Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Milt Lee · May 22nd, 2005, 04:27 PM

Thanks for the advice!! I really appreciate it. I had a sense that an AVI file would be best, but I didn't really know the mechanics of it. Now I do!!!

Thanks again,
Milt

Milt Lee · May 22nd, 2005, 04:50 PM

[QUOTE= find a place that has either beta or digibeta machines hooked up to their NLE .. if they use avid then you would go to avids site and download their CODEC (meridian ?) if they use FCP or other NLE with decklink then go to decklink and download their blackmagic codec ... [/QUOTE]

Hmm...so I'm thinking further about this and wondering - Since I use Vegas 6.0 and I don't see either of these CODEC's in the rendering options - my next question is - will VEGAS render in these other codecs and what's the process for inporting these? Is there someplace that I need to save the codec once I download it?

thanks again,
Milt

Sam Houchins II · May 22nd, 2005, 08:03 PM

I'm struggling to get into overlays, parent / child tracks, and masks. I can't get it yet... the tracks' hierarchy of what affects what in what way, and part of my problem is not understanding the lingo.
I guess my 1st question is ,"What's a 'garbage mask'?"
Thanks, I'm afraid more will follow.
I'm very excited about the potential these effects have. I'm still using Vegas 4.0e, as it is obviously way smarter than I am.

Glenn Chan · May 22nd, 2005, 08:30 PM

In Vegas, you can get the same effect as a garbage mask by using:
Cookie cutter OR
bezier masks (introduced in V5)

You can find information about these in the manual.

Darrin McMillan · May 22nd, 2005, 09:20 PM

Edward you are a godsend..Thanks again.

Nicolas Richard · May 23rd, 2005, 07:59 PM

Hello,

I'm using vegas 6.0

A cut and paste parts of a big 1,5 GIG MPG video into a little 127 MB MPG Video...

My voices are not syncronized my with my video and I dont know why...

Can someone help me?
Thank you in advance

PS: In my project I have 2 video tracks ans 4 audio tracks

Edward Troxel · May 23rd, 2005, 08:21 PM

From your description, it will be hard to answer. For example, was the original file in sync? Also, how were the pieces cut an pasted? Can you simply move the audio so that it IS back in sync?

Also, you do realize that MPEG is NOT a good editing format?

David Mintzer · May 23rd, 2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milt Lee

Hmm...so I'm thinking further about this and wondering - Since I use Vegas 6.0 and I don't see either of these CODEC's in the rendering options - my next question is - will VEGAS render in these other codecs and what's the process for inporting these? Is there someplace that I need to save the codec once I download it?

thanks again,
Milt

Milt, I'm currently working on a prison related documentary ( I assumed that your title says that you just finished one--but I could be assuming) Would love to trade war stories with you and pick your brain.

Don Donatello · May 23rd, 2005, 11:53 PM

You download the codec ..they will tell you which folder to install them..

for win2K/XP & black magic ... C\winNT\system32\quicktime

once you install it then it will show up when you choose to render QT - then you have to go into custom/advanced , Video , video format then choose from among 8-20 different QT codec's = in this case look for black magic = there will be a 10bit and 8 bit ... 8bit if betaSP , 10bit digibeta ..

i use a place that uses FCP with decklink ... i'm on PC with Vegas .. i render out of vegas as QT using the Black Magic 10bit codec 720x486 ... i deliver a 1394 drive ( formatted NTFS) , most of the time i keep files to approx 40gigs each ..so i may deliver 2-4 files ..named 1,2,3,4 so they make no mistake when they drop them into FCP ... they then feed the MAC my files from their PC over their gigabyte network to the mac drives ( they do not charge for this) ... then they transfer to Digibeta using FCP/decklink card ( they charge for this) ...

Ian Stark · May 24th, 2005, 02:47 AM

Thanks John,

Uaing SWISHmax, is it possible to sync a beep or click to each stroke?

I've actually finished the project I needed this for but I would love to find a simpler method to the way I was doing it!

Ian . . .

Milt Lee · May 24th, 2005, 09:25 AM

Good Information. I can do that. So for the final question - if you don't mind sharing - what's the name of the house that does this?

Thanks
Milt Lee

Don Meers · May 24th, 2005, 12:20 PM

Where can I learn more about color correcting in Vegas5 using filters,histograms etc?
thanks

Edward Troxel · May 24th, 2005, 01:00 PM

You could start here:

http://www.bb-video.net/

Jeremy Rank · May 24th, 2005, 01:15 PM

Vegas automatically moves all video tracks with it's audio anywhere I want it without having to sync it back up. I tried dropping two same audio tracks into different tracks, but it won't line them up...am I missing something? I thought I could just drop in two tracks from a wedding and Vegas6 would help me sync the A and B cams up, but it doesn't do that

Edward Troxel · May 24th, 2005, 01:37 PM

The A/V Sync will help keep the audio and video in ONE AVI file in sync and will give you an indication when they are out of sync. In fact, it will work for multiple grouped events as well.

It is not designed to sync two or more separate cameras. For that purpose, I use the Sync tool in Excalibur which will let you pick a sync point in multiple cameras and will quickly align on that point. Then you can use the multi-cam tools to easily edit that project.

