop and filmed for a hour, not of them gets near the 70d or 80d. Sent the sony ax100 back as again at a latest wedding it did not cut the mustard and colors where awful. 70d with a flat neutral base line is excellent as with the touch screen and everything else that goes with it. Granted no 4k but in 10 years trading i very rarely burn a bluray disc for the client, no one seems to have a bluray player so god knows how they will play 4k.

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It's clear to us now you dislike anything but Canon but it makes no sense in constantly repeating it in a thread that is about the gh5.

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I always hear the whole "Canon colors" thing and I get part of that. Yes, Canon does color well right out of the camera. But how often do you give raw files right out of the camera to people that dont know how to color grade? Sure, Sony and Panasonic might need a little tweaking to get it to look like a Canon and that is something very easy to do in post. I always get paid to shoot, edit and deliver. So, I'm going to color grade everything I do anyway, no matter what cameras I'm shooting with.

Canon doesn't have a magic color spectrum that it captures that Sony and Panny don't. For 8bit, everybody is doing 0-255 in in RGB. It's all the same, you just need to tune it the way you want in post.

Any color that Canon can capture in a scene, Panny and Sony will capture it too. You can certainly match any "Canon look" with any Sony or Panny camera if you actually put a small bit of effort in post.

I guess the only exception is if you are giving allot of files straight from the card to clients that don't know how to color grade the footage they are buying from you. I don't know but maybe allot of Canon guys do that often.

CT

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Problem with the Canon 70D, 80D and all the rest that have dual pixel AF in HD is that even when they nail the focus down to the millimeter the image still looks soft. It normally looks OK for closeups and head shots but once you go wide the detail simply melts away. If you don't believe this you can compare the HD footage in the highest available bit rate mode with HD in 50Mbps XAVC-S mode from either the Sony RX100xx, RX10xx, AX100, A6000, A6300 (the A6500 for some reasons is a bit worse than its cheaper predecessors in HD) or the Panasonic GH3.

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I have noticed this softness when I once used the 70d to film a wide shot of a theatrical performance. I wasn't sure if this was because canon uses less internal sharpening than the other cameras you mentioned. It's not uncommon for consumer targeted camera to do more internal processing since that type of user has no desire to do any grading. Others have pointed out that the smaller higher resolution on a relatively small sensor of the A6500 isn't a benefit under certain circumstances. So what is your explanation of Canon's softness, the bitrate? Btw I don't have an issue with softness in wide shot particular for weddings.

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Doesn't the Canon 70D do a line skip readout of its image sensor? As a we all know, line skipping is a nasty and crude technique to scale down a high megapixel sensor to a 2megapixel 1080 image.

Im soooo glad that Sony dumped line skipping a while ago in favor of its full pixel readout technique today.

CT

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And its clear you dislike anything but panasonic? so it makes no sense repeating this thread about the 80d?

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You are the one that just keeps talking about your 80d in a thread that's about the gh5, others just respond to that. I mean just check the posts you made so far, it's only about the 6d, 70d 80d and how much better you find them then the gh5 or any other panasonic dslr, is constantly repeating the same non relevant thing going to be of any help to potential gh5 buyers?

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Hey know all, i gave my opinion like everyone else. You are the one that does not like anyone saying anything that goes against Panasonic. If i think canon in my opinion is a better choice than Panasonic then i have the right to say so!! Stop poking your nose in every where like a know all.

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Hey mate my opinion GH5 kills 70D, 80D hands down without doubt

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Hey mate, how do you know its not out yet??

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More and more footage is already available online that was shot with the gh5 and it looks so much better then a 6D, 70D or 80D, completely destroys the canon, just my opinion.

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With respect Steve, it was your choice to enter a GH5 thread to rub people's noses in how great Canon's 80d's auto focus is compared to Panasonic. A fact I am more than happy to concede. If you have faced comeback, it is only because your motives for entering this thread seem less like constructive opinion to aid this threads discussion and more a case of personal vendetta.

How many Weddings have you shot with Panasonic gear? I've personally shot loads with a Canon 60d before I gave it up because I found the image lacking when compared to the GH3. The footage I have seen since of the 70d and 80d, including a video you posted, did not impress me except in those close up shots where detail was less pertinent. In short, it showed much of the same issues that led me to sell my 60d for Panasonic. That said, I did miss the 60d's colour reproduction. Something I have to work at very hard with Panasonic. I don't miss it's lack of video related features and poor detail in wide shots. In short, the soft image that suggests a 720p image up scaled to 1080p rather than true HD. The 70d and 80d betrays the same limitations.

Still it works for you. It seems your clients don't even flavour bluray or USB delivery, which accounts for 50% of my Wedding delivery. I have on average 5 clients a year asking for 4K videos. Still such clients will hardly trouble you, who can't even deliver a true HD image with your choice of cameras. As long as you have happy clients, it matters little which of us is right or wrong. The fact you prefer your gear and I mine, is an argument neither of us can win or lose.

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And of course i respect all views and thanks Steve for watching my work very closely (how did you know i used the 70d or 80d on that video as i also have the C100 and also the 5diii ? )
I have been filming weddings for 11 years with many many satisfied clients and still booking highly (so something is right)
I have used many camcorders and DSLRs and i am certainly not rubbing any noses into how good the 80d or 70d auto focus is, you only have to go on you tube to see how many people have chosen the 70d and 80d over the gh3 and gh4...
If you must know i filmed a couple weddings with the gh4 and g7 and g6 and sent them running because of there miss failings on the day.
Correctly which you make the most sense, is that my work is very different from yours where i held back with one of your videos previously that did not impress me neither.
So for now lets leave it like this, i am fully booked for 2017 and nearly for 2018, i use 5d 3s, c100, 70/80ds and yes its all about the story telling, the wedding film the way its told. the framing the correct balance and finished product, so go ahead use your own cameras and i mine.

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And you are entitled to your opinion and i have just watched on you tube 6d videos and 80d videos that look absolutely stunning and in my eyes and completely rubbish the fact that the gh5 will take over. Oh in my opinion of course!!

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I have seen 6d videos and 80d on youtube as well but the GH5 absolutely crushes them, no comparison whatsoever. On youtube many say they will leave the 80d for the GH5.

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Thats cool!! Good luck mate