Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Gary Kleiner · February 24th, 2005, 12:37 AM

You can use any graphic file by browsing or dragging to Button Properties>Graphics>Thumbnail

If you are talking about a frame from the video that the button represents, just change the Start Time.

Gary

Brian Burns · February 24th, 2005, 05:32 AM

Thanks. But I'm not looking at changing the start time so much as I am looking to change the graphic that is represented (but still starting at frame 1)

Peter Jefferson · February 24th, 2005, 06:23 AM

you shoudl also check your temp storage capacity, preview ram settings too (i used to have mine on full and i got stack dump errors bascailly runnign out of memory... )

the longest render ive had though, was for black barred 4:3 footage, runnign colour corrections and colour curves and ive had the longest render be 27 hours.. for 2 hours worth of material..

im only runnign a P4 non HT 2.4, with 1gb ram..

James Darren · February 24th, 2005, 07:13 AM

Hi all,

I've got the trial version of Vegas 5.0 (which is very nice I might add, i think i'll buy a copy) in which I want to do some really basic HDV editing with a FX1 which i'm borrowing this weekend for a test to see if i'll like the camera before i buy it.

Can I edit HDV with the Vegas 5 trial program & what plug ins do i need? Can you download the plug ins as a trial?

Bob Costa · February 24th, 2005, 07:18 AM

Pick some cool music first, and the editing ideas will come.

Brent Marks · February 24th, 2005, 07:55 AM

Why doesn't Vegas just capture it on its own??

thanks

Edward Troxel · February 24th, 2005, 08:21 AM

If you change the timecode where Gary indicated, it WILL change the graphic to what is at that timecode but WILL NOT change where the chapter points to.

Dwight Flynn · February 24th, 2005, 09:07 AM

I think Cineform.com has one for Vegas (Connect HD), but I do not know if it will work for the demo version of Vegas. U can ask David and the folks at Cineform to answer that question. Also, if my memory serves me right Vegas will not natively capture, but it will natively edit HDV content once imported into its media pool(though it is probably slow without the plug-in).

James Darren · February 24th, 2005, 09:18 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Dwight Flynn : Vegas will not natively capture, but it will natively edit HDV content once imported into its media pool(though it is probably slow without the plug-in). -->>>

i'm a bit confused... how do you capture the DV from the FX1 then?

Dwight Flynn · February 24th, 2005, 12:12 PM

I thought the issue was the capture (and edit) of HDV, which I am be wrong about, but I believe Vegas does not capture (but can import if already on the hard drive). Now I know it works this way for the JVC HDV cam, though I am not certain about the FX1, but it may be the same.

Sean M Lee · February 24th, 2005, 01:30 PM

Using Cineform's HDLink, you can digitize, then import into Vegas.

Steve Crisdale · February 24th, 2005, 02:12 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Brent Marks : Why doesn't Vegas just capture it on its own??

thanks -->>>

An excellent question that I've been asking for a while... without any truly valid response.

It's a shame, because such a glaring oversight - considering the perception that Vegas IS also a Sony product, will not help the Vegas cause against any competing NLE that gives FX-1/Z1 users direct capture capabilities.

You can capture directly to Vegas if you set the cam to DV downconvert.... but why when HDV is what people bought the camera for?!!

Sean M Lee · February 24th, 2005, 02:26 PM

I bet more is available after NAB...be patient grasshopper. : )

Steve Crisdale · February 25th, 2005, 01:55 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Sean M Lee : I bet more is available after NAB...be patient grasshopper. : ) -->>>

Oh I can wait.... that's what I've had to do up until now, so a little more isn't going to destroy me :)

It's just a shame that as a Vegas user, I feel compelled to be honest enough when the question is asked "what NLE would you advise for use with the FX-1?", that I have to say "I use Vegas, but you will need to consider a 3rd party codec to capture from the cam".

You know a potential user of what could be the most elegant HDV solution available, may be lost to this one 'Achilles Heel'... And that isn't my loss, if they don't end up using Vegas, but it doesn't make me feel any better either...

Richard Alvarez · February 25th, 2005, 08:28 AM

Steve,

Being the first is nice, being accurate is better. Avid won't have their HDV capture active untill after NAB either. I use Avid, and I can wait. Don't worry about it.

February 24th, 2005, 07:13 AM	#694
James Darren Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 235	HDV in Vegas 5.0 Trial Program Hi all, I've got the trial version of Vegas 5.0 (which is very nice I might add, i think i'll buy a copy) in which I want to do some really basic HDV editing with a FX1 which i'm borrowing this weekend for a test to see if i'll like the camera before i buy it. Can I edit HDV with the Vegas 5 trial program & what plug ins do i need? Can you download the plug ins as a trial?

February 24th, 2005, 08:21 AM	#697
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you change the timecode where Gary indicated, it WILL change the graphic to what is at that timecode but WILL NOT change where the chapter points to. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 24th, 2005, 12:37 AM	#691
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	You can use any graphic file by browsing or dragging to Button Properties>Graphics>Thumbnail If you are talking about a frame from the video that the button represents, just change the Start Time. Gary

February 24th, 2005, 05:32 AM	#692
Brian Burns Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 56	Thanks. But I'm not looking at changing the start time so much as I am looking to change the graphic that is represented (but still starting at frame 1)

February 24th, 2005, 06:23 AM	#693
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	you shoudl also check your temp storage capacity, preview ram settings too (i used to have mine on full and i got stack dump errors bascailly runnign out of memory... ) the longest render ive had though, was for black barred 4:3 footage, runnign colour corrections and colour curves and ive had the longest render be 27 hours.. for 2 hours worth of material.. im only runnign a P4 non HT 2.4, with 1gb ram..

February 24th, 2005, 07:18 AM	#695
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Pick some cool music first, and the editing ideas will come.

February 24th, 2005, 07:55 AM	#696
Brent Marks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston TX and New Orleans LA Posts: 300	Why doesn't Vegas just capture it on its own?? thanks

February 24th, 2005, 09:07 AM	#698
Dwight Flynn Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 393	I think Cineform.com has one for Vegas (Connect HD), but I do not know if it will work for the demo version of Vegas. U can ask David and the folks at Cineform to answer that question. Also, if my memory serves me right Vegas will not natively capture, but it will natively edit HDV content once imported into its media pool(though it is probably slow without the plug-in).

February 24th, 2005, 09:18 AM	#699
James Darren Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 235	<<<-- Originally posted by Dwight Flynn : Vegas will not natively capture, but it will natively edit HDV content once imported into its media pool(though it is probably slow without the plug-in). -->>> i'm a bit confused... how do you capture the DV from the FX1 then?

February 24th, 2005, 12:12 PM	#700
Dwight Flynn Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 393	I thought the issue was the capture (and edit) of HDV, which I am be wrong about, but I believe Vegas does not capture (but can import if already on the hard drive). Now I know it works this way for the JVC HDV cam, though I am not certain about the FX1, but it may be the same.

February 24th, 2005, 01:30 PM	#701
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	Using Cineform's HDLink, you can digitize, then import into Vegas.

February 24th, 2005, 02:12 PM	#702
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	<<<-- Originally posted by Brent Marks : Why doesn't Vegas just capture it on its own?? thanks -->>> An excellent question that I've been asking for a while... without any truly valid response. It's a shame, because such a glaring oversight - considering the perception that Vegas IS also a Sony product, will not help the Vegas cause against any competing NLE that gives FX-1/Z1 users direct capture capabilities. You can capture directly to Vegas if you set the cam to DV downconvert.... but why when HDV is what people bought the camera for?!!

February 24th, 2005, 02:26 PM	#703
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	I bet more is available after NAB...be patient grasshopper. : )

February 25th, 2005, 01:55 AM	#704
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	<<<-- Originally posted by Sean M Lee : I bet more is available after NAB...be patient grasshopper. : ) -->>> Oh I can wait.... that's what I've had to do up until now, so a little more isn't going to destroy me :) It's just a shame that as a Vegas user, I feel compelled to be honest enough when the question is asked "what NLE would you advise for use with the FX-1?", that I have to say "I use Vegas, but you will need to consider a 3rd party codec to capture from the cam". You know a potential user of what could be the most elegant HDV solution available, may be lost to this one 'Achilles Heel'... And that isn't my loss, if they don't end up using Vegas, but it doesn't make me feel any better either...

February 25th, 2005, 08:28 AM	#705
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Steve, Being the first is nice, being accurate is better. Avid won't have their HDV capture active untill after NAB either. I use Avid, and I can wait. Don't worry about it.