May 22nd, 2005, 04:27 PM	#1636
Milt Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cass Lake MN Posts: 221	Thanks for the advice!! I really appreciate it. I had a sense that an AVI file would be best, but I didn't really know the mechanics of it. Now I do!!! Thanks again, Milt __________________ Professional website - http://manykites.com Personal - http://mrdogsblog.com

May 22nd, 2005, 04:50 PM	#1637
Milt Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cass Lake MN Posts: 221	[QUOTE= find a place that has either beta or digibeta machines hooked up to their NLE .. if they use avid then you would go to avids site and download their CODEC (meridian ?) if they use FCP or other NLE with decklink then go to decklink and download their blackmagic codec ... [/QUOTE] Hmm...so I'm thinking further about this and wondering - Since I use Vegas 6.0 and I don't see either of these CODEC's in the rendering options - my next question is - will VEGAS render in these other codecs and what's the process for inporting these? Is there someplace that I need to save the codec once I download it? thanks again, Milt __________________ Professional website - http://manykites.com Personal - http://mrdogsblog.com

May 22nd, 2005, 08:03 PM	#1638
Sam Houchins II Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 282	Overlays I'm struggling to get into overlays, parent / child tracks, and masks. I can't get it yet... the tracks' hierarchy of what affects what in what way, and part of my problem is not understanding the lingo. I guess my 1st question is ,"What's a 'garbage mask'?" Thanks, I'm afraid more will follow. I'm very excited about the potential these effects have. I'm still using Vegas 4.0e, as it is obviously way smarter than I am.

May 22nd, 2005, 09:20 PM	#1640
Darrin McMillan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 96	Thanks Edward you are a godsend..Thanks again.

May 23rd, 2005, 07:59 PM	#1641
Nicolas Richard Tourist Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3	My audio track is not syncronized with the picture Hello, I'm using vegas 6.0 A cut and paste parts of a big 1,5 GIG MPG video into a little 127 MB MPG Video... My voices are not syncronized my with my video and I dont know why... Can someone help me? Thank you in advance PS: In my project I have 2 video tracks ans 4 audio tracks

May 22nd, 2005, 08:30 PM	#1639
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	In Vegas, you can get the same effect as a garbage mask by using: Cookie cutter OR bezier masks (introduced in V5) You can find information about these in the manual.

May 23rd, 2005, 08:21 PM	#1642
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	From your description, it will be hard to answer. For example, was the original file in sync? Also, how were the pieces cut an pasted? Can you simply move the audio so that it IS back in sync? Also, you do realize that MPEG is NOT a good editing format? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 23rd, 2005, 11:53 PM	#1644
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	You download the codec ..they will tell you which folder to install them.. for win2K/XP & black magic ... C\winNT\system32\quicktime once you install it then it will show up when you choose to render QT - then you have to go into custom/advanced , Video , video format then choose from among 8-20 different QT codec's = in this case look for black magic = there will be a 10bit and 8 bit ... 8bit if betaSP , 10bit digibeta .. i use a place that uses FCP with decklink ... i'm on PC with Vegas .. i render out of vegas as QT using the Black Magic 10bit codec 720x486 ... i deliver a 1394 drive ( formatted NTFS) , most of the time i keep files to approx 40gigs each ..so i may deliver 2-4 files ..named 1,2,3,4 so they make no mistake when they drop them into FCP ... they then feed the MAC my files from their PC over their gigabyte network to the mac drives ( they do not charge for this) ... then they transfer to Digibeta using FCP/decklink card ( they charge for this) ...

May 24th, 2005, 02:47 AM	#1645
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Thanks John, Uaing SWISHmax, is it possible to sync a beep or click to each stroke? I've actually finished the project I needed this for but I would love to find a simpler method to the way I was doing it! Ian . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

May 24th, 2005, 09:25 AM	#1646
Milt Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cass Lake MN Posts: 221	Good Information. I can do that. So for the final question - if you don't mind sharing - what's the name of the house that does this? Thanks Milt Lee __________________ Professional website - http://manykites.com Personal - http://mrdogsblog.com

May 24th, 2005, 12:20 PM	#1647
Don Meers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 63	Wanting to learn more about color correction Where can I learn more about color correcting in Vegas5 using filters,histograms etc? thanks

May 24th, 2005, 01:00 PM	#1648
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You could start here: http://www.bb-video.net/ __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 24th, 2005, 01:15 PM	#1649
Jeremy Rank Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 66	Vegas6 A/V sync not worth much? Vegas automatically moves all video tracks with it's audio anywhere I want it without having to sync it back up. I tried dropping two same audio tracks into different tracks, but it won't line them up...am I missing something? I thought I could just drop in two tracks from a wedding and Vegas6 would help me sync the A and B cams up, but it doesn't do that

May 24th, 2005, 01:37 PM	#1650
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The A/V Sync will help keep the audio and video in ONE AVI file in sync and will give you an indication when they are out of sync. In fact, it will work for multiple grouped events as well. It is not designed to sync two or more separate cameras. For that purpose, I use the Sync tool in Excalibur which will let you pick a sync point in multiple cameras and will quickly align on that point. Then you can use the multi-cam tools to easily edit that project. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters