Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Glen Elliott · March 7th, 2005, 08:02 PM

Rendered my first project out using AC-3 tonight. I noticed it has a default "-25db dialog attenuation". I changed it to -10db thinking I could make it louder because I have heard others complain about ac-3 being too quite.

Well it is less than half of the original volume! I spent a great deal of time normalizing and adjusting all my audio levels while editng...it's a bit frusterating that the AC-3 encoder screws it all up!

My question is: 1) Shouldn't a lower attenuation # be louder? (ie changing the default -25 to -10)

and 2) If I change it to -0 would that yield the same volume levels I had in post?

Don Bloom · March 7th, 2005, 08:24 PM

Use a Gaussian Blur and Keyframes to change the "focus"
Don

Plamen Petrov · March 7th, 2005, 08:44 PM

So,that is my question. And what is the tool for making?
Another question:
Film Looks by Magic Bullet are stored as .mbl, but when I create and save a new film look file with MB Editors via Vegas 5, then I can't see it as .mbl file. Why???

Edward Troxel · March 7th, 2005, 09:00 PM

Change the dialog normalization to -31

On the PreProcessing tab, change both the Line mode profile and RF mode profile to NONE.

Edward Troxel · March 7th, 2005, 09:04 PM

A script is simply a text file (which you can make with notepad) that contains the proper code to perform the desired task. Any particular type of thing you are wanting to script? I have a lot of scripting info in my newsletters.

Glen Elliott · March 7th, 2005, 09:12 PM

Thanks Edward- that did the trick!

Glenn Gipson · March 7th, 2005, 09:31 PM

What is a Keyframe?

Edward Troxel · March 7th, 2005, 09:48 PM

A keyframe is a set of values for the effect at any one point in time. So if the effect needs to change over time, you make a keyframe with the first setting, move down the timeline, and then make a second keyframe with the second setting.

I explain keyframes in vol 2 #8 of my newsletter.

John Hudson · March 7th, 2005, 10:46 PM

Edward

Is there any sort of Script that would Increase the Brightness/Contrast ratio while paying attention to the 100 IRE and 0 IRE on the Videscopes?

Basically, an automatic adjsutment but NOT going over on highlights or under onthe 0 IRE?

Peter Jefferson · March 8th, 2005, 03:47 AM

r u refering to a rack focus??

layer 2 tracks,
on the lower track run a slight gausian blur,
on the upper track, run a cookie cutter filter

voila instand rack focus

Peter Jefferson · March 8th, 2005, 03:49 AM

oops.. sorry..
another trick for a tunnel vision kinda effect is to run a radial blur.. this might be a lil more effective when conveying that feeling of blindness..

Glenn Gipson · March 8th, 2005, 05:24 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : oops.. sorry..
another trick for a tunnel vision kinda effect is to run a radial blur.. this might be a lil more effective when conveying that feeling of blindness.. -->>>

Excuse my ignorance about Vegas, I know so little about it, but how do I do this cookie cutter effect? Where is it? Thanks.

Don Bloom · March 8th, 2005, 06:29 AM

cookie cutter is in the VIDEO FX tab, grab it place it on the event you want it on.
Let me suggest that you might want to read some of the Tips and Tricks Newletters written by Edward Troxel. He has Vegas broken down in a way that explains most everything there is to know about it. Print them out and use them as a resource.
Don

Tony Sellars · March 8th, 2005, 07:12 AM

I'm needing to go from 2 mic setup to 3 mics. Does Vegas & Sound Forge support a 3 or 4 mic setup? Never tried. Of course the 2 mic setup is easy. What are, if any problems with this setup?

Plamen Petrov · March 8th, 2005, 07:40 AM

Hello,
How to use Broadcast Colors In Vegas 5 actually? I cannot see a difference when applying it. So? What is the purpose???

March 7th, 2005, 08:02 PM	#811
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Volume problem with AC-3 Rendered my first project out using AC-3 tonight. I noticed it has a default "-25db dialog attenuation". I changed it to -10db thinking I could make it louder because I have heard others complain about ac-3 being too quite. Well it is less than half of the original volume! I spent a great deal of time normalizing and adjusting all my audio levels while editng...it's a bit frusterating that the AC-3 encoder screws it all up! My question is: 1) Shouldn't a lower attenuation # be louder? (ie changing the default -25 to -10) and 2) If I change it to -0 would that yield the same volume levels I had in post?

March 7th, 2005, 08:44 PM	#813
Plamen Petrov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sofia Bulgaria Posts: 147	How to make a Vegas 5 script? So,that is my question. And what is the tool for making? Another question: Film Looks by Magic Bullet are stored as .mbl, but when I create and save a new film look file with MB Editors via Vegas 5, then I can't see it as .mbl file. Why???

March 7th, 2005, 09:00 PM	#814
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Change the dialog normalization to -31 On the PreProcessing tab, change both the Line mode profile and RF mode profile to NONE. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 7th, 2005, 09:04 PM	#815
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	A script is simply a text file (which you can make with notepad) that contains the proper code to perform the desired task. Any particular type of thing you are wanting to script? I have a lot of scripting info in my newsletters. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 7th, 2005, 09:48 PM	#818
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	A keyframe is a set of values for the effect at any one point in time. So if the effect needs to change over time, you make a keyframe with the first setting, move down the timeline, and then make a second keyframe with the second setting. I explain keyframes in vol 2 #8 of my newsletter. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 7th, 2005, 08:24 PM	#812
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Use a Gaussian Blur and Keyframes to change the "focus" Don

March 7th, 2005, 09:12 PM	#816
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Thanks Edward- that did the trick!

March 7th, 2005, 09:31 PM	#817
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	What is a Keyframe?

March 7th, 2005, 10:46 PM	#819
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Edward Is there any sort of Script that would Increase the Brightness/Contrast ratio while paying attention to the 100 IRE and 0 IRE on the Videscopes? Basically, an automatic adjsutment but NOT going over on highlights or under onthe 0 IRE?

March 8th, 2005, 03:47 AM	#820
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	r u refering to a rack focus?? layer 2 tracks, on the lower track run a slight gausian blur, on the upper track, run a cookie cutter filter voila instand rack focus

March 8th, 2005, 03:49 AM	#821
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	oops.. sorry.. another trick for a tunnel vision kinda effect is to run a radial blur.. this might be a lil more effective when conveying that feeling of blindness..

March 8th, 2005, 05:24 AM	#822
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : oops.. sorry.. another trick for a tunnel vision kinda effect is to run a radial blur.. this might be a lil more effective when conveying that feeling of blindness.. -->>> Excuse my ignorance about Vegas, I know so little about it, but how do I do this cookie cutter effect? Where is it? Thanks.

March 8th, 2005, 06:29 AM	#823
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	cookie cutter is in the VIDEO FX tab, grab it place it on the event you want it on. Let me suggest that you might want to read some of the Tips and Tricks Newletters written by Edward Troxel. He has Vegas broken down in a way that explains most everything there is to know about it. Print them out and use them as a resource. Don

March 8th, 2005, 07:12 AM	#824
Tony Sellars Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Morristown, TN Posts: 46	Vegas and 3 mics I'm needing to go from 2 mic setup to 3 mics. Does Vegas & Sound Forge support a 3 or 4 mic setup? Never tried. Of course the 2 mic setup is easy. What are, if any problems with this setup?

March 8th, 2005, 07:40 AM	#825
Plamen Petrov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sofia Bulgaria Posts: 147	Broadcast Colors In Vegas 5 Hello, How to use Broadcast Colors In Vegas 5 actually? I cannot see a difference when applying it. So? What is the purpose